by Trapper John » Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:26 pm
Avon Barksdale wrote:Stooo wrote:Being gay is not a huge deal to kids these days, it's sort of ignored because it's accepted by that generation. Bullying is not an issue.
But homophobia is still an issue across Society and bullying of kids for their or their parent(s) sexuality does happen.
Clearly things have got much better in recent years though which is great.Selection bias tends to be a real problem (but not the only one when it comes to methodology) with many of the studies which show that no disadvantage occurs when comparing outcomes of children of same sex couples and heterosexual couples. If you live in a socially liberal, wealthy part of a metropolitan city where no one bats an eyelid about your sexuality when it comes to kids then that's to be expected I think. However, those conditions only represent a small and atypical slice of society. The negative consequences a child could face when placed with a same sex couple does need to be factored into a placement and I don't think the situation is equal with that of heterosexual couples. That is unfair but children aren't political pawns to be played.
However, as I said before life is rarely clear cut. Getting kids out of care into loving, stable homes I think outweighs the potential negatives the child may face in later years in most cases and there are more kids in care than there are straight couples willing to adopt I believe.
Have they though? have they really? if so why are we constantly bombarded with calls for equal rights for this or that, why do homosexuals maintain they are the same as the rest of us, then prove they aren't with 'gay pride' gatherings and marches being a prime example of that.
It's the same with racism, for more than 50 years we've had it rammed down our throats, yet it still exists and I'd wager to the same extent it always did. It is all just hidden better because a section of society has forced governments to implement laws which make it illegal to express your true thoughts and feelings in public, that breeds resentment.
The progressive liberal thinkers have much to answer for this in both regards, they have created barriers by their constant preaching that minorities in our society are not being treated equally or with abuse and derision. This in turn makes governments and their agencies treat these minorities more often than not, differently from than the majority, this is what causes the problem, not the colour of skin or the sexual preference of people.
I'll say it again until I'm blue in the face, humankind's basic and natural reaction to being confronted with things that are different to them and the norm is attack to defend themselves from a percieved enemy. No amount of social engineering or laws will ever change that, it's in our genes, everyone's genes.
Time in the guise of acclimatization for want of a better word, would have virtually eliminated racism and homphobia decades ago, people would have accepted, or got used to both as they became part and parcel of ordinary life at a natural pace. Of course, progressive liberal thinkers don't want that natural pace factor, they want instant results and so we have neither half a century or more later.
If you don't want people being treated differently by others, stop treating other people differently to them.
[quote="Avon Barksdale"][quote="Stooo"]Being gay is not a huge deal to kids these days, it's sort of ignored because it's accepted by that generation. Bullying is not an issue.
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But homophobia is still an issue across Society and bullying of kids for their or their parent(s) sexuality does happen.[b] Clearly things have got much better in recent years though which is great.[/b]
Selection bias tends to be a real problem (but not the only one when it comes to methodology) with many of the studies which show that no disadvantage occurs when comparing outcomes of children of same sex couples and heterosexual couples. If you live in a socially liberal, wealthy part of a metropolitan city where no one bats an eyelid about your sexuality when it comes to kids then that's to be expected I think. However, those conditions only represent a small and atypical slice of society. The negative consequences a child could face when placed with a same sex couple does need to be factored into a placement and I don't think the situation is equal with that of heterosexual couples. That is unfair but children aren't political pawns to be played.
However, as I said before life is rarely clear cut. Getting kids out of care into loving, stable homes I think outweighs the potential negatives the child may face in later years in most cases and there are more kids in care than there are straight couples willing to adopt I believe.[/quote]
Have they though? have they really? if so why are we constantly bombarded with calls for equal rights for this or that, why do homosexuals maintain they are the same as the rest of us, then prove they aren't with 'gay pride' gatherings and marches being a prime example of that.
It's the same with racism, for more than 50 years we've had it rammed down our throats, yet it still exists and I'd wager to the same extent it always did. It is all just hidden better because a section of society has forced governments to implement laws which make it illegal to express your true thoughts and feelings in public, that breeds resentment.
The progressive liberal thinkers have much to answer for this in both regards, they have created barriers by their constant preaching that minorities in our society are not being treated equally or with abuse and derision. This in turn makes governments and their agencies treat these minorities more often than not, differently from than the majority, this is what causes the problem, not the colour of skin or the sexual preference of people.
I'll say it again until I'm blue in the face, humankind's basic and natural reaction to being confronted with things that are different to them and the norm is attack to defend themselves from a percieved enemy. No amount of social engineering or laws will ever change that, it's in our genes, everyone's genes.
Time in the guise of acclimatization for want of a better word, would have virtually eliminated racism and homphobia decades ago, people would have accepted, or got used to both as they became part and parcel of ordinary life at a natural pace. Of course, progressive liberal thinkers don't want that natural pace factor, they want instant results and so we have neither half a century or more later.
If you don't want people being treated differently by others, stop treating other people differently to them.