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Re: CHURCH OF ENGLAND FACING HUGE NUMBER OF SEX ABUSE CASES

Post by calitom » Tue Feb 27, 2018 5:04 am

Guest wrote:
calitom wrote:pedophiles go to where access to children is. So every church,synagogue, school, youth sports team,day care,youth music group etc etc etc etc should screen its people thoroughly.
the horror of it -beyond the horror of the crime---is that the vast majority of the people in authority--who are innocent--get tarred with the same brush. So evil not only harms the children and their families but also harms the institutions. Religion haters(not all) glom onto these incodents in order to bash entire churches.And its usually the catholic church because they are the big kid on the block.
Its a nightmare additionally because now anyone accused of pedophilia is considered guilty.


I thought you are a libertarian who is against any regulations.
Why don't you want screening for gun users?


i want screening for gun users..laws are in place.And the main problem is that they arent properly enforced.

Re: CHURCH OF ENGLAND FACING HUGE NUMBER OF SEX ABUSE CASES

Post by Guest » Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:13 pm

calitom wrote:pedophiles go to where access to children is. So every church,synagogue, school, youth sports team,day care,youth music group etc etc etc etc should screen its people thoroughly.
the horror of it -beyond the horror of the crime---is that the vast majority of the people in authority--who are innocent--get tarred with the same brush. So evil not only harms the children and their families but also harms the institutions. Religion haters(not all) glom onto these incodents in order to bash entire churches.And its usually the catholic church because they are the big kid on the block.
Its a nightmare additionally because now anyone accused of pedophilia is considered guilty.


I thought you are a libertarian who is against any regulations.
Why don't you want screening for gun users?

Re: CHURCH OF ENGLAND FACING HUGE NUMBER OF SEX ABUSE CASES

Post by Red Okktober » Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:23 pm

Punk wrote:This has been widespread for many decades. The media will only blame Muslims. When you wake up to the fact that the vast majority of child abuse cases are by White British you might stop blaming Muslims or New Labour for everything.

Don't be so fucking ridiculous you apologist halfwit.

Muslims get blamed for muslim-related crimes like Rotherham, and all the other countless similar cases. Why? Because of the unique MO of the perps, the sheer numbers of rapists and victims involved, plus the cultural/racism angle too. Throw in that authorities turned a blind eye to it for years as not to upset 'community relations' - and you have a powder keg of a story.

Of course white people commit more sex crimes, we're a predominantly white country - what would you expect? Muslims are overrepresented in jails though.

You do realise you're posting in a thread, where there's a media link to sex abuse in the church contained in the OP, yet you still felt the need to tell us that the media only blames muslims?

Re: CHURCH OF ENGLAND FACING HUGE NUMBER OF SEX ABUSE CASES

Post by Punk » Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:37 am

malamute wrote:
Trapper John wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:The onus is on men here. They need to own up to their own, what we women find weird, thoughts and desires, they need to open up about how unsavoury their thoughts are, even to themselves, and try to figure out why they have these desires or acknowledge how harmful it would be to act on them. Males need to talk more honestly to each other about the harmful aspect of those thoughts.


Just so as you're aware there are many instances of female paedophilia.


Last week I read a book by Sue Martin. She spent all her childhood in Dr Barnardo’s Homes and they were all staffed by females. She said that most of them were paedophiles and she suffered much sexual abuse at their hands. It shocked me to be honest.


This has been widespread for many decades. The media will only blame Muslims. When you wake up to the fact that the vast majority of child abuse cases are by White British you might stop blaming Muslims or New Labour for everything.

Re: CHURCH OF ENGLAND FACING HUGE NUMBER OF SEX ABUSE CASES

Post by Guest » Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:36 pm

Guest wrote:
malamute wrote:An elderly priest at my Mums church recently vanished off the scene. Apparently he is facing allegations of sexual abuse from several years ago and the church had to then make an announcement.

What surprised me is that the congregation are all praying for him. They seem to think the accusers are “looking for compensation.”


But you and your EDL stupid insult mates reckon it is just the Muslims doing child abuse.
When ever there is a thread on white British paedos you are absent but if a Muslim is charged with an offence you go ballsitic.


True.
Out of over a hundred threads on white British paedos she has spoken on two or three of that.
She has a 99plus% rate on threads about Muslim paedos.
Apparently her best friend is a Muslim. OR black.

Re: CHURCH OF ENGLAND FACING HUGE NUMBER OF SEX ABUSE CASES

Post by malamute » Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:09 pm

Guest wrote:
malamute wrote:An elderly priest at my Mums church recently vanished off the scene. Apparently he is facing allegations of sexual abuse from several years ago and the church had to then make an announcement.

What surprised me is that the congregation are all praying for him. They seem to think the accusers are “looking for compensation.”


But you and your EDL stupid insult mates reckon it is just the Muslims doing child abuse.
When ever there is a thread on white British paedos you are absent but if a Muslim is charged with an offence you go ballsitic.


Why do you have to be so vile?

This thread is about British Paedophiles and I’m not absent so I dont know how you reached that conclusion. Oh actually, yes I do - its because you dont even read what the thread is about you just want to have a go at me for some reason only known to yourself. Its water off a ducks back to me but you just carry on if it makes you feel better.

Re: CHURCH OF ENGLAND FACING HUGE NUMBER OF SEX ABUSE CASES

Post by Guest » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:59 pm

malamute wrote:An elderly priest at my Mums church recently vanished off the scene. Apparently he is facing allegations of sexual abuse from several years ago and the church had to then make an announcement.

What surprised me is that the congregation are all praying for him. They seem to think the accusers are “looking for compensation.”


But you and your EDL stupid insult mates reckon it is just the Muslims doing child abuse.
When ever there is a thread on white British paedos you are absent but if a Muslim is charged with an offence you go ballsitic.

Re: CHURCH OF ENGLAND FACING HUGE NUMBER OF SEX ABUSE CASES

Post by malamute » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:54 pm

An elderly priest at my Mums church recently vanished off the scene. Apparently he is facing allegations of sexual abuse from several years ago and the church had to then make an announcement.

What surprised me is that the congregation are all praying for him. They seem to think the accusers are “looking for compensation.”

Re: CHURCH OF ENGLAND FACING HUGE NUMBER OF SEX ABUSE CASES

Post by malamute » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:49 pm

Trapper John wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:The onus is on men here. They need to own up to their own, what we women find weird, thoughts and desires, they need to open up about how unsavoury their thoughts are, even to themselves, and try to figure out why they have these desires or acknowledge how harmful it would be to act on them. Males need to talk more honestly to each other about the harmful aspect of those thoughts.


Just so as you're aware there are many instances of female paedophilia.


Last week I read a book by Sue Martin. She spent all her childhood in Dr Barnardo’s Homes and they were all staffed by females. She said that most of them were paedophiles and she suffered much sexual abuse at their hands. It shocked me to be honest.

Re: CHURCH OF ENGLAND FACING HUGE NUMBER OF SEX ABUSE CASES

Post by Stooo » Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:29 pm

Guest wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:
Red Okktober wrote:
calitom wrote: complete and utter nonsense. its like saying why do teachers go thru all that training just to get near kids when they could be out selling ice cream. Its not the same access.
People dont all of a sudden become pedos out of nowhere. And there is nothing about being a teacher or a priest or a church of england priest that makes one a pedo
The celibacy argument doesnt make any sense either because pedophilia in the non catholic churches is actually slighter higher...and those priests and pastors are married.

So all this child abuse that is rife in the church, isn't carried out by men of god? Men who have devoted their entire adult lives to religious studies and training, living a devout ecclesiastical lifestyle, but to paedo infiltrators who have no interest in religion at all?

They've fooled everyone around them. They've been ordained, conducted mass and holy communion, listened to confessions, married people, buried people, given tea parties and opened fetes. But they don't give a shit about any of that, they're only going through it so they have access to their victims?

I agree with Red.


So do I, am I going bonkers?


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Re: CHURCH OF ENGLAND FACING HUGE NUMBER OF SEX ABUSE CASES

Post by Guest » Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:23 pm

Lady Murasaki wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:
Red Okktober wrote:
calitom wrote: complete and utter nonsense. its like saying why do teachers go thru all that training just to get near kids when they could be out selling ice cream. Its not the same access.
People dont all of a sudden become pedos out of nowhere. And there is nothing about being a teacher or a priest or a church of england priest that makes one a pedo
The celibacy argument doesnt make any sense either because pedophilia in the non catholic churches is actually slighter higher...and those priests and pastors are married.

So all this child abuse that is rife in the church, isn't carried out by men of god? Men who have devoted their entire adult lives to religious studies and training, living a devout ecclesiastical lifestyle, but to paedo infiltrators who have no interest in religion at all?

They've fooled everyone around them. They've been ordained, conducted mass and holy communion, listened to confessions, married people, buried people, given tea parties and opened fetes. But they don't give a shit about any of that, they're only going through it so they have access to their victims?

I agree with Red.


So do I, am I going bonkers?


Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

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Re: CHURCH OF ENGLAND FACING HUGE NUMBER OF SEX ABUSE CASES

Post by Lady Murasaki » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:49 am

Rolluplostinspace wrote:
Red Okktober wrote:
calitom wrote: complete and utter nonsense. its like saying why do teachers go thru all that training just to get near kids when they could be out selling ice cream. Its not the same access.
People dont all of a sudden become pedos out of nowhere. And there is nothing about being a teacher or a priest or a church of england priest that makes one a pedo
The celibacy argument doesnt make any sense either because pedophilia in the non catholic churches is actually slighter higher...and those priests and pastors are married.

So all this child abuse that is rife in the church, isn't carried out by men of god? Men who have devoted their entire adult lives to religious studies and training, living a devout ecclesiastical lifestyle, but to paedo infiltrators who have no interest in religion at all?

They've fooled everyone around them. They've been ordained, conducted mass and holy communion, listened to confessions, married people, buried people, given tea parties and opened fetes. But they don't give a shit about any of that, they're only going through it so they have access to their victims?

I agree with Red.


So do I, am I going bonkers?

Re: CHURCH OF ENGLAND FACING HUGE NUMBER OF SEX ABUSE CASES

Post by Red Okktober » Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:32 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:I agree with Red.

I can understand paedos targeting certain types of jobs to get close to kids - swimming pool attendant for example, but devoting your adult life to living as a priest - when you have no interest in religion - and being able to carry it off and perform all the duties without being rumbled, is a bit far-fetched.

Re: CHURCH OF ENGLAND FACING HUGE NUMBER OF SEX ABUSE CASES

Post by Rolluplostinspace » Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:40 am

Red Okktober wrote:
calitom wrote: complete and utter nonsense. its like saying why do teachers go thru all that training just to get near kids when they could be out selling ice cream. Its not the same access.
People dont all of a sudden become pedos out of nowhere. And there is nothing about being a teacher or a priest or a church of england priest that makes one a pedo
The celibacy argument doesnt make any sense either because pedophilia in the non catholic churches is actually slighter higher...and those priests and pastors are married.

So all this child abuse that is rife in the church, isn't carried out by men of god? Men who have devoted their entire adult lives to religious studies and training, living a devout ecclesiastical lifestyle, but to paedo infiltrators who have no interest in religion at all?

They've fooled everyone around them. They've been ordained, conducted mass and holy communion, listened to confessions, married people, buried people, given tea parties and opened fetes. But they don't give a shit about any of that, they're only going through it so they have access to their victims?

I agree with Red.

Re: CHURCH OF ENGLAND FACING HUGE NUMBER OF SEX ABUSE CASES

Post by Guest » Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:39 am

Red Okktober wrote:
calitom wrote: complete and utter nonsense. its like saying why do teachers go thru all that training just to get near kids when they could be out selling ice cream. Its not the same access.
People dont all of a sudden become pedos out of nowhere. And there is nothing about being a teacher or a priest or a church of england priest that makes one a pedo
The celibacy argument doesnt make any sense either because pedophilia in the non catholic churches is actually slighter higher...and those priests and pastors are married.

So all this child abuse that is rife in the church, isn't carried out by men of god? Men who have devoted their entire adult lives to religious studies and training, living a devout ecclesiastical lifestyle, but to paedo infiltrators who have no interest in religion at all?

They've fooled everyone around them. They've been ordained, conducted mass and holy communion, listened to confessions, married people, buried people, given tea parties and opened fetes. But they don't give a shit about any of that, they're only going through it so they have access to their victims?


The CofE and RC child abuses make Rotherham and all the others loom like a drop in the Pacific ocean.
Which do you bang on about the most?
The drop in the ocean. :off head:

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