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Re: deep state strikes....

Post by McAz » Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:17 pm

Gigabit wrote:If the PM had gone to Parliament and they'd voted yes I would have disagreed but could sleep knowing this issue had been properly publicly debated and a decision based on a range of opinion had been come to.

The fact May hasn't done this to me says she knew she'd lose. Now if she knew she'd lose, perhaps she should look at why that might have been. Instead, she decided do the opposite and just do it anyway. Whatever she wanted this to look like, it just looks like we're following the USA again.


Political stunt. Nothing more or less.

Re: deep state strikes....

Post by Gigabit » Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:15 pm

If the PM had gone to Parliament and they'd voted yes I would have disagreed but could sleep knowing this issue had been properly publicly debated and a decision based on a range of opinion had been come to.

The fact May hasn't done this to me says she knew she'd lose. Now if she knew she'd lose, perhaps she should look at why that might have been. Instead, she decided do the opposite and just do it anyway. Whatever she wanted this to look like, it just looks like we're following the USA again.

Re: deep state strikes....

Post by Didge » Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:02 pm

McAz wrote:
Didge wrote:
McAz wrote:I haven't made any claims, Dodge.



Listen wetwipe, neither you nor any other Corbynista, has actuacllt addressed a single point

You have completely made a dick of yourself thinking you are the next Cathy Newman


Gosh! :gigglesnshit:



:Hiya:

Re: deep state strikes....

Post by McAz » Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:01 pm

Didge wrote:
McAz wrote:I haven't made any claims, Dodge.



Listen wetwipe, neither you nor any other Corbynista, has actuacllt addressed a single point

You have completely made a dick of yourself thinking you are the next Cathy Newman


Golly! :gigglesnshit:

Re: deep state strikes....

Post by Didge » Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:00 pm

McAz wrote:I haven't made any claims, Dodge.



Listen wetwipe, neither you nor any other Corbynista, has actually addressed a single point, on the many points I made

But then most idiots who back Corbyn, forget he has sided with Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran, Russia etc

You have completely made a dick of yourself thinking you are the next Cathy Newman

Re: deep state strikes....

Post by McAz » Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:38 pm

Guest wrote:
McAz wrote:
Didge wrote:
McAz wrote:Why bother - we can respond to Semen Staines' slurs and fake news on his own site? :dunno:


So far all you have done is show you have the mental capcity of a 6 month old baby

Not once have you addressed a single point on this topic

You have shown you are one hell of a clueless Corbynista Maxist idiot.

Now either address my points or run along and play with your Pol Pot and Mao action men


You have no point that I can see. :dunno:



I can't see one either.

Another desperate Tory that has run out of places to peddle his nonsense :pmsl:

NF is getting pissed off with him and he fears a ban - so here he is.

Re: deep state strikes....

Post by McAz » Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:36 pm

I haven't made any claims, Dodge.

Re: deep state strikes....

Post by Guest » Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:36 pm

McAz wrote:
Didge wrote:
McAz wrote:Why bother - we can respond to Semen Staines' slurs and fake news on his own site? :dunno:


So far all you have done is show you have the mental capcity of a 6 month old baby

Not once have you addressed a single point on this topic

You have shown you are one hell of a clueless Corbynista Maxist idiot.

Now either address my points or run along and play with your Pol Pot and Mao action men


You have no point that I can see. :dunno:



I can't see one either.

Another desperate Tory that has run out of places to peddle his nonsense :pmsl:

Re: deep state strikes....

Post by Didge » Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:35 pm

McAz wrote:
Cannydc wrote:
Stooo wrote:
Cannydc wrote:MATE ?

Blimey Stooo - I had you down as someone who chose their friends carefully.

Why are numerous threads suddenly being spammed to death by someone suffering from faux anti-Semitic rage and a tendency to group everyone left of Attila the Hun as being 'Hard Left' ?

Or is this another Viper resurrection ?


No, Didge is from Newsfix and we're just catching up a bit.

I'm deathly worried about the current situation but if people want to tear lumps out of each other because of political ideology as a vent then so be it.


Fair do's but it gets a bit tedious reading page after page of dross.


It's his claim to be a pychologist while he mocks the mentally afflicted that is more worrying. :shake head:


You still being a snowflaake

Funny how any of you claims fell flat eh Pol Pot?#

Might want to make you rethink jumping on an attacking posters, when you stupidly thought I was knew, but I expect no less from brainless morans who have no conception of how failed socialism is as a concept in history as Governement system

Re: deep state strikes....

Post by McAz » Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:32 pm

Didge wrote:
McAz wrote:Why bother - we can respond to Semen Staines' slurs and fake news on his own site? :dunno:


So far all you have done is show you have the mental capcity of a 6 month old baby

Not once have you addressed a single point on this topic

You have shown you are one hell of a clueless Corbynista Maxist idiot.

Now either address my points or run along and play with your Pol Pot and Mao action men


You have no point that I can see. :dunno:

Re: deep state strikes....

Post by Didge » Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:31 pm

McAz wrote:Why bother - we can respond to Semen Staines' slurs and fake news on his own site? :dunno:


So far all you have done is show you have the mental capcity of a 6 month old baby

Not once have you addressed a single point on this topic

You have shown you are one hell of a clueless Corbynista Maxist idiot.

Now either address my points or run along and play with your Pol Pot and Mao action men

Re: deep state strikes....

Post by Didge » Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:28 pm

Jay Jay wrote:
Didge wrote:
calitom wrote:Idiot fucking move.
assad fights Isis and the jerkoff americans bomb him.I have fucking had it.

people are fricking pissed.huge fucking betrayal.



Just about the most absurd thing I have ever heard

Stalin fought against the Nazis and yet murdered millions. Do you want to applaud Stalin?

Assad is a war criminal who has tortured, murdered and used chemical weapons on civillians and in many cases starved them to death.

We must all fight and stand against ISIS, but that does not mean you excuse Assad, a mass murderers, because they also share a common enemy. Stalin got away with many war crimes, and mass murder. Do you want the same with Assad, simple because he is at war with ISIS, as we are in the west? Does that excuse his many crimes? Its the Russian people I am grateful of, in how they fought back against the Nazi's. Though many of them, were guilty of war crimes. 2 million German women and girls were raped in the last couple of months of the war. Clearly reprisals to all the mass murder and rape committed by the Germans. Though both acts being completely wrong and never justified.

You sound like Neville Chamberlain, nothing more than an appeaser and what happened then, when it was too late?

We did have a world war.

Now let me break it down for you

I will say one thing. Clearly either the Russians did not react to the multiple attacks with their S-400 defense system and like I proved. Their show of force and counter threats is a bluff game. Which if yes, they then backed down to an actually counter the attack.

Or now the west have the capability of jamming their systems, thus rendering the S-400 defense system redundent. If that is the case and based on Israel committing a similar strike recently. Then the Russians, will be very worried their state of the art system, is basically useless to countering attacks. I have a feeling this more than anything could be the case, as why is Russia so silent after this. They showed nerves after the attack by Israel on the Syrian facility and maybe its Israel leading the charge here in being able to thwart the S-400 system. Who knows and I guess we may never find out.

If the Russians did not counter the attack. Knowing they could have, with the system. Then to me, Putin is playing a high stake poker game, which has now called his bluff. His hand has been shown and he did nothing. His economy is ten times smaller than the US and he knows, he can never compete with the US military budget. It will never go down the road of a nuke war. Russia, through the appeasement of Obama, became bolder and thought they could do as they please. Now this has been firmly placed into check by this attack and I appluad France, Britain and America for standing up to Putin and Assad, by targeting such chemical facilities.

People need to remember where such appeasement of Hitler led the world into and why I believe, this was a bold step to say no more.

Its seems Putin is all mouth and will continue to resort to devious tactics, like the attempted assassination and interferring with elections. Putin seriously did not predict for someone so unhinged in Trump (who he clearly helped get elected), to then turn on him. Who to garner popularity, will stop at nothing to do so. He thought he had Trump in his pocket. He clearly was wrong.

Moscow interested in US cooperation

Russia's deputy foreign minister Sergei Ryabkov said Moscow had been in touch with the US, UK and France, the RIA news agency reported.

Mr Ryabkov also said in an interview with the Kommersant newspaper that Moscow was interested in cooperation with Washington over Syria.

https://news.sky.com/story/live-us-uk-a ... a-11329799


Hence when you call a bullies bluff, they as seen above generally back down.

For idiots like Corbyn, who think like Neville Chamberlain, that they can thwart a world war through appeasement. It shows that idiot has never learnt from history. Where such views led to a world war, because they did nothing to stand up to Hitler until it was too late. A show of force and action has seen Russia under Putin look all mouth and no trousers. He will lose face badly in Russia over this and it proves yet again, most of their threats are bluffs.

Lets hope now, Russia is serious in wanting to work together to not only end the civil war, but also bring Assad before a criminal war crimes tribunal.

Has Theresa May's 'grave' risk in Syria paid off?

The Prime Minister described the decision to send the UK's Armed Forces into conflict as the "gravest" a leader can make.

She will be relieved this morning that the risk appears to have paid off. After six days of planning and soul searching, she gave the order for British jets to fly in a coalition alongside US and French partners. The choice of targets was limited but deliberate. There had been speculation the US might opt for a wave of airstrikes over a series of nights targeting airfields, ammunition stores and aircraft.

In the end, only three chemical weapons facilities were hit - the coalition hopes this will be seen as proportionate by the international community and acceptable to the Kremlin. The calculation was that Russia might not be able to sit on its hands if waves of airstrikes came over night after night.

There were no Russian casualties according to Moscow, and the feared S-400 missile battery at Latakia air base on Syria's west coast stayed silent.

Whether that was a deliberate decision by Putin to avoid a dangerous escalation, or as a result of coalition jamming technology, we might never know. The Pentagon said this was a "one-time hit" and the briefing I'm receiving from the UK end concurs with that. Unless President Assad retaliates in some form, I don't expect further airstrikes tonight.

It's all a very different outcome to the one we were predicting when Donald Trump tweeted that there would be a "big price to pay" and warned Russia that missiles would be coming "nice, and new and smart".

https://news.sky.com/story/has-theresa- ... f-11330033


So please feel free to pander to Totalitarian dictators in Putin and Assad. They like ISIS, have to be stood up to


So why were Assad and Putin attacking ISIS sites?
Your claim is for far away from reality me old mukka. :off head:



Really?

So you view is that if somebody is fighting ISIS, they are free from any form of criminality then?

Thank you for at least engaging in some fort of debate

Unlike the Corbynista childrens brigade on here.

"We love communism and have learnt nothing from history and want to make the same stupid mistakes all over again"

Re: deep state strikes....

Post by Jay Jay » Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:29 pm

Didge wrote:
calitom wrote:Idiot fucking move.
assad fights Isis and the jerkoff americans bomb him.I have fucking had it.

people are fricking pissed.huge fucking betrayal.



Just about the most absurd thing I have ever heard

Stalin fought against the Nazis and yet murdered millions. Do you want to applaud Stalin?

Assad is a war criminal who has tortured, murdered and used chemical weapons on civillians and in many cases starved them to death.

We must all fight and stand against ISIS, but that does not mean you excuse Assad, a mass murderers, because they also share a common enemy. Stalin got away with many war crimes, and mass murder. Do you want the same with Assad, simple because he is at war with ISIS, as we are in the west? Does that excuse his many crimes? Its the Russian people I am grateful of, in how they fought back against the Nazi's. Though many of them, were guilty of war crimes. 2 million German women and girls were raped in the last couple of months of the war. Clearly reprisals to all the mass murder and rape committed by the Germans. Though both acts being completely wrong and never justified.

You sound like Neville Chamberlain, nothing more than an appeaser and what happened then, when it was too late?

We did have a world war.

Now let me break it down for you

I will say one thing. Clearly either the Russians did not react to the multiple attacks with their S-400 defense system and like I proved. Their show of force and counter threats is a bluff game. Which if yes, they then backed down to an actually counter the attack.

Or now the west have the capability of jamming their systems, thus rendering the S-400 defense system redundent. If that is the case and based on Israel committing a similar strike recently. Then the Russians, will be very worried their state of the art system, is basically useless to countering attacks. I have a feeling this more than anything could be the case, as why is Russia so silent after this. They showed nerves after the attack by Israel on the Syrian facility and maybe its Israel leading the charge here in being able to thwart the S-400 system. Who knows and I guess we may never find out.

If the Russians did not counter the attack. Knowing they could have, with the system. Then to me, Putin is playing a high stake poker game, which has now called his bluff. His hand has been shown and he did nothing. His economy is ten times smaller than the US and he knows, he can never compete with the US military budget. It will never go down the road of a nuke war. Russia, through the appeasement of Obama, became bolder and thought they could do as they please. Now this has been firmly placed into check by this attack and I appluad France, Britain and America for standing up to Putin and Assad, by targeting such chemical facilities.

People need to remember where such appeasement of Hitler led the world into and why I believe, this was a bold step to say no more.

Its seems Putin is all mouth and will continue to resort to devious tactics, like the attempted assassination and interferring with elections. Putin seriously did not predict for someone so unhinged in Trump (who he clearly helped get elected), to then turn on him. Who to garner popularity, will stop at nothing to do so. He thought he had Trump in his pocket. He clearly was wrong.

Moscow interested in US cooperation

Russia's deputy foreign minister Sergei Ryabkov said Moscow had been in touch with the US, UK and France, the RIA news agency reported.

Mr Ryabkov also said in an interview with the Kommersant newspaper that Moscow was interested in cooperation with Washington over Syria.

https://news.sky.com/story/live-us-uk-a ... a-11329799


Hence when you call a bullies bluff, they as seen above generally back down.

For idiots like Corbyn, who think like Neville Chamberlain, that they can thwart a world war through appeasement. It shows that idiot has never learnt from history. Where such views led to a world war, because they did nothing to stand up to Hitler until it was too late. A show of force and action has seen Russia under Putin look all mouth and no trousers. He will lose face badly in Russia over this and it proves yet again, most of their threats are bluffs.

Lets hope now, Russia is serious in wanting to work together to not only end the civil war, but also bring Assad before a criminal war crimes tribunal.

Has Theresa May's 'grave' risk in Syria paid off?

The Prime Minister described the decision to send the UK's Armed Forces into conflict as the "gravest" a leader can make.

She will be relieved this morning that the risk appears to have paid off. After six days of planning and soul searching, she gave the order for British jets to fly in a coalition alongside US and French partners. The choice of targets was limited but deliberate. There had been speculation the US might opt for a wave of airstrikes over a series of nights targeting airfields, ammunition stores and aircraft.

In the end, only three chemical weapons facilities were hit - the coalition hopes this will be seen as proportionate by the international community and acceptable to the Kremlin. The calculation was that Russia might not be able to sit on its hands if waves of airstrikes came over night after night.

There were no Russian casualties according to Moscow, and the feared S-400 missile battery at Latakia air base on Syria's west coast stayed silent.

Whether that was a deliberate decision by Putin to avoid a dangerous escalation, or as a result of coalition jamming technology, we might never know. The Pentagon said this was a "one-time hit" and the briefing I'm receiving from the UK end concurs with that. Unless President Assad retaliates in some form, I don't expect further airstrikes tonight.

It's all a very different outcome to the one we were predicting when Donald Trump tweeted that there would be a "big price to pay" and warned Russia that missiles would be coming "nice, and new and smart".

https://news.sky.com/story/has-theresa- ... f-11330033


So please feel free to pander to Totalitarian dictators in Putin and Assad. They like ISIS, have to be stood up to


So why were Assad and Putin attacking ISIS sites?
Your claim is for far away from reality me old mukka. :off head:

Re: deep state strikes....

Post by Guest » Sat Apr 14, 2018 4:45 pm

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This rabble of far right Tory psychopaths think that they are above the law.

Get them out!

Re: deep state strikes....

Post by McAz » Sat Apr 14, 2018 4:18 pm

Why bother - we can respond to Semen Staines' slurs and fake news on his own site? :dunno:

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