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Re: Great points by Owen Jones

Post by bogtrotter » Sun May 13, 2018 10:09 pm

Gigabit wrote:
bogtrotter wrote:
Gigabit wrote:
Ray of Sunshine wrote:
Gigabit wrote:
You're deluded. I happen to think we've fucked it up pretty badly for the Middle East, don't you?


Why am I deluded?

Slavery is allowed under Sharia Law, homosexuality is not.


We're not living under Sharia Law. You need to stop reading the DM.



"The DM hate Britain and I'm ashamed to be on the same side as them (the right)."

Do you recall writing that less than a year ago ?


Link?

https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussio ... t_86653497

Re: Great points by Owen Jones

Post by Gigabit » Sun May 13, 2018 8:12 pm

bogtrotter wrote:
Gigabit wrote:
Ray of Sunshine wrote:
Gigabit wrote:
You're deluded. I happen to think we've fucked it up pretty badly for the Middle East, don't you?


Why am I deluded?

Slavery is allowed under Sharia Law, homosexuality is not.


We're not living under Sharia Law. You need to stop reading the DM.



"The DM hate Britain and I'm ashamed to be on the same side as them (the right)."

Do you recall writing that less than a year ago ?


Link?

Re: Great points by Owen Jones

Post by bogtrotter » Sun May 13, 2018 8:02 pm

Gigabit wrote:
Ray of Sunshine wrote:
Gigabit wrote:
You're deluded. I happen to think we've fucked it up pretty badly for the Middle East, don't you?


Why am I deluded?

Slavery is allowed under Sharia Law, homosexuality is not.


We're not living under Sharia Law. You need to stop reading the DM.



"The DM hate Britain and I'm ashamed to be on the same side as them (the right)."

Do you recall writing that less than a year ago ?

Re: Great points by Owen Jones

Post by Guest » Sun May 13, 2018 7:21 pm

Ray of Sunshine wrote:
Guest wrote:Minorities need to be fucking arrogant.

If the minorities hadn't been fucking arrogant, then we would still have slavery and it would still be illegal to be gay.


Well thanks to people like you we will have both those things again soon.

Sharia 2030.


said no one with an IQ over 75

Re: Great points by Owen Jones

Post by Guest » Sun May 13, 2018 7:15 pm

Gigabit wrote:
Ray of Sunshine wrote:
Gigabit wrote:
You're deluded. I happen to think we've fucked it up pretty badly for the Middle East, don't you?


Why am I deluded?

Slavery is allowed under Sharia Law, homosexuality is not.


We're not living under Sharia Law. You need to stop reading the DM.


The Far Right aren't very bright.

Re: Great points by Owen Jones

Post by Gigabit » Sun May 13, 2018 7:08 pm

Ray of Sunshine wrote:
Gigabit wrote:
You're deluded. I happen to think we've fucked it up pretty badly for the Middle East, don't you?


Why am I deluded?

Slavery is allowed under Sharia Law, homosexuality is not.


We're not living under Sharia Law. You need to stop reading the DM.

Re: Great points by Owen Jones

Post by Guest » Sun May 13, 2018 7:03 pm

Ray of Sunshine wrote:
McAz wrote:
Gosh - there's some unwhites among them - no wonder the alt-right are so sneery.


That's London.

Looks like non-whites are under-represented to me.


LOL :roll:

Re: Great points by Owen Jones

Post by Guest » Sun May 13, 2018 6:56 pm

Ray of Sunshine wrote:
Gigabit wrote:
You're deluded. I happen to think we've fucked it up pretty badly for the Middle East, don't you?


Why am I deluded?

Slavery is allowed under Sharia Law, homosexuality is not.


There will never be Sharia Law in this country you far right muppet. Next you'll be saying that we will all be hit with Muslamic ray guns :off head: :pmsl:

Re: Great points by Owen Jones

Post by Ray of Sunshine » Sun May 13, 2018 6:52 pm

Gigabit wrote:
You're deluded. I happen to think we've fucked it up pretty badly for the Middle East, don't you?


Why am I deluded?

Slavery is allowed under Sharia Law, homosexuality is not.

Re: Great points by Owen Jones

Post by Ray of Sunshine » Sun May 13, 2018 6:50 pm

McAz wrote:
Gosh - there's some unwhites among them - no wonder the alt-right are so sneery.


That's London.

Looks like non-whites are under-represented to me.

Re: Great points by Owen Jones

Post by Gigabit » Sun May 13, 2018 6:48 pm

Ray of Sunshine wrote:
Guest wrote:Minorities need to be fucking arrogant.

If the minorities hadn't been fucking arrogant, then we would still have slavery and it would still be illegal to be gay.


Well thanks to people like you we will have both those things again soon.

Sharia 2030.


You're deluded. I happen to think we've fucked it up pretty badly for the Middle East, don't you?

Re: Great points by Owen Jones

Post by Guest » Sun May 13, 2018 6:48 pm

Si_Crewe wrote:
Gigabit wrote:Has anyone actually attacked Owen's points yet or just deflected onto other things. What a sad state of affairs the right of this country are in.


Fundamentally, he lacks any shred of credibility because he rejects anything that contradicts his prejudices.
He doesn't just disagree. He refuses to even consider the merit of anything that conflicts with his beliefs.

That being the case, it's utter hypocrisy for him to complain that "the media" has any overall bias.
To reach that conclusion, he would need to ignore the existence of any rabidly left-wing media outlets (or, perhaps, consider them "unbiased") and only fixate on the existence of equally rabid right-wing media sources.

Within the first 30 seconds of that video, he's moaning about a lack of tolerance of conflicting opinions.
That, again, demonstrates an utter lack of self awareness and massive hypocrisy, given his own refusal to consider opinions that oppose his own.

The simple fact is that he's an authoritarian collectivist and he's completely unwilling to tolerate any opinion that conflicts with his own.
He's probably further from being a Liberal, in the true sense of the word, than anybody in our current tory government.

Here's an interview with Tom Walker (Jonathon Pie) - who he seems to consider to be right-wing - which does a great job of demonstrating everything wrong with Jones' mentality:- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA6OwzQ-P1Q&t=5s

He, basically, flat-out refuses to acknowledge the merit of anything that he doesn't already agree with.





...That puts that load of shite to bed.

Re: Great points by Owen Jones

Post by Ray of Sunshine » Sun May 13, 2018 6:46 pm

Guest wrote:Minorities need to be fucking arrogant.

If the minorities hadn't been fucking arrogant, then we would still have slavery and it would still be illegal to be gay.


Well thanks to people like you we will have both those things again soon.

Sharia 2030.

Re: Great points by Owen Jones

Post by Gigabit » Sun May 13, 2018 4:26 pm

Guest wrote:
Gigabit wrote:
Si_Crewe wrote:
Gigabit wrote:Has anyone actually attacked Owen's points yet or just deflected onto other things. What a sad state of affairs the right of this country are in.


Fundamentally, he lacks any shred of credibility because he rejects anything that contradicts his prejudices.
He doesn't just disagree. He refuses to even consider the merit of anything that conflicts with his beliefs.

That being the case, it's utter hypocrisy for him to complain that "the media" has any overall bias.
To reach that conclusion, he would need to ignore the existence of any rabidly left-wing media outlets (or, perhaps, consider them "unbiased") and only fixate on the existence of equally rabid right-wing media sources.

Within the first 30 seconds of that video, he's moaning about a lack of tolerance of conflicting opinions.
That, again, demonstrates an utter lack of self awareness and massive hypocrisy, given his own refusal to consider opinions that oppose his own.

The simple fact is that he's an authoritarian collectivist and he's completely unwilling to tolerate any opinion that conflicts with his own.
He's probably further from being a Liberal, in the true sense of the word, than anybody in our current tory government.

Here's an interview with Tom Walker (Jonathon Pie) - who he seems to consider to be right-wing - which does a great job of demonstrating everything wrong with Jones' mentality:- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA6OwzQ-P1Q&t=5s

He, basically, flat-out refuses to acknowledge the merit of anything that he doesn't already agree with.


Fair analysis. Thank you.


....However wrong and misguided.


I disagree with the analysis yes but it is reasoned and educated and doesn't resort to attacking him personally nor his sexuality. A rarity on these forums that is for sure. Credit where credit is due and well done to that poster for not resorting to swearing!

Re: Great points by Owen Jones

Post by Guest » Sun May 13, 2018 4:16 pm

Gigabit wrote:
Si_Crewe wrote:
Gigabit wrote:Has anyone actually attacked Owen's points yet or just deflected onto other things. What a sad state of affairs the right of this country are in.


Fundamentally, he lacks any shred of credibility because he rejects anything that contradicts his prejudices.
He doesn't just disagree. He refuses to even consider the merit of anything that conflicts with his beliefs.

That being the case, it's utter hypocrisy for him to complain that "the media" has any overall bias.
To reach that conclusion, he would need to ignore the existence of any rabidly left-wing media outlets (or, perhaps, consider them "unbiased") and only fixate on the existence of equally rabid right-wing media sources.

Within the first 30 seconds of that video, he's moaning about a lack of tolerance of conflicting opinions.
That, again, demonstrates an utter lack of self awareness and massive hypocrisy, given his own refusal to consider opinions that oppose his own.

The simple fact is that he's an authoritarian collectivist and he's completely unwilling to tolerate any opinion that conflicts with his own.
He's probably further from being a Liberal, in the true sense of the word, than anybody in our current tory government.

Here's an interview with Tom Walker (Jonathon Pie) - who he seems to consider to be right-wing - which does a great job of demonstrating everything wrong with Jones' mentality:- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA6OwzQ-P1Q&t=5s

He, basically, flat-out refuses to acknowledge the merit of anything that he doesn't already agree with.


Fair analysis. Thank you.


....However wrong and misguided.

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