by Gigabit » Sat Jun 23, 2018 4:01 pm
wizzywick wrote:Gigabit wrote:wizzywick wrote:Gigabit wrote:wizzywick wrote:Wow! I answered some questions politely and as well reasoned as I could and gigabit and his merry men all explode with anger and then use the ignore button because they can't cope with their comrade Corbyn being criticised. This is what I mean when I described debate as being defunct and aggressive.
The left have always had a bit of backbone when they point their views across, and it always ensured debate was healthy and interesting. But now, it's just shout shout shout and if you say anything I don't like, I'll put you on ignore. You wouldn't hack it on Trifle gigabit, we have no ignore facility!
Excuse me? I treated you with nothing but respect, I didn't say you're on the ignore list. You've gone off on one for literally no reason.
I went off on one as I got confused as to the change of tones. It started amicably and you asked reasonable questions, to which I gave reasonable answers. I no longer get drawn into the politics of anything too deeply, it is too enveloping and takes away quality time I could spend with loved ones. So, I just vote Tory because by and large, on the whole, I find their policies and their "just get on with it, more of the same" approach more acceptable to me. I don't want a party to win which wants to change too much too radically. Conservatives are about conservatism, to conserve. That's pretty much what i prefer.
There is no point going in and out of policies and making comparisons because as we know, both parties can and do change their stance on pretty much everything all the time. You tend to vote for whoever makes you feel more comfortable about. Remove the political ping pong and the jeers and the "nasty Tories kill babies" taglines and you end up with nothing of real substance from anyone. Labour will create more public service jobs at the expense of private sector workers and Tories will do the opposite. That pretty much sums it all up. If you felt I was rude to you, then I apologise. It wasn't my intention.
But my point still remains. There are many angry words from the left as soon as Corbyn is criticised. That's an issue you and others genuinely need to look at.
When have I been rude to you in this thread. I questioned you about your points of view, that is literally said what you wanted: a debate. I don't appreciate you telling me what I've said when I haven't said it. I criticise Corbyn constantly - his Brexit policy is wrong. You need to stop misrepresenting people. It is something you and your right-wing friends need to look at.
I respect you not wanting to debate any further. I don't appreciate your behaviour however.
Who says I don't want to debate further? What behaviour? Now I'm totally confused! I haven't said you've been rude. I said I was confused by the drastic change of tone and that there is a lot of anger displayed in posts. How did you interpret that as me calling you rude? I think I've given you far more honesty in my responses than you expected and you continue to spurt out bizarre bouts of aggression. Go make yourself a nice cup of coffee, eat a fruit scone and come back when you're chilled.
Excuse me? How am I being aggressive - lol. You said yesterday you wanted a debate, that's why I made this thread.
Disagreeing with you isn't being aggressive, you need to stop being so sensitive my friend. This is just me trying to understand why you think the way you do. There is no aggressiveness in my posts, I just don't appreciate you misrepresenting me and saying I'm being rude when I'm not. I feel you're misunderstanding the difference and I will apologise if you feel I'm being aggressive when I am not intending to be.
Please don't be so condescending though and tell me to chill out, etc. I really don't like that and I will call out behaviour when I don't appreciate it.
Apart from that, no issues and I respect you not wanting to debate any further. Good day.
[quote="wizzywick"][quote="Gigabit"][quote="wizzywick"][quote="Gigabit"][quote="wizzywick"]Wow! I answered some questions politely and as well reasoned as I could and gigabit and his merry men all explode with anger and then use the ignore button because they can't cope with their comrade Corbyn being criticised. This is what I mean when I described debate as being defunct and aggressive.
The left have always had a bit of backbone when they point their views across, and it always ensured debate was healthy and interesting. But now, it's just shout shout shout and if you say anything I don't like, I'll put you on ignore. You wouldn't hack it on Trifle gigabit, we have no ignore facility![/quote]
Excuse me? I treated you with nothing but respect, I didn't say you're on the ignore list. You've gone off on one for literally no reason.[/quote]
I went off on one as I got confused as to the change of tones. It started amicably and you asked reasonable questions, to which I gave reasonable answers. I no longer get drawn into the politics of anything too deeply, it is too enveloping and takes away quality time I could spend with loved ones. So, I just vote Tory because by and large, on the whole, I find their policies and their "just get on with it, more of the same" approach more acceptable to me. I don't want a party to win which wants to change too much too radically. Conservatives are about conservatism, to conserve. That's pretty much what i prefer.
There is no point going in and out of policies and making comparisons because as we know, both parties can and do change their stance on pretty much everything all the time. You tend to vote for whoever makes you feel more comfortable about. Remove the political ping pong and the jeers and the "nasty Tories kill babies" taglines and you end up with nothing of real substance from anyone. Labour will create more public service jobs at the expense of private sector workers and Tories will do the opposite. That pretty much sums it all up. If you felt I was rude to you, then I apologise. It wasn't my intention. [b]But my point still remains. There are many angry words from the left as soon as Corbyn is criticised. That's an issue you and others genuinely need to look at.[/b][/quote]
When have I been rude to you in this thread. I questioned you about your points of view, that is literally said what you wanted: a debate. I don't appreciate you telling me what I've said when I haven't said it. I criticise Corbyn constantly - his Brexit policy is wrong. You need to stop misrepresenting people. It is something you and your right-wing friends need to look at.
I respect you not wanting to debate any further. I don't appreciate your behaviour however.[/quote]
Who says I don't want to debate further? What behaviour? Now I'm totally confused! I haven't said you've been rude. I said I was confused by the drastic change of tone and that there is a lot of anger displayed in posts. How did you interpret that as me calling you rude? I think I've given you far more honesty in my responses than you expected and you continue to spurt out bizarre bouts of aggression. Go make yourself a nice cup of coffee, eat a fruit scone and come back when you're chilled.[/quote]
Excuse me? How am I being aggressive - lol. You said yesterday you wanted a debate, that's why I made this thread.
Disagreeing with you isn't being aggressive, you need to stop being so sensitive my friend. This is just me trying to understand why you think the way you do. There is no aggressiveness in my posts, I just don't appreciate you misrepresenting me and saying I'm being rude when I'm not. I feel you're misunderstanding the difference and I will apologise if you feel I'm being aggressive when I am not intending to be.
Please don't be so condescending though and tell me to chill out, etc. I really don't like that and I will call out behaviour when I don't appreciate it.
Apart from that, no issues and I respect you not wanting to debate any further. Good day.