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Re: Theresa May is openly taking Tory voters for gullible idiots

Post by Punk » Thu Jul 05, 2018 11:13 pm

Cannydc wrote:
MungoBrush wrote:
Cannydc wrote:You lie like a cheap Japanese watch, Mungo.

And counting a million people forced into zero hours, non-job contracts as employed is another massive fib.


And they don't have zero hours contracts in Portugal to fiddle the numbers?
You'd better check.

(I already did - you'll need a tissue for that egg on your face)


I wondered why Google had overheated....

But the egg has to stay on your face, I fear.

The nearest contract to zero hours allowed in Portugal is known as an Intermittent Contract.

However, their employment law states - the employee must be employed full-time for at least six months each year, with four months of consecutive employment.

Perhaps the guarantee of 4 months consecutive employment could law in the UK for zero hours contracts ?

Don't hold your breath - and don't try to pretend their Intermittent contract is anything like our zero hours contract. It isn't.


Poor Mungo, busted again. :artist:

Re: Theresa May is openly taking Tory voters for gullible idiots

Post by Cannydc » Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:35 pm

MungoBrush wrote:
Cannydc wrote:You lie like a cheap Japanese watch, Mungo.

And counting a million people forced into zero hours, non-job contracts as employed is another massive fib.


And they don't have zero hours contracts in Portugal to fiddle the numbers?
You'd better check.

(I already did - you'll need a tissue for that egg on your face)


I wondered why Google had overheated....

But the egg has to stay on your face, I fear.

The nearest contract to zero hours allowed in Portugal is known as an Intermittent Contract.

However, their employment law states - the employee must be employed full-time for at least six months each year, with four months of consecutive employment.

Perhaps the guarantee of 4 months consecutive employment could law in the UK for zero hours contracts ?

Don't hold your breath - and don't try to pretend their Intermittent contract is anything like our zero hours contract. It isn't.

Re: Theresa May is openly taking Tory voters for gullible idiots

Post by McAz » Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:28 pm

Who is "us", Mungo? :ooer:

Re: Theresa May is openly taking Tory voters for gullible idiots

Post by MungoBrush » Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:25 pm

Gigabit wrote:Corbyn's policies work. We know this, they worked in America, they worked in Portugal, they worked in Germany, they worked in Norway.

But they won't work in the UK. Because...


Do under 25's get free bus passes in America?
Is tertiary education free in America?
Is the US government nationalising the railways in America?

Tell us gigabit, which of Corbyn's policies have they implemented in America?

Re: Theresa May is openly taking Tory voters for gullible idiots

Post by Keyser » Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:24 pm

Cannydc wrote:You lie like a cheap Japanese watch, Mungo.

And counting a million people forced into zero hours, non-job contracts as employed is another massive fib.

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Re: Theresa May is openly taking Tory voters for gullible idiots

Post by MungoBrush » Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:22 pm

Cannydc wrote:You lie like a cheap Japanese watch, Mungo.

And counting a million people forced into zero hours, non-job contracts as employed is another massive fib.


And they don't have zero hours contracts in Portugal to fiddle the numbers?
You'd better check.

(I already did - you'll need a tissue for that egg on your face)

Re: Theresa May is openly taking Tory voters for gullible idiots

Post by Gigabit » Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:20 pm

Corbyn's policies work. We know this, they worked in America, they worked in Portugal, they worked in Germany, they worked in Norway.

But they won't work in the UK. Because...

Re: Theresa May is openly taking Tory voters for gullible idiots

Post by Cannydc » Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:11 pm

You lie like a cheap Japanese watch, Mungo.

And counting a million people forced into zero hours, non-job contracts as employed is another massive fib.

Re: Theresa May is openly taking Tory voters for gullible idiots

Post by MungoBrush » Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:57 pm

Cannydc wrote:Rollup posts...

Unemployment has fallen from 17.5% in 2013 to 7.9% in 2018.

Mungo posts...

Unemployment - 8% (and rising)

Let's just fact check that, shall we ? Doing that will indicate who we can believe on this forum, and who we definitely cannot.

30th May 2018 - Portugal’s monthly unemployment rate fell to 7.4 percent in April from a revised reading of 7.5 percent the previous month, which was the lowest in 14 years, data from the National Statistics Institute showed on Wednesday.

The jobless rate compares to 9.2 percent in April 2017.

The total number of unemployed fell to 381,400 people in April from 386,000 in March, while the total workforce stood at around 5.15 million.


Houston, I think we have a winner. And if you needed any further proof, ask yourself how the National Minimum wages in both countries actually compare to the real cost of living in both. Also, Inflation in Portugal is well under control at 1% - here it's exactly 3 times that.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-port ... SKCN1IV17Z

https://tradingeconomics.com/portugal/inflation-cpi


Meanwhile, here in the UK,
unemployment has fallen to 4.2%
Lowest level for more that 40 years.

UK beats Portugal hands down don't you think?

Re: Theresa May is openly taking Tory voters for gullible idiots

Post by Cannydc » Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:51 pm

Rollup posts...

Unemployment has fallen from 17.5% in 2013 to 7.9% in 2018.

Mungo posts...

Unemployment - 8% (and rising)

Let's just fact check that, shall we ? Doing that will indicate who we can believe on this forum, and who we definitely cannot.

30th May 2018 - Portugal’s monthly unemployment rate fell to 7.4 percent in April from a revised reading of 7.5 percent the previous month, which was the lowest in 14 years, data from the National Statistics Institute showed on Wednesday.

The jobless rate compares to 9.2 percent in April 2017.

The total number of unemployed fell to 381,400 people in April from 386,000 in March, while the total workforce stood at around 5.15 million.


Houston, I think we have a winner. And if you needed any further proof, ask yourself how the National Minimum wages in both countries actually compare to the real cost of living in both. Also, Inflation in Portugal is well under control at 1% - here it's exactly 3 times that.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-port ... SKCN1IV17Z

https://tradingeconomics.com/portugal/inflation-cpi

Re: Theresa May is openly taking Tory voters for gullible idiots

Post by MungoBrush » Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:39 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:A European country with remarkably similar policies to Jeremy Corbyn’s is booming

Portugal’s economy is growing at its fastest rate for 17 years under a government with policies very similar to those that Jeremy Corbyn’s Labour proposes in the UK.

Back from the brink
Portugal was on the edge of total financial collapse after the global financial crisis of 2007/8. It required a €78bn financial bailout to prop up and help fix its economy.

But since it elected a socialist government in 2015, the country has accomplished an economic recovery described as “a small miracle”. A coalition among left-wing parties in Portugal has underpinned the government.

Unemployment has fallen from 17.5% in 2013 to 7.9% in 2018. Public finances are “in rude health [paywall]“, with the government expecting to “balance the books next year”. And with a “government-supported entrepreneurship ecosystem”, the country is a “top destination” for businesses and startups.
https://www.thecanary.co/global/world-a ... s-booming/


I have no doubt that Corbyn will turn the UK into a Portugal look-alike if he gets the chance:

Debt as % of GDP - UK 87.7% Portugal 125.7%
National minimum wage - UK $1679.50 Portugal $811.50
Education exp per capita - UK $2520 Portugal $1133
GDP per capita - UK $39921 Portugal $21156
Unemployment - UK 4.2% Portugal 8% (and rising)
etc etc

Yes. No doubt at all

https://countryeconomy.com/countries/co ... k/portugal

Re: Theresa May is openly taking Tory voters for gullible idiots

Post by Cannydc » Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:08 am

calitom wrote:It has nothing to do with REPUB DEM or TORY LABOUR anymore.
Its deep state vs notdeepstate now


No it isn't.

Re: Theresa May is openly taking Tory voters for gullible idiots

Post by calitom » Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:37 pm

It has nothing to do with REPUB DEM or TORY LABOUR anymore.
Its deep state vs notdeepstate now

Re: Theresa May is openly taking Tory voters for gullible idiots

Post by Rolluplostinspace » Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:22 pm

A European country with remarkably similar policies to Jeremy Corbyn’s is booming

Portugal’s economy is growing at its fastest rate for 17 years under a government with policies very similar to those that Jeremy Corbyn’s Labour proposes in the UK.

Back from the brink
Portugal was on the edge of total financial collapse after the global financial crisis of 2007/8. It required a €78bn financial bailout to prop up and help fix its economy.

But since it elected a socialist government in 2015, the country has accomplished an economic recovery described as “a small miracle”. A coalition among left-wing parties in Portugal has underpinned the government.

Unemployment has fallen from 17.5% in 2013 to 7.9% in 2018. Public finances are “in rude health [paywall]“, with the government expecting to “balance the books next year”. And with a “government-supported entrepreneurship ecosystem”, the country is a “top destination” for businesses and startups.
https://www.thecanary.co/global/world-a ... s-booming/

Re: Theresa May is openly taking Tory voters for gullible idiots

Post by Rolluplostinspace » Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:01 pm

Jeremy Corbyn’s spectacular takedown of Jacob Rees-Mogg at PMQs
Mr Speaker, it’s very interesting that even those Brexiteers who’ve made Brexit their life’s work are concerned about their own financial interests.

The honourable member for North East Somerset, for example, is relocating his hedge fund to the Eurozone.

Corbyn also said that another Conservative MP, John Redwood, is advising his clients to “disinvest in Britain”. Like Rees-Mogg, Redwood is a staunch Brexiteer. In October 2017, the MP for Wokingham said:

Before the referendum and after, I have already said: prepare for no deal. We will do just fine with that.


https://www.thecanary.co/trending/2018/ ... g-at-pmqs/

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