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Re: What is 21st Century Libertarianism?

Post by Maddog » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:42 pm

Guest wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Guest wrote:Libertarianism is anarchy for rich white dudes.

No women, No Blacks and No poor people need apply


Google Eric July, Larry Sharpe or Julie Borowski. :smilin:

Google Пойдите, ебать себя Ivan


I almost didn't Google it.

Clever. :more beer:

Re: What is 21st Century Libertarianism?

Post by Guest » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:59 am

Maddog wrote:
Guest wrote:Libertarianism is anarchy for rich white dudes.

No women, No Blacks and No poor people need apply


Google Eric July, Larry Sharpe or Julie Borowski. :smilin:

Google Пойдите, ебать себя Ivan

Re: What is 21st Century Libertarianism?

Post by Maddog » Sat Oct 13, 2018 10:40 pm

Guest wrote:Libertarianism is anarchy for rich white dudes.

No women, No Blacks and No poor people need apply


Google Eric July, Larry Sharpe or Julie Borowski. :smilin:

Re: What is 21st Century Libertarianism?

Post by Guest » Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:28 pm

Libertarianism is anarchy for rich white dudes.

No women, No Blacks and No poor people need apply

Re: What is 21st Century Libertarianism?

Post by Maddog » Sat Oct 13, 2018 6:33 pm

Oh, I left off the 17th amendment was ratified in 1913 also. I've grown to dislike that one too. The original method for choosing senators was better.

Re: What is 21st Century Libertarianism?

Post by Maddog » Sat Oct 13, 2018 3:37 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:And the Federal Income Tax and the Federal Reserve were both created in 1913.

It was a shitty year for America




You've come a long way Maddy.


I voted for Harry Browne in 2000. I really haven't changed much.

I've known the problems with too much government for quite some time.

Re: What is 21st Century Libertarianism?

Post by Rolluplostinspace » Sat Oct 13, 2018 10:46 am

And the Federal Income Tax and the Federal Reserve were both created in 1913.

It was a shitty year for America




You've come a long way Maddy.

Re: What is 21st Century Libertarianism?

Post by Lady Murasaki » Sat Oct 13, 2018 10:25 am

Maddog wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:
MungoBrush wrote:Does point 4 mean that they are anti tax?


:laughing:

Taxes aren’t stealing when put to good use, healthcare/education / infrastructure.



Who gets to decide what's a good use? The person that earn the money, or the person that's taking the money?


The people who are voted in to make these decisions.


And see, that's mob rule. It's two wolves and a sheep, voting on what's for dinner. Libertarianism respects the beliefs of the smallest of minorities, as long as they don't harm others.


There’s no perfect system no matter what ideals they start out with, every system has its faults. Some folk who live under dictatorships are happier than those who live in a democracy. Different things work for different countries. One size doesn’t fit all , no matter how attractive the principles appear to be.

Re: What is 21st Century Libertarianism?

Post by Maddog » Fri Oct 12, 2018 9:23 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:
calitom wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:
MungoBrush wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:Where do I sign up?

What about, Your happiness is your own responsibility.


Does point 4 mean that they are anti tax?


:laughing:

Taxes aren’t stealing when put to good use, healthcare/education / infrastructure.


Yes..of course there are many complications to this issue. America went without federal taxes for quite a while and did very well.

Taxes on your earnings came in to pay the never ending debt from money being produced at interest by the banks.
All hose taxes go straight to the federal reserve bankers.
They get spent on nothing.
Yes your country was doing very well till the federal reserve was set up.



And the Federal Income Tax and the Federal Reserve were both created in 1913.

It was a shitty year for America.

Re: What is 21st Century Libertarianism?

Post by Maddog » Fri Oct 12, 2018 9:19 pm

Lady Murasaki wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:
MungoBrush wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:Where do I sign up?

What about, Your happiness is your own responsibility.


Does point 4 mean that they are anti tax?


:laughing:

Taxes aren’t stealing when put to good use, healthcare/education / infrastructure.



Who gets to decide what's a good use? The person that earn the money, or the person that's taking the money?


The people who are voted in to make these decisions.


And see, that's mob rule. It's two wolves and a sheep, voting on what's for dinner. Libertarianism respects the beliefs of the smallest of minorities, as long as they don't harm others.

Re: What is 21st Century Libertarianism?

Post by Maddog » Fri Oct 12, 2018 9:18 pm

wutang wrote:
Maddog wrote:

....The person that earn the money, or the person that's taking the money?



Capitalists don't earn the money, the labour of their workers is responsible for earning the money. The capitalists are the ones taking it.

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I earn my money. :leer:

Re: What is 21st Century Libertarianism?

Post by Rolluplostinspace » Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:16 pm

calitom wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:
MungoBrush wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:Where do I sign up?

What about, Your happiness is your own responsibility.


Does point 4 mean that they are anti tax?


:laughing:

Taxes aren’t stealing when put to good use, healthcare/education / infrastructure.


Yes..of course there are many complications to this issue. America went without federal taxes for quite a while and did very well.

Taxes on your earnings came in to pay the never ending debt from money being produced at interest by the banks.
All hose taxes go straight to the federal reserve bankers.
They get spent on nothing.
Yes your country was doing very well till the federal reserve was set up.

Re: What is 21st Century Libertarianism?

Post by Lady Murasaki » Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:52 pm

Maddog wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:
MungoBrush wrote:
Lady Murasaki wrote:Where do I sign up?

What about, Your happiness is your own responsibility.


Does point 4 mean that they are anti tax?


:laughing:

Taxes aren’t stealing when put to good use, healthcare/education / infrastructure.



Who gets to decide what's a good use? The person that earn the money, or the person that's taking the money?


The people who are voted in to make these decisions.

Re: What is 21st Century Libertarianism?

Post by wutang » Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:56 am

Maddog wrote:
Libertarians will always side with those that promote the most freedom.


Mussolini, Pinochet, Apartheid South Africa, the Confederacy (a literal slave state).

Bastions of freedom to a man :ooer:

Maddog wrote:Sometimes that's been people on the right as opposed to people on the left


Anarchists were a major opposition group to Mussolini. Yet Hayek prefered to support Mussolini :again?:

So much for 'those that promote the most freedom'

Re: What is 21st Century Libertarianism?

Post by wutang » Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:42 am

Maddog wrote:

....The person that earn the money, or the person that's taking the money?



Capitalists don't earn the money, the labour of their workers is responsible for earning the money. The capitalists are the ones taking it.

Image

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