"So as Trump did the same to another person on the very next question"
Yes he did.
And no doubt will again, if anyone dares to question his authority.
Re: 6 Men Arrested for mocking Grenfell Tower Fire
by Guest » Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:34 am
Maddog wrote:Guest wrote:Maddog wrote:Grafenwalder wrote:Maddog wrote:
Is being a moron illegal now too?
Talking of morons, shutting down media that doesn't bow before you flies in the face of your 1st Amendment doesn't it?
If you're talking about Acosta, CNN has a bunch of other folks that can do his job. Not everyone with press credentials gets to attend press briefings.
Acosta got what he wanted.
How can anyone who supports free speech in the way you do approve of the way Trump acts against the very principle of a free and independent press. Trump seems to think he is the editor of every TV show, newspaper, editorial and blog and that's not his job. Furthermore when a government starts to think that's their job, whether that be as arbiters of tastes or as the ultimate arbiters on what questions can be asked Free Speech is out the window.
I have admired your strong libertarian principles but I guess you're just another conservative hack who has sold out to Trump like Rand Paul. Damn you guys are disappointing.
Trump and Acosta are combative. Trump doesn't have to answer his questions. I can see your point, if he made this a habit, but in this particular case, you had one reporter, who for 2 years now, has stood out as a giant pain in the ass, to garner attention for himself, more than to cover the president.
If Trump does this again to someone else, I'll switch to your way of thinking on this particular incident.
Or, for a different perspective.
Given the immense amount of energy being directed at such non-events such as Acosta-gate—did the CNN reporter manhandle a White House intern during a post-midterm press conference?—it's likely we as a country are choosing the latter.
This is unfortunate for an infinite number of reasons, but chief among them is the simple idea that whether we pay attention to it or not, the federal government continues to function, to pass laws and regulation, and to spend more money that we don't have. Donald Trump's brilliance in many ways is to make the mundane seem somehow important and out of the ordinary.
https://reason.com/blog/2018/11/08/with ... g-to-get-s
So as Trump did the same to another person on the very next question you're ........
Going to think of another excuse. I have no illusions about so-called libertarians anymore.
Re: 6 Men Arrested for mocking Grenfell Tower Fire
by Cannydc » Sat Nov 10, 2018 9:43 am
If Trump is unable to stand up to a single journalist by answering and moving on, he shouldn't be in the job.
But hey, we all knew that antway.
But hey, we all knew that antway.
Re: 6 Men Arrested for mocking Grenfell Tower Fire
by Maddog » Sat Nov 10, 2018 3:12 am
Guest wrote:Maddog wrote:Grafenwalder wrote:Maddog wrote:Cannydc wrote:There's quite a diatribe on 'Conservative Home', telling the world that the 6 morons should NOT have been arrested.
https://www.conservativehome.com/thetor ... ested.html
It now turns out that several of them were members of the local Conservative Club...
Am I surprised ?
Is being a moron illegal now too?
Talking of morons, shutting down media that doesn't bow before you flies in the face of your 1st Amendment doesn't it?
If you're talking about Acosta, CNN has a bunch of other folks that can do his job. Not everyone with press credentials gets to attend press briefings.
Acosta got what he wanted.
How can anyone who supports free speech in the way you do approve of the way Trump acts against the very principle of a free and independent press. Trump seems to think he is the editor of every TV show, newspaper, editorial and blog and that's not his job. Furthermore when a government starts to think that's their job, whether that be as arbiters of tastes or as the ultimate arbiters on what questions can be asked Free Speech is out the window.
I have admired your strong libertarian principles but I guess you're just another conservative hack who has sold out to Trump like Rand Paul. Damn you guys are disappointing.
Trump and Acosta are combative. Trump doesn't have to answer his questions. I can see your point, if he made this a habit, but in this particular case, you had one reporter, who for 2 years now, has stood out as a giant pain in the ass, to garner attention for himself, more than to cover the president.
If Trump does this again to someone else, I'll switch to your way of thinking on this particular incident.
Or, for a different perspective.
Given the immense amount of energy being directed at such non-events such as Acosta-gate—did the CNN reporter manhandle a White House intern during a post-midterm press conference?—it's likely we as a country are choosing the latter.
This is unfortunate for an infinite number of reasons, but chief among them is the simple idea that whether we pay attention to it or not, the federal government continues to function, to pass laws and regulation, and to spend more money that we don't have. Donald Trump's brilliance in many ways is to make the mundane seem somehow important and out of the ordinary.
https://reason.com/blog/2018/11/08/with ... g-to-get-s
Re: 6 Men Arrested for mocking Grenfell Tower Fire
by Guest » Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:17 am
Maddog wrote:Grafenwalder wrote:Maddog wrote:Cannydc wrote:There's quite a diatribe on 'Conservative Home', telling the world that the 6 morons should NOT have been arrested.
https://www.conservativehome.com/thetor ... ested.html
It now turns out that several of them were members of the local Conservative Club...
Am I surprised ?
Is being a moron illegal now too?
Talking of morons, shutting down media that doesn't bow before you flies in the face of your 1st Amendment doesn't it?
If you're talking about Acosta, CNN has a bunch of other folks that can do his job. Not everyone with press credentials gets to attend press briefings.
Acosta got what he wanted.
How can anyone who supports free speech in the way you do approve of the way Trump acts against the very principle of a free and independent press. Trump seems to think he is the editor of every TV show, newspaper, editorial and blog and that's not his job. Furthermore when a government starts to think that's their job, whether that be as arbiters of tastes or as the ultimate arbiters on what questions can be asked Free Speech is out the window.
I have admired your strong libertarian principles but I guess you're just another conservative hack who has sold out to Trump like Rand Paul. Damn you guys are disappointing.
Re: 6 Men Arrested for mocking Grenfell Tower Fire
by Grafenwalder » Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:54 pm
Maddog wrote:Grafenwalder wrote:Maddog wrote:Cannydc wrote:There's quite a diatribe on 'Conservative Home', telling the world that the 6 morons should NOT have been arrested.
https://www.conservativehome.com/thetor ... ested.html
It now turns out that several of them were members of the local Conservative Club...
Am I surprised ?
Is being a moron illegal now too?
Talking of morons, shutting down media that doesn't bow before you flies in the face of your 1st Amendment doesn't it?
If you're talking about Acosta, CNN has a bunch of other folks that can do his job. Not everyone with press credentials gets to attend press briefings.
Acosta got what he wanted.
He didn't though did he? Trump spat his dummy out and refused to answer Acosta's valid question. Maybe something to do with the hyperbole and hysteria he's been whipping up over your country about to be "invaded".
Re: 6 Men Arrested for mocking Grenfell Tower Fire
by Maddog » Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:26 pm
Grafenwalder wrote:Maddog wrote:Cannydc wrote:There's quite a diatribe on 'Conservative Home', telling the world that the 6 morons should NOT have been arrested.
https://www.conservativehome.com/thetor ... ested.html
It now turns out that several of them were members of the local Conservative Club...
Am I surprised ?
Is being a moron illegal now too?
Talking of morons, shutting down media that doesn't bow before you flies in the face of your 1st Amendment doesn't it?
If you're talking about Acosta, CNN has a bunch of other folks that can do his job. Not everyone with press credentials gets to attend press briefings.
Acosta got what he wanted.
Re: 6 Men Arrested for mocking Grenfell Tower Fire
by Maddog » Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:23 pm
Cannydc wrote:Maddog wrote:Cannydc wrote:There's quite a diatribe on 'Conservative Home', telling the world that the 6 morons should NOT have been arrested.
https://www.conservativehome.com/thetor ... ested.html
It now turns out that several of them were members of the local Conservative Club...
Am I surprised ?
Is being a moron illegal now too?
It helps, especially in Texas, it seems.
http://1063thebuzz.com/texas-moron-comm ... -captured/
He had the right to remain silent. Apparently he lacked the ability.
Re: 6 Men Arrested for mocking Grenfell Tower Fire
by Grafenwalder » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:50 pm
Maddog wrote:Cannydc wrote:There's quite a diatribe on 'Conservative Home', telling the world that the 6 morons should NOT have been arrested.
https://www.conservativehome.com/thetor ... ested.html
It now turns out that several of them were members of the local Conservative Club...
Am I surprised ?
Is being a moron illegal now too?
Talking of morons, shutting down media that doesn't bow before you flies in the face of your 1st Amendment doesn't it?
Re: 6 Men Arrested for mocking Grenfell Tower Fire
by Cannydc » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:28 pm
Maddog wrote:Cannydc wrote:There's quite a diatribe on 'Conservative Home', telling the world that the 6 morons should NOT have been arrested.
https://www.conservativehome.com/thetor ... ested.html
It now turns out that several of them were members of the local Conservative Club...
Am I surprised ?
Is being a moron illegal now too?
It helps, especially in Texas, it seems.
http://1063thebuzz.com/texas-moron-comm ... -captured/
Re: 6 Men Arrested for mocking Grenfell Tower Fire
by Maddog » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:18 pm
Cannydc wrote:There's quite a diatribe on 'Conservative Home', telling the world that the 6 morons should NOT have been arrested.
https://www.conservativehome.com/thetor ... ested.html
It now turns out that several of them were members of the local Conservative Club...
Am I surprised ?
Is being a moron illegal now too?
Re: 6 Men Arrested for mocking Grenfell Tower Fire
by Grafenwalder » Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:07 pm
Snookerballs wrote:Wilson wrote:I wonder when someone will be held accountable for the actual Grenfell tower fire that would never have happened if it wasn't covered in flammable cladding?
The morons who burnt the effigy are a really convenient distraction.
IMO its going to be a difficult problem to blame anyone for the Cladding fitted to Grenfell Tower ,
Reading up on the type of cladding used at the time it followed Standard European Tests = Re action to fire are rated A to F,
Reynobond PE had a certificate rating at the time of fitting of "B"
A rating being the top rating F Rating the worst
The only difficulty being caused is from wasting time looking around for scapegoats to take the blame for those at the top. Government/s and the council planners have a lot to answer over Grenfell. The cladding should never have been permitted and responsibility lies almost exclusively with RBKC, with central government sharing some of the blame. Without that disastrous combination of cladding and insulation, notwithstanding the other safety deficiencies, i'm convinced the initial fire could not have spread from the flat where it started. I’m absolutely clear that it was the insulated cladding, and that alone, that allowed the fire to envelop the building as it did. You only need view video clips of the fire to see that.
BBC screened a very good documentary last week, "The Fires which Foretold Grenfell" on iplayer if you're interested; https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b ... d=b0bqjp75
The first told about "Summerland", a grotesque huge building on the Isle of Man which burst into a ball of flame killing 50 people. If you watch the documentary, this is also worth reading on Summerland. https://web.archive.org/web/20140222031 ... rland.html
It documents the lengths planners and the two architects went to to get this awful monstrosity erected with scant regard for safety.