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art0hur0moh wrote:and People think they have the necessary understanding to determine what is or isn't climate? there are these things that were invented a long time ago to help us know and understand what and why things happened so We can learn not to commit the same errors of the past. they call them books, scrolls, parchment and tablets.

McAz wrote:Limes?

MungoBrush wrote:

LordRaven wrote:What southern shore?

The island of Great Britain is tipping apparently
Scotland is rising whereas the southern coast of England is lowering.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/ ... study.html

LordRaven wrote:What southern shore?

Rolluplostinspace wrote:Henry Ford originally wanted his cars built of hemp and the engines to run on hemp oil totally environmentally friendly.
Have I already posted that?

MungoBrush wrote:Climate change has been happening since the day the earth was first formed
Surely no-one is denying that?
My understanding is that what is in dispute is the degree to which human activity has contributed to the current warming cycle, and what the potential impact could be if we continue on the current level of activity

I see that vegans are blaming farting cattle and sheep.
If that's true, then all those farting dinosaurs must have resulted in their own downfall.

art0hur0moh wrote:

LordRaven wrote:

Rolluplostinspace wrote:

LordRaven wrote:

Rolluplostinspace wrote:We had a mini ice age around 1645 and 1715 when London held what became known as the frost fairs every winter on the river Thames.
They had markets funfairs and huge bonfires on the ice of the frozen river.
What was responsible for such drastic climate change over Northern Europe?
The sun lowering its output.
Before this there had been a warming period caused by ..... increased solar output.
The last cooling period was from the early forties to the early seventies and that why I remember as a child in the fifties and sixties white winters with lots of snow ice and frost.
Lots of snowmen lots of sledging .... every family I knew had a sturdy sledge hung up that they would bring out every winter.
What caused that cooling period?
A diminished solar output.
We then entered a warming period which we are just coming to the end of right on scientific cue .... as once again the sun's output drops.
This cooling period is expected to last around thirty years and the severity or lack of cannot be guessed at.
Notice carbon emissions have nothing to do with any of this.
Notice man has no influence over it whats so ever.
It's like the sun breathes in and out when it breathes out the planet warms when it breathes in the planet cools.

The effects of a massive volcanic eruption in Peru more than 400 years ago might have significantly impacted societies and agriculture world-wide, according to a new study of historic records.

Huaynaputina erupted in southern Peru on Feb. 19, 1600, driving volcanic mudflows that destroyed villages for many miles around and spewing a huge column of smoke and ash into the atmosphere.

The eruption of Huaynaputina represents the largest known eruption in South America in the past 500 years, said study leader Ken Verosub of the University of California, Davis.

Global cooling

Like many other volcanic eruptions, Huaynaputina injected a large amount of sulfur into the atmosphere. Sulfur reacts with water in the air to form sulfuric acid droplets, which reflect some of the sunlight hitting Earth, preventing rays from reaching the surface. The reduction in sunlight cools the surface for a year or so, until the droplets fall out of the atmosphere.

The most recent case of this cooling from a volcanic eruption occurred when Mount Pinatubo, in the Philippines, blew its top in 1991. Global temperatures dropped by about 1 degree Fahrenheit (0.5 degrees Celsius) the following year. (Scientists have proposed schemes to artificially inject sulfur into the atmosphere to counteract the effects of global warming.)

https://www.livescience.com/4912-volcan ... gests.html

Yes volcanic activity and earthquakes do tend to put man in his place.
Few scientists can predict where all this is leading.
A lot of ice melt on Greenland over the last few years is causing huge earthquakes which in turn cause other problems like tsunamis and just the sheer weight of the calving of icebergs also causes tsunamis.
The earthquakes may yet trigger more volcanic adding to global cooling.
A big problem with the carbon we have already put into the atmosphere is it will be there for thousands of years so cutting emissions probably won't have much impact on climate change ... on pollution yes but climate change probably not.

Giant earthquakes are shaking Greenland — and scientists just figured out the disturbing reason why
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/ene ... f06240859b

I read about Greenland rising because the sheer volume of ice that has depressed its land mass for eons is melting and there are rivers of meltwater underneath the ice as it melts faster and faster.

That is the very reason We have Earth quakes in scotland. the ice depressed the land north and rose lime stone cliffs on the southern shore.

Guest wrote:Its a propaganda term. Climate change deniers. No one doubts the climate changes as it has always done since before man kind. The man made aspect is what i do not fully accept. Plys the ludicrous claims that if we dont stop driving cars by next year its too late irreversible damage is done. They ce been saying that for years.

Having said that mankind does need to adopt less wasteful and efficient energy sources. Air pollution and plastic in seas etc is just down to laziness as a species and we should be ashamed of ourselves due to that.

LordRaven wrote:

Rolluplostinspace wrote:

LordRaven wrote:

Rolluplostinspace wrote:We had a mini ice age around 1645 and 1715 when London held what became known as the frost fairs every winter on the river Thames.
They had markets funfairs and huge bonfires on the ice of the frozen river.
What was responsible for such drastic climate change over Northern Europe?
The sun lowering its output.
Before this there had been a warming period caused by ..... increased solar output.
The last cooling period was from the early forties to the early seventies and that why I remember as a child in the fifties and sixties white winters with lots of snow ice and frost.
Lots of snowmen lots of sledging .... every family I knew had a sturdy sledge hung up that they would bring out every winter.
What caused that cooling period?
A diminished solar output.
We then entered a warming period which we are just coming to the end of right on scientific cue .... as once again the sun's output drops.
This cooling period is expected to last around thirty years and the severity or lack of cannot be guessed at.
Notice carbon emissions have nothing to do with any of this.
Notice man has no influence over it whats so ever.
It's like the sun breathes in and out when it breathes out the planet warms when it breathes in the planet cools.

The effects of a massive volcanic eruption in Peru more than 400 years ago might have significantly impacted societies and agriculture world-wide, according to a new study of historic records.

Huaynaputina erupted in southern Peru on Feb. 19, 1600, driving volcanic mudflows that destroyed villages for many miles around and spewing a huge column of smoke and ash into the atmosphere.

The eruption of Huaynaputina represents the largest known eruption in South America in the past 500 years, said study leader Ken Verosub of the University of California, Davis.

Global cooling

Like many other volcanic eruptions, Huaynaputina injected a large amount of sulfur into the atmosphere. Sulfur reacts with water in the air to form sulfuric acid droplets, which reflect some of the sunlight hitting Earth, preventing rays from reaching the surface. The reduction in sunlight cools the surface for a year or so, until the droplets fall out of the atmosphere.

The most recent case of this cooling from a volcanic eruption occurred when Mount Pinatubo, in the Philippines, blew its top in 1991. Global temperatures dropped by about 1 degree Fahrenheit (0.5 degrees Celsius) the following year. (Scientists have proposed schemes to artificially inject sulfur into the atmosphere to counteract the effects of global warming.)

https://www.livescience.com/4912-volcan ... gests.html

Yes volcanic activity and earthquakes do tend to put man in his place.
Few scientists can predict where all this is leading.
A lot of ice melt on Greenland over the last few years is causing huge earthquakes which in turn cause other problems like tsunamis and just the sheer weight of the calving of icebergs also causes tsunamis.
The earthquakes may yet trigger more volcanic adding to global cooling.
A big problem with the carbon we have already put into the atmosphere is it will be there for thousands of years so cutting emissions probably won't have much impact on climate change ... on pollution yes but climate change probably not.

Giant earthquakes are shaking Greenland — and scientists just figured out the disturbing reason why
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/ene ... f06240859b

I read about Greenland rising because the sheer volume of ice that has depressed its land mass for eons is melting and there are rivers of meltwater underneath the ice as it melts faster and faster.