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LordRaven wrote:

Cannydc wrote:

Fletch wrote:

Cannydc wrote:
It's a simple system, using Occam's Razor as a basis. If you have plausible deniability issues for ONE attack, fine. Three hundred is a tad more difficult.

So difficult in fact, that I suspect that the odds are very much against that one attack being deniable too. Therefore I play the odds.

What are the odds on you documenting/linking to 300 chemical weapon attacks canny?

About the same as you linking to proof that even half of them didn't happen.

It is good of you to pander to the CT/Fake News hysterical twat Canny.

I can't be arsed to even look at the dross he posts let alone read it.

Cannydc wrote:

Fletch wrote:

Cannydc wrote:
It's a simple system, using Occam's Razor as a basis. If you have plausible deniability issues for ONE attack, fine. Three hundred is a tad more difficult.

So difficult in fact, that I suspect that the odds are very much against that one attack being deniable too. Therefore I play the odds.

What are the odds on you documenting/linking to 300 chemical weapon attacks canny?

About the same as you linking to proof that even half of them didn't happen.

Fletch wrote:

Cannydc wrote:
It's a simple system, using Occam's Razor as a basis. If you have plausible deniability issues for ONE attack, fine. Three hundred is a tad more difficult.

So difficult in fact, that I suspect that the odds are very much against that one attack being deniable too. Therefore I play the odds.

What are the odds on you documenting/linking to 300 chemical weapon attacks canny?

Cannydc wrote:
It's a simple system, using Occam's Razor as a basis. If you have plausible deniability issues for ONE attack, fine. Three hundred is a tad more difficult.

So difficult in fact, that I suspect that the odds are very much against that one attack being deniable too. Therefore I play the odds.

Cannydc wrote:

Fletch wrote:

Cannydc wrote:

There have been something like 300 chemical attacks in Syria since 2012, and there can be no doubt that the overwhelming majority of them have been carried out by the same forces that have been dropping barrel-bombs, cluster bombs, napalm, and plain old HE, on Syrian civilians for 8 years.

I think that would be my starter for ten, as far as the truth is concerned,

As for Ian Henderson and his note (his word) titled “Engineering Assessment of two cylinders observed at the Douma incident” I think much caution should be placed on his 'conclusions'.

Much reading here;

http://claysbeach.blogspot.com/2019/06/ ... d-his.html

http://claysbeach.blogspot.com/2019/06/ ... on-or.html

http://claysbeach.blogspot.com/2019/06/ ... erson.html

Wow canny, really? You really do just google for opposite views and post them on here as facts, don't you. A blog called Linux Beach and a bloke called Clay beach?

How did you come across that blog canny?

You ignore all the other links in this thread, including the emails themselves, and even Peter Hitchens who actually travelled to a foreign country and met with OPCW members to view actual documentation in favour of a blog from a guy named Clay beach?

As The OPCW Is Accused Of False Reporting U.S. Propaganda Jumps To Its Help

An international organization published two false reports and got caught in the act. But as the false reports are in the U.S. interests a U.S. sponsored propaganda organization is send out to muddle the issue. As that effort comes under fire the New York Times jumps in to give the cover-up effort some extra help.

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/12/a ... -help.html

It's a simple system, using Occam's Razor as a basis. If you have plausible deniability issues for ONE attack, fine. Three hundred is a tad more difficult.

So difficult in fact, that I suspect that the odds are very much against that one attack being deniable too. Therefore I play the odds.

So, next step is look at the 'note' author. And guess what ? Yep, he fits right in there with the rest of your CT lovin', Russian sympathising, Fake News spreadin' sites.

And in the end it seems eminently sensible to recommend caution regarding the outpourings of Mr Ian Henderson. At which point you chuck yet another wobbly.

That's how it works Fletch. Of course, it's just as easy to just chuck everything you post into File 13, but I have plenty of time on my hands.

Fletch wrote:

Cannydc wrote:

There have been something like 300 chemical attacks in Syria since 2012, and there can be no doubt that the overwhelming majority of them have been carried out by the same forces that have been dropping barrel-bombs, cluster bombs, napalm, and plain old HE, on Syrian civilians for 8 years.

I think that would be my starter for ten, as far as the truth is concerned,

As for Ian Henderson and his note (his word) titled “Engineering Assessment of two cylinders observed at the Douma incident” I think much caution should be placed on his 'conclusions'.

Much reading here;

http://claysbeach.blogspot.com/2019/06/ ... d-his.html

http://claysbeach.blogspot.com/2019/06/ ... on-or.html

http://claysbeach.blogspot.com/2019/06/ ... erson.html

Wow canny, really? You really do just google for opposite views and post them on here as facts, don't you. A blog called Linux Beach and a bloke called Clay beach?

How did you come across that blog canny?

You ignore all the other links in this thread, including the emails themselves, and even Peter Hitchens who actually travelled to a foreign country and met with OPCW members to view actual documentation in favour of a blog from a guy named Clay beach?

As The OPCW Is Accused Of False Reporting U.S. Propaganda Jumps To Its Help

An international organization published two false reports and got caught in the act. But as the false reports are in the U.S. interests a U.S. sponsored propaganda organization is send out to muddle the issue. As that effort comes under fire the New York Times jumps in to give the cover-up effort some extra help.

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/12/a ... -help.html

Cannydc wrote:

There have been something like 300 chemical attacks in Syria since 2012, and there can be no doubt that the overwhelming majority of them have been carried out by the same forces that have been dropping barrel-bombs, cluster bombs, napalm, and plain old HE, on Syrian civilians for 8 years.

I think that would be my starter for ten, as far as the truth is concerned,

As for Ian Henderson and his note (his word) titled “Engineering Assessment of two cylinders observed at the Douma incident” I think much caution should be placed on his 'conclusions'.

Much reading here;

http://claysbeach.blogspot.com/2019/06/ ... d-his.html

http://claysbeach.blogspot.com/2019/06/ ... on-or.html

http://claysbeach.blogspot.com/2019/06/ ... erson.html

There have been something like 300 chemical attacks in Syria since 2012, and there can be no doubt that the overwhelming majority of them have been carried out by the same forces that have been dropping barrel-bombs, cluster bombs, napalm, and plain old HE, on Syrian civilians for 8 years.

Rolluplostinspace wrote:So the MSM is outed yet again but no apologies for Fletch.
Whenever it comes out that MSM is untrustworthy on everything except cat got stuck up tree stories it's just the edge being curled up a little.
Carry on wallowing in the bullshit folks especially Lordy with his Russia crap

My source calmly showed me various pieces of evidence that they were who they said they were, and knew what they claimed to know, making it clear that they worked for the OPCW and knew its inner workings. They then revealed a document to me.

This was the email of protest, sent to senior OPCW officials, saying that a report on the alleged Syrian poison gas attack in Douma, in April 2018, had been savagely censored so as to alter its meaning.

In decades of journalism I have received quite a few leaks: leaks over luxurious, expensive lunches with Cabinet Ministers, anonymous leaks that just turned up in envelopes, leaks from union officials and employers, diplomats and academics.

But I’ve never seen one like this. It scared me. If it was true, then something hugely dishonest and dangerous was going on, in a place where absolute integrity was vital.

With regards to the revelations about the OPCW management manipulation of its staff reports the former UN weapon inspector Scott Ritter makes a very valid point:

Thanks to an explosive internal memo, there is no reason to believe the claims put forward by the Syrian opposition that President Bashar al-Assad’s government used chemical weapons against innocent civilians in Douma back in April. This is a scenario I have questioned from the beginning. It also calls into question all the other conclusions and reports by the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW), which was assigned in 2014 “to establish facts surrounding allegations of the use of toxic chemicals, reportedly chlorine, for hostile purposes in the Syrian Arab Republic.”

Besides its activities around dubious 'chemical' incident in Syria there is another rather famous case in which the OPCW got involved: The alleged 'Novichok' attack on Sergei and Julia Skripal in Salisbury, Britain.

Fletch wrote:Well, Peter Hitchens covered it but the rest of the msm, well guess...

New sexed-up dossier furore: Explosive leaked email claims that UN watchdog's report into alleged poison gas attack by Assad was doctored - so was it to justify British and American missile strikes on Syria?