Britain's Early Big Freeze

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Re: Britain's Early Big Freeze

Post by Stooo » Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:40 pm

Cannydc wrote:
Stooo wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:
Stooo wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:You mean "vale".


It was in my younger days...


We were all a lot younger then. :gigglesnshit:


We're not much wiser :mrgreen:


"Oh, my friend we're older but no wiser
For in our hearts the dreams are still the same"


I like that!

Re: Britain's Early Big Freeze

Post by Cannydc » Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:39 pm

Stooo wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:
Stooo wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:You mean "vale".


It was in my younger days...


We were all a lot younger then. :gigglesnshit:


We're not much wiser :mrgreen:


"Oh, my friend we're older but no wiser
For in our hearts the dreams are still the same"

Re: Britain's Early Big Freeze

Post by Stooo » Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:35 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Stooo wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:You mean "vale".


It was in my younger days...


We were all a lot younger then. :gigglesnshit:


We're not much wiser :mrgreen:

Re: Britain's Early Big Freeze

Post by Raggamuffin » Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:33 pm

Stooo wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:You mean "vale".


It was in my younger days...


We were all a lot younger then. :gigglesnshit:

Re: Britain's Early Big Freeze

Post by Stooo » Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:31 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:You mean "vale".


It was in my younger days...

Re: Britain's Early Big Freeze

Post by Raggamuffin » Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:29 pm

Stooo wrote:
Babycheeks wrote:
Stooo wrote:
And our winters aren't that cold. There are seasons for when people pass away and it's not really reliant on the weather.

Social factors seem more prevalent and of course the flu season is significant.


Is it just hype that more old people die in cold winters?


People die after Christmas, they hold on for their own reasons and simply stop trying after. A last Christmas with people you love around you is something to live for, a bleak February when you're ill, tired and ready to depart this veil of tears doesn't seem like an aspiration of sorts. Sometimes people simply give up.

The majority of deaths are in nursing homes and palliative care units in Hospitals, very few people die alone at home nowadays. They die when they are ready in the care of others.


You mean "vale".

Re: Britain's Early Big Freeze

Post by Stooo » Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:27 pm

2011?

Re: Britain's Early Big Freeze

Post by Cannydc » Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:24 pm

Stooo wrote:
Babycheeks wrote:
I know it's inevitable but dying unhappy seems worse somehow.


Screaming in agony when you're in charge of your opium pump makes death a welcome release.


My old ma died with enough morphine in her to render her unconscious. In fact, as it inhibits breathing, in all likelihood it delivered the coup de grace.

And to be brutally honest, it was a blessed relief, including probably to her.

Cancer is a real bitch and no mistake.

Re: Britain's Early Big Freeze

Post by Raggamuffin » Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:21 pm

:ooer:

Re: Britain's Early Big Freeze

Post by Cactus Jack » Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:09 pm

Claire wrote:We've not always had central heating you know. I live in a house which is around 113 years old. It's a bugger to heat. Our gas costs us around £50 per week in the winter and the house is still cold! People have lived here with no heating. I doubt very much that they all died of the cold.

It seems unlikely I'll grant

Re: Britain's Early Big Freeze

Post by Claire » Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:13 am

We've not always had central heating you know. I live in a house which is around 113 years old. It's a bugger to heat. Our gas costs us around £50 per week in the winter and the house is still cold! People have lived here with no heating. I doubt very much that they all died of the cold.

Re: Britain's Early Big Freeze

Post by Teasmade » Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:53 am

Babycheeks wrote:
Stooo wrote:
And our winters aren't that cold. There are seasons for when people pass away and it's not really reliant on the weather.

Social factors seem more prevalent and of course the flu season is significant.


Is it just hype that more old people die in cold winters?


Winter is the time of year when lots of medical conditions kick in and general health can worsen. You find a lot of people suffer more with things like chest infections, bronchitis and other lung and heart conditions which are aggravated by the cold and dampness in the atmosphere.

Re: Britain's Early Big Freeze

Post by Stooo » Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:39 pm

Guest wrote:

Dylan Thomas
Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
Because their words had forked no lightning they
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

And you, my father, there on the sad height,
Curse, bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Youre's is better stooo


I'd rather pass in peace than in anger. Why rage when one is at peace?

Thomas appears angry towards the death of his father but to what end? It is better to dance with Death.

Thanks for posting that poem.

Re: Britain's Early Big Freeze

Post by Guest » Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:21 pm

Stooo wrote:
Snuffleupagus wrote:
Stooo wrote:
Babycheeks wrote:
Stooo wrote:
I don't see it as sad, it's our final inevitable journey. We all have to die and it seems to be when we have had enough of living, that's why early deaths due to accidents and other outside factors are so difficult to come to terms with.


I say it's sad because they hold on during christmas when close people are around them but then give up afterwards because they're lonely.


They give up because they're tired and have had enough. There are some isolated stories in the press about neglect but these are in the vast minority. Most people go gently into that dark night.


What a beautiful phrase.


Thank you, I remembered it from somewhere and it seemed fitting.



Dylan Thomas
Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
Because their words had forked no lightning they
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

And you, my father, there on the sad height,
Curse, bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Youre's is better stooo

Re: Britain's Early Big Freeze

Post by Lady Murasaki » Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:21 pm

Stooo wrote:
Babycheeks wrote:
I know it's inevitable but dying unhappy seems worse somehow.


Screaming in agony when you're in charge of your opium pump makes death a welcome release.


I'd prefer to pop my clogs in the middle of a party! :Wiiiine!:

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