by NastyNickers » Sat May 27, 2017 10:22 pm
Axtol wrote:
No. Some information could prove useful to terrorists, but I've repeatedly said they shouldn't release that sort of information. But it's ridiculous to say that ANY kind of information they release would be useful to those who want to harm us. That's just paranoia, and secrecy for the sake of secrecy. And I find it sort of feels like hypocrisy that the police and security services want so much secrecy, when they go around telling us "If you have done nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear". If you trust their word, it gives them the opportunity to abuse that power. Not saying that they WILL necessarily abuse it, but without public oversight and accountability, the opportunity is there.
The authorities just seem obsessed with secrecy as a matter of routine, even when there might not be any specific reason for it. Look at the so called "leaks" by the American press. I just saw that as journalists doing their job by reporting on the facts. It's in the public interest for us to know how an investigation into such a brutal attack against our country is proceeding. And they didn't report any sensitive information, they didn't tip the terrorists off to anything they wouldn't have already known. I got the impression that the authorities seem to like being the ones who know all the facts of a case when the public don't. Their anger at the US press seemed to me just to be them being jealous that the public were getting more information about the case from somewhere other than them.
Surely paranoia best describes believing the information is being kept from us because the police want to abuse their power or are making it all up to blag a bigger budget.
Why would the majority of the public need to know any of the information or see any of the images released by the US press in an ongoing terror investigation? We don't. We don't need to see a photo of a detonator, especially so soon. The victims had barely been identified and next of kin told, and the US is leaking out details like a fucking colander.
If Mark Rowley says that 5 plots have been foiled, I'd think "Fucking hell, it's relentless". If Mark Rowley told me 5 terror plots had been foiled and went into details, I'd still think "Fucking hell, its relentless". I'm not sure what they could release that could be classed as 'proof'?
[quote="Axtol"]
No. Some information could prove useful to terrorists, but I've repeatedly said they shouldn't release that sort of information. But it's ridiculous to say that ANY kind of information they release would be useful to those who want to harm us. That's just paranoia, and secrecy for the sake of secrecy. And I find it sort of feels like hypocrisy that the police and security services want so much secrecy, when they go around telling us "If you have done nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear". If you trust their word, it gives them the opportunity to abuse that power. Not saying that they WILL necessarily abuse it, but without public oversight and accountability, the opportunity is there.
The authorities just seem obsessed with secrecy as a matter of routine, even when there might not be any specific reason for it. Look at the so called "leaks" by the American press. I just saw that as journalists doing their job by reporting on the facts. It's in the public interest for us to know how an investigation into such a brutal attack against our country is proceeding. And they didn't report any sensitive information, they didn't tip the terrorists off to anything they wouldn't have already known. I got the impression that the authorities seem to like being the ones who know all the facts of a case when the public don't. Their anger at the US press seemed to me just to be them being jealous that the public were getting more information about the case from somewhere other than them.[/quote]
Surely paranoia best describes believing the information is being kept from us because the police want to abuse their power or are making it all up to blag a bigger budget.
Why would the majority of the public need to know any of the information or see any of the images released by the US press in an ongoing terror investigation? We don't. We don't need to see a photo of a detonator, especially so soon. The victims had barely been identified and next of kin told, and the US is leaking out details like a fucking colander.
If Mark Rowley says that 5 plots have been foiled, I'd think "Fucking hell, it's relentless". If Mark Rowley told me 5 terror plots had been foiled and went into details, I'd still think "Fucking hell, its relentless". I'm not sure what they could release that could be classed as 'proof'?