by NastyNickers » Thu May 03, 2018 11:33 pm
Guest wrote:NastyNickers wrote:Guest wrote:I agree with NN, you have to put the work in with creative stuff, sometimes you get inspired other times you have to really drag the work out of yourself, whether it be art/writing/music/ whatever. You have to commit time and effort to it, you have to be willing to fail and get it wrong as you learn the processes and techniques which make manifest that which is in your imagination. No one is going to do your art for you, you have to do it for yourself.
This! You expanded and made my point much better.
I think that pushing yourself is hard sometimes. When I uploaded the dirty pour I didn’t expect the response I got. It’s a new way of using the medium for me and I’m struggling to do what I envision. I liked the pour but I expected everyone else to just see a aplodge.
It was actually a mistake too. I’d been doing something else and had paint left over, so scraped it all into a cup and used a white tile I had in the shed. There wasn’t enough paint to fill the tile, and I didn’t prep the surface at all.
But anyway. I’m feeling a bit deflated because I’m struggling with the new mediums. I get frustrated and lose motivation. But I either do nothing and never get my mojo back, or work on it, even if it does make me feel like shit.
/waffle
I love it when something happens by fluke or accident (although the fluke or accident only has the opportunity to occur when you have put all the work in!!).
Don't be deflated!! Remember when we start with a new medium or expand out of out comfort zones it's like starting from scratch all over again. If you are used to drawing/painting with a particular medium when you try with something new you go back to square one again. You are in effect a novice with that tool (although of course you have other transferable skills which make the learning process quicker). I think we forget that. It doesn't matter if it's changing from watercolour to oils, a picking up a new instrument to the one you have always played or getting a new lens on a camera, you have to learn that equipment. It can be a bit weird feeling like a beginner all over again, but i think that the process of learning the new technique or tool often informs the skills you already have.
you are just in the phase where it feels like getting blood out of a stone trying to make the medium do what you want. Have faith! In time you will learn its mysterious ways!
Do check out the marbled end papers. I think their technique (as far as i remember ) was to have a tray of water and to float oil on top swirling them to get the pattern they required then laying the paper on the surface of the paint coloured water. There's bound to be more accurate instructions onlne somewhere!! Some of them are fabulous, but i think they will inspire you to play....which is sometimes a way in when we are a bit lost. I've been really inspired recently but the work of the artists like Talwyn Morris and the designs of book jackets he did over a hundred years ago, they are exquisite and timelessly elegant.
Hope you have fun playing!! Don't get downhearted this too will pass!
Thanks Guester! It’s a bloody slog. You forget how much hard work goes into learning. I mean, I always learn and improve and see room for improvement, I never finish anything and think “yes, perfect”.
But you get used to a being able to manipulate and predict and solve. Losing that is like having your safety net whipped out from under you. I find it difficult not knowing what went wrong.
I will have a look at the marbling. I wonder if alcohol inks would get the same kind of result. I sense some playing in my future!
I should probably post in here more. I’m feeling more inspired than I have in ages.
[quote="Guest"][quote="NastyNickers"][quote="Guest"]I agree with NN, you have to put the work in with creative stuff, sometimes you get inspired other times you have to really drag the work out of yourself, whether it be art/writing/music/ whatever. You have to commit time and effort to it, you have to be willing to fail and get it wrong as you learn the processes and techniques which make manifest that which is in your imagination. No one is going to do your art for you, you have to do it for yourself.[/quote]
This! You expanded and made my point much better.
I think that pushing yourself is hard sometimes. When I uploaded the dirty pour I didn’t expect the response I got. It’s a new way of using the medium for me and I’m struggling to do what I envision. I liked the pour but I expected everyone else to just see a aplodge.
It was actually a mistake too. I’d been doing something else and had paint left over, so scraped it all into a cup and used a white tile I had in the shed. There wasn’t enough paint to fill the tile, and I didn’t prep the surface at all.
But anyway. I’m feeling a bit deflated because I’m struggling with the new mediums. I get frustrated and lose motivation. But I either do nothing and never get my mojo back, or work on it, even if it does make me feel like shit.
/waffle
:gigglesnshit:[/quote]
I love it when something happens by fluke or accident (although the fluke or accident only has the opportunity to occur when you have put all the work in!!).
Don't be deflated!! Remember when we start with a new medium or expand out of out comfort zones it's like starting from scratch all over again. If you are used to drawing/painting with a particular medium when you try with something new you go back to square one again. You are in effect a novice with that tool (although of course you have other transferable skills which make the learning process quicker). I think we forget that. It doesn't matter if it's changing from watercolour to oils, a picking up a new instrument to the one you have always played or getting a new lens on a camera, you have to learn that equipment. It can be a bit weird feeling like a beginner all over again, but i think that the process of learning the new technique or tool often informs the skills you already have.
you are just in the phase where it feels like getting blood out of a stone trying to make the medium do what you want. Have faith! In time you will learn its mysterious ways!
Do check out the marbled end papers. I think their technique (as far as i remember ) was to have a tray of water and to float oil on top swirling them to get the pattern they required then laying the paper on the surface of the paint coloured water. There's bound to be more accurate instructions onlne somewhere!! Some of them are fabulous, but i think they will inspire you to play....which is sometimes a way in when we are a bit lost. I've been really inspired recently but the work of the artists like Talwyn Morris and the designs of book jackets he did over a hundred years ago, they are exquisite and timelessly elegant.
Hope you have fun playing!! Don't get downhearted this too will pass![/quote]
Thanks Guester! It’s a bloody slog. You forget how much hard work goes into learning. I mean, I always learn and improve and see room for improvement, I never finish anything and think “yes, perfect”.
But you get used to a being able to manipulate and predict and solve. Losing that is like having your safety net whipped out from under you. I find it difficult not knowing what went wrong.
I will have a look at the marbling. I wonder if alcohol inks would get the same kind of result. I sense some playing in my future!
I should probably post in here more. I’m feeling more inspired than I have in ages.