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Trapper John wrote:

Punk wrote:

Trapper John wrote:

measurer wrote:It's in England, just up from Sellafield. lol

Talking of Sellafield, I had a younger cousin born to my mum's sister. They lived in Cumbria at the time, home of her husband and lived about 10 miles from Sellafield, it was known as 'Windscale' at the time.

It did then much as it does now, reprocesses and stores nuclear waste. This cousin died of cot death syndrome at about 6 months I think, at the time very little was known about and it certainly wasn't in the wider public knowledge as it is today.

His death conincided with a 'containment leak' a few months earlier, it was publicised but 'Windscale' had several over the years, probably why they changed it's name, it conjured up bad thoughts. Anyway these leaks were all 'non life threatening' we were told but it didn't stop my aunt and my mum blaming his death on Windscale because the autopsy found no obvious reason for his death.

Today they are called cot deaths and happen to kids wherever they live, but Windscale will always be blamed by them and anyone else in similar circumstances, when there appears to be an obvious monster to point a finger at.

Any ideas why child cancer and leukemia cases are off the scale near Sellafield compared to the rest of the UK? There must be one reason.

Interesting that you bring that up. Instances of childhood leukemia appeared to be 10 fold higher amongst those living near Sellafield (Seascale) and Dounreay nuclear plants, with clusters numbering a dozen or so children in close proximity. This initiated an Independent Advisory Group to investigate which began it's work back in 1984.

Basically, after 30 years of investigation and blaming then unblaming many different sources they found that 'cluster cases' of leukemia appear around the world even when no external source of radiation is present.

At one time they believed that the children were likely to have contracted leukemia before birth from their fathers who worked at the plants, some still do, because there is no evidence of higher than normal background radiation in the two areas.

Like I said, because there is a monster to point a finger at, doesn't necessarily mean it's responsible. There are no 'new cluster cases' now in those areas, by the way.

Punk wrote:

Trapper John wrote:

measurer wrote:It's in England, just up from Sellafield. lol

Talking of Sellafield, I had a younger cousin born to my mum's sister. They lived in Cumbria at the time, home of her husband and lived about 10 miles from Sellafield, it was known as 'Windscale' at the time.

It did then much as it does now, reprocesses and stores nuclear waste. This cousin died of cot death syndrome at about 6 months I think, at the time very little was known about and it certainly wasn't in the wider public knowledge as it is today.

His death conincided with a 'containment leak' a few months earlier, it was publicised but 'Windscale' had several over the years, probably why they changed it's name, it conjured up bad thoughts. Anyway these leaks were all 'non life threatening' we were told but it didn't stop my aunt and my mum blaming his death on Windscale because the autopsy found no obvious reason for his death.

Today they are called cot deaths and happen to kids wherever they live, but Windscale will always be blamed by them and anyone else in similar circumstances, when there appears to be an obvious monster to point a finger at.

Any ideas why child cancer and leukemia cases are off the scale near Sellafield compared to the rest of the UK? There must be one reason.

Trapper John wrote:

measurer wrote:It's in England, just up from Sellafield. lol

Talking of Sellafield, I had a younger cousin born to my mum's sister. They lived in Cumbria at the time, home of her husband and lived about 10 miles from Sellafield, it was known as 'Windscale' at the time.

It did then much as it does now, reprocesses and stores nuclear waste. This cousin died of cot death syndrome at about 6 months I think, at the time very little was known about and it certainly wasn't in the wider public knowledge as it is today.

His death conincided with a 'containment leak' a few months earlier, it was publicised but 'Windscale' had several over the years, probably why they changed it's name, it conjured up bad thoughts. Anyway these leaks were all 'non life threatening' we were told but it didn't stop my aunt and my mum blaming his death on Windscale because the autopsy found no obvious reason for his death.

Today they are called cot deaths and happen to kids wherever they live, but Windscale will always be blamed by them and anyone else in similar circumstances, when there appears to be an obvious monster to point a finger at.

measurer wrote:It's in England, just up from Sellafield. lol

measurer wrote:

Trapper John wrote:

measurer wrote:Getting to eat 3 headed fish is my dream! I'm moving!!

You see now that is an example of just how deeply ingrained the anti nuclear lobby have made their propaganda. There has never a monsterously mutated anything except those that occur naturally in nature.

You've never had a fish supper in Silloth!

Trapper John wrote:

measurer wrote:Getting to eat 3 headed fish is my dream! I'm moving!!

You see now that is an example of just how deeply ingrained the anti nuclear lobby have made their propaganda. There has never a monsterously mutated anything except those that occur naturally in nature.

Trapper John wrote:

Guest wrote:

Trapper John wrote:

Lady Murasaki wrote:I suppose it's all a bit early days, comparatively. The mistakes/disasters have to be taken seriously and monitored before governments commit to nuclear energy production in a bigger way. The public need to feel reassured, and that will take years of tests etc.

I read an article the other day by a group of physicists which stated that everybody on Earth was affected by the radiation fallout from Fukushima, yet here we are all still alive and reading no more than normal background radaition.

i think it's 1 of those situations where nuclear is the only viable long term option but no-one wants to live by a nuclear plant or in the fall-out range.

Thats true but then many of the workers at the plants live close by, they will know the dangers or not better than most people. In fact I read an article about Dungeness B being given an extension of life for another ten years and the local people were ecstatic.

I wonder if someone said to you, here's a house it's half the price of a comparable one anywhere else in the country, would you buy it? I reckon a lot would, personal circumstances permitting.

The paradox of living near a nuclear plant is, it's probably one of the safest places to be because it and the surrounding areas are constantly checked and monitored. I have never heard of a nuclear power station working normally where radiation levels are any higher than they are anywhere else. It's all food for thought.

measurer wrote:Getting to eat 3 headed fish is my dream! I'm moving!!

Guest wrote:

Trapper John wrote:

Lady Murasaki wrote:I suppose it's all a bit early days, comparatively. The mistakes/disasters have to be taken seriously and monitored before governments commit to nuclear energy production in a bigger way. The public need to feel reassured, and that will take years of tests etc.

I read an article the other day by a group of physicists which stated that everybody on Earth was affected by the radiation fallout from Fukushima, yet here we are all still alive and reading no more than normal background radaition.

i think it's 1 of those situations where nuclear is the only viable long term option but no-one wants to live by a nuclear plant or in the fall-out range.

Trapper John wrote:

Lady Murasaki wrote:I suppose it's all a bit early days, comparatively. The mistakes/disasters have to be taken seriously and monitored before governments commit to nuclear energy production in a bigger way. The public need to feel reassured, and that will take years of tests etc.

I read an article the other day by a group of physicists which stated that everybody on Earth was affected by the radiation fallout from Fukushima, yet here we are all still alive and reading no more than normal background radaition.