by Stooo » Thu May 03, 2018 6:17 pm
Trapper John wrote:Lady Murasaki wrote:Right ok, I wasn’t including all the taxes and NI contributions.
You’re not exactly alone though.
Why, after having contributed so much, do you have more ire towards immigrants (who also pay their taxes) than towards those who are rich enough but dodge taxes/ have offshore accounts etc?
Firstly, I don't favour tax dodgers full stop. Secondly, I have no truck with immigrants who pay their way and pay their taxes. Unfortunately, contrary to popular belief amongst your lot, most immigrants don't contribute to our economy. Some do, the higher paid professionals do, they are not in the majority.
I don't know how many more times I have to explain it but paying £1 in tax and national insurance contributes nothing if you are taking £3 back out in tax credits and benefits, its simple arithmatic. Highly paid immigrants are also less likely to be a drain on the services most ordinary people use like say the NHS whereas those non contributing ones are likely to be more of a drain on our services than are ordinary people.
When next you hear someone say that immigrants contribute more to the economy than they take out, get them to break it down they can't or won't because they are all lumped together - if in fact they have any real figures at all.
To simplify it further you go out on night out team handed, your rich mate is paying for everything coz the rest of you are skint. When someone says look after that lot they are loaded - in reality, would that be true or false?
The jury's out...
https://fullfact.org/immigration/do-eu- ... y-receive/
[quote="Trapper John"][quote="Lady Murasaki"]Right ok, I wasn’t including all the taxes and NI contributions.
You’re not exactly alone though.
Why, after having contributed so much, do you have more ire towards immigrants (who also pay their taxes) than towards those who are rich enough but dodge taxes/ have offshore accounts etc?[/quote]
Firstly, I don't favour tax dodgers full stop. Secondly, I have no truck with immigrants who pay their way and pay their taxes. Unfortunately, contrary to popular belief amongst your lot, most immigrants don't contribute to our economy. Some do, the higher paid professionals do, they are not in the majority.
I don't know how many more times I have to explain it but paying £1 in tax and national insurance contributes nothing if you are taking £3 back out in tax credits and benefits, its simple arithmatic. Highly paid immigrants are also less likely to be a drain on the services most ordinary people use like say the NHS whereas those non contributing ones are likely to be more of a drain on our services than are ordinary people.
When next you hear someone say that immigrants contribute more to the economy than they take out, get them to break it down they can't or won't because they are all lumped together - if in fact they have any real figures at all.
To simplify it further you go out on night out team handed, your rich mate is paying for everything coz the rest of you are skint. When someone says look after that lot they are loaded - in reality, would that be true or false?[/quote]
The jury's out...
https://fullfact.org/immigration/do-eu-immigrants-contribute-134-every-1-they-receive/