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Re: Judge says man having sex with wife is a human right

Post by Guest » Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:24 pm

xtras1 wrote:
Guest wrote:
McHenry wrote:
xtras1 wrote:
Guest wrote:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/ ... -sentence/

His parents sounded as vile as he was.



Can't believe what I have just read .. the father's statement the judges statement! What kind of message does that send out. .. I don't think judges particularly male ones should hold court when it comes to rape.. they seem to feel the attacker is the victim.

Rape trials should be co-judged by a male and female.

Disagree. I think the gender is irrelevant. A decent judge will appreciate that rape is a heinous crime and that the effects of which, on the victim, are long lasting and long reaching and as such that should be reflected in a decent sentence across the board.

The effect of jail on a rapist shouldn't even come into the equation.


Yes when you put it like that.... I was being unintentionally sexist, just annoyed at the sentence & the judges comments.


Pitiful sentencing and disgraceful comments from the judge I agree. Not looking at anything from the victim's side, the meager sentence being further proof. In a parallel world I would have liked to have seen how a decent judge would have handled the case - pound to a penny this sexual predator's sorry arse would still behind bars. As it is he got a slap on the wrists and still him and his family complain.

Re: Judge says man having sex with wife is a human right

Post by xtras1 » Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:56 pm

Guest wrote:
xtras1 wrote:
Guest wrote:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/ ... -sentence/

His parents sounded as vile as he was.



Can't believe what I have just read .. the father's statement the judges statement! What kind of message does that send out. .. I don't think judges particularly male ones should hold court when it comes to rape.. they seem to feel the attacker is the victim.

Nothing positive for the victims that's for sure and some still wonder why rape victims are reluctant to come forward.

The scrote even had the temerity to appeal his conviction due to lack of evidence and that he only wanted 'outercourse' even citing he got an unfair trial. Seems him and his legal team didn't merit the eye-witnesses accounts.



Good points.

Re: Judge says man having sex with wife is a human right

Post by xtras1 » Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:54 pm

Cleopatra wrote:
xtras1 wrote:Interesting Cleopatra..



Jury service was traumatic :shake head:

I pray to God I'm never in the position of having to be judged by twelve of my "peers". The level of sheer ignorance of how to apply the law to evidence, the inability to understand the judge's directions. It was an ordeal having to listen to the gruelling evidence, but then to have to sit with ignoramus's battling it out for hours.

I'm still not over it.


Oh Cleopatra seems awful, what an awful situation for you.

Re: Judge says man having sex with wife is a human right

Post by xtras1 » Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:52 pm

Guest wrote:
McHenry wrote:
xtras1 wrote:
Guest wrote:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/ ... -sentence/

His parents sounded as vile as he was.



Can't believe what I have just read .. the father's statement the judges statement! What kind of message does that send out. .. I don't think judges particularly male ones should hold court when it comes to rape.. they seem to feel the attacker is the victim.

Rape trials should be co-judged by a male and female.

Disagree. I think the gender is irrelevant. A decent judge will appreciate that rape is a heinous crime and that the effects of which, on the victim, are long lasting and long reaching and as such that should be reflected in a decent sentence across the board.

The effect of jail on a rapist shouldn't even come into the equation.


Yes when you put it like that.... I was being unintentionally sexist, just annoyed at the sentence & the judges comments.

Re: Judge says man having sex with wife is a human right

Post by McAz » Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:08 pm

Guest wrote:
McHenry wrote:
But many people do not have faith in male judges in rape cases - my suggestion addresses this.

A good judge is a good judge, no matter the gender.


And a bad judge is a bad judge, no matter the gender - your point is pointless.

Re: Judge says man having sex with wife is a human right

Post by Guest » Tue Apr 30, 2019 8:54 pm

McHenry wrote:
Guest wrote:
McHenry wrote:
xtras1 wrote:
Guest wrote:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/ ... -sentence/

His parents sounded as vile as he was.



Can't believe what I have just read .. the father's statement the judges statement! What kind of message does that send out. .. I don't think judges particularly male ones should hold court when it comes to rape.. they seem to feel the attacker is the victim.

Rape trials should be co-judged by a male and female.

Disagree. I think the gender is irrelevant. A decent judge will appreciate that rape is a heinous crime and that the effects of which, on the victim, are long lasting and long reaching and as such that should be reflected in a decent sentence across the board.

The effect of jail on a rapist shouldn't even come into the equation.


But many people do not have faith in male judges in rape cases - my suggestion addresses this.

A good judge is a good judge, no matter the gender.

Re: Judge says man having sex with wife is a human right

Post by McAz » Tue Apr 30, 2019 8:46 pm

Guest wrote:
McHenry wrote:
xtras1 wrote:
Guest wrote:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/ ... -sentence/

His parents sounded as vile as he was.



Can't believe what I have just read .. the father's statement the judges statement! What kind of message does that send out. .. I don't think judges particularly male ones should hold court when it comes to rape.. they seem to feel the attacker is the victim.

Rape trials should be co-judged by a male and female.

Disagree. I think the gender is irrelevant. A decent judge will appreciate that rape is a heinous crime and that the effects of which, on the victim, are long lasting and long reaching and as such that should be reflected in a decent sentence across the board.

The effect of jail on a rapist shouldn't even come into the equation.


But many people do not have faith in male judges in rape cases - my suggestion addresses this.

Re: Judge says man having sex with wife is a human right

Post by Guest » Tue Apr 30, 2019 8:43 pm

McHenry wrote:
xtras1 wrote:
Guest wrote:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/ ... -sentence/

His parents sounded as vile as he was.



Can't believe what I have just read .. the father's statement the judges statement! What kind of message does that send out. .. I don't think judges particularly male ones should hold court when it comes to rape.. they seem to feel the attacker is the victim.

Rape trials should be co-judged by a male and female.

Disagree. I think the gender is irrelevant. A decent judge will appreciate that rape is a heinous crime and that the effects of which, on the victim, are long lasting and long reaching and as such that should be reflected in a decent sentence across the board.

The effect of jail on a rapist shouldn't even come into the equation.

Re: Judge says man having sex with wife is a human right

Post by McAz » Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:55 pm

Cleopatra wrote:
xtras1 wrote:Interesting Cleopatra..



Jury service was traumatic :shake head:

I pray to God I'm never in the position of having to be judged by twelve of my "peers". The level of sheer ignorance of how to apply the law to evidence, the inability to understand the judge's directions. It was an ordeal having to listen to the gruelling evidence, but then to have to sit with ignoramus's battling it out for hours.

I'm still not over it.

My son who has also been called twice said much the same. Most of us who haven’t served think it’s like on the telly.

Re: Judge says man having sex with wife is a human right

Post by Guest » Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:53 pm

xtras1 wrote:
Guest wrote:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/ ... -sentence/

His parents sounded as vile as he was.



Can't believe what I have just read .. the father's statement the judges statement! What kind of message does that send out. .. I don't think judges particularly male ones should hold court when it comes to rape.. they seem to feel the attacker is the victim.

Nothing positive for the victims that's for sure and some still wonder why rape victims are reluctant to come forward.

The scrote even had the temerity to appeal his conviction due to lack of evidence and that he only wanted 'outercourse' even citing he got an unfair trial. Seems him and his legal team didn't merit the eye-witnesses accounts.

Re: Judge says man having sex with wife is a human right

Post by Cleopatra » Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:44 pm

xtras1 wrote:Interesting Cleopatra..



Jury service was traumatic :shake head:

I pray to God I'm never in the position of having to be judged by twelve of my "peers". The level of sheer ignorance of how to apply the law to evidence, the inability to understand the judge's directions. It was an ordeal having to listen to the gruelling evidence, but then to have to sit with ignoramus's battling it out for hours.

I'm still not over it.

Re: Judge says man having sex with wife is a human right

Post by McAz » Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:41 pm

Cleopatra wrote:
McHenry wrote:
It’s the only way to help counteract gender bias.



Having sat on two juries, one a rape case, you really couldn't call it along gender lines. Some of the men were empathetic and some of the women were the opposite.

That’s what I would expect - but others are suggesting females only should judge rape cases, hence my suggestion.

Re: Judge says man having sex with wife is a human right

Post by xtras1 » Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:39 pm

Interesting Cleopatra..

Re: Judge says man having sex with wife is a human right

Post by Cleopatra » Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:38 pm

McHenry wrote:
xtras1 wrote:
McHenry wrote:
xtras1 wrote:
Guest wrote:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/ ... -sentence/

His parents sounded as vile as he was.



Can't believe what I have just read .. the father's statement the judges statement! What kind of message does that send out. .. I don't think judges particularly male ones should hold court when it comes to rape.. they seem to feel the attacker is the victim.

Rape trials should be co-judged by a male and female.


I disagree....

It’s the only way to help counteract gender bias.



Having sat on two juries, one a rape case, you really couldn't call it along gender lines. Some of the men were empathetic and some of the women were the opposite.

Re: Judge says man having sex with wife is a human right

Post by McAz » Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:36 pm

xtras1 wrote:
McHenry wrote:
xtras1 wrote:
McHenry wrote:It’s the only way to help counteract gender bias.


Probably... as long as he is gagged with duct tape I'm all for it. :snooty:

Silliness isn’t appropriate in subjects such as this.



Oh do be quiet Az...

:shake head:

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