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Re: The £10 packet of cigarettes.

Post by Gabby » Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:08 am

LordRaven wrote:£2.59 a pint isn't bad though :smilin:


£1.59 beer... £1 water! :mrgreen:

Re: The £10 packet of cigarettes.

Post by jra » Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:06 am

HobbitFeet wrote:
jra wrote:
HobbitFeet wrote:they don't want to compete with Wetherspoons though, if they find the right location they can be an absolute success and carve out their own niche

great location, thoughtful food, charm, ambience = £20 for a dover sole and £6 for a glass of Chablis, not £5 for a burger and pint


As you say in the right location. I haven't eaten Dover Sole, but I have Lemon Sole. My preferred fish are Haddock and Plaice. Quite tasty if fresh, not so good if they've seen any ice along the way.

One fish I do want to try is Turbot.



Turbot is my dad's favourite

I think you can't beat a piece of halibut but at £30-35 a kilo it's not for every day

we do eat loads of fish though, my daughter prefers it to meat which is quite unusual for a teenager I think


We are getting into luxury territory there with Halibut.

Fish is more about the freshness rather than the make.

A Plaice you've caught yourself will be better than any Halibut bought in a restaurant, supermarket or even a fishmonger.

Fish and ice (frozen partly or wholly) do not mix, it's as simple as that, but for most people there isn't a choice, so you have to settle for second best.

Re: The £10 packet of cigarettes.

Post by HobbitFeet » Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:49 am

jra wrote:
HobbitFeet wrote:they don't want to compete with Wetherspoons though, if they find the right location they can be an absolute success and carve out their own niche

great location, thoughtful food, charm, ambience = £20 for a dover sole and £6 for a glass of Chablis, not £5 for a burger and pint


As you say in the right location. I haven't eaten Dover Sole, but I have Lemon Sole. My preferred fish are Haddock and Plaice. Quite tasty if fresh, not so good if they've seen any ice along the way.

One fish I do want to try is Turbot.



Turbot is my dad's favourite

I think you can't beat a piece of halibut but at £30-35 a kilo it's not for every day

we do eat loads of fish though, my daughter prefers it to meat which is quite unusual for a teenager I think

Re: The £10 packet of cigarettes.

Post by jra » Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:45 am

HobbitFeet wrote:they don't want to compete with Wetherspoons though, if they find the right location they can be an absolute success and carve out their own niche

great location, thoughtful food, charm, ambience = £20 for a dover sole and £6 for a glass of Chablis, not £5 for a burger and pint


As you say in the right location. I haven't eaten Dover Sole, but I have Lemon Sole. My preferred fish are Haddock and Plaice. Quite tasty if fresh, not so good if they've seen any ice along the way.

One fish I do want to try is Turbot.

Re: The £10 packet of cigarettes.

Post by HobbitFeet » Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:29 am

they don't want to compete with Wetherspoons though, if they find the right location they can be an absolute success and carve out their own niche

great location, thoughtful food, charm, ambience = £20 for a dover sole and £6 for a glass of Chablis, not £5 for a burger and pint

Re: The £10 packet of cigarettes.

Post by jra » Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:15 am

Stooo wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:
jra wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:
Stooo wrote:Depends on many things.

You're allowed to say you don't know.


It's not an easy question to answer. It depends on what you're selling, how much per unit of drink, how many staff and what you pay them, business rates etc. etc.

Also, AFAIK the VAT/duty is higher on alcoholic drinks (it varies depending on whether it's cider, beer, spirits) than on non-alcoholic drinks and beverages.

Fuck me I already get the obvious!
So I need to turn over at least seven grand a week in a small pub to get myself a grand a week wages .... no wonder they're all fucking closing down.


Well yeah.

Add into the mix Mr Tim Martin (the immigrant) who will buy up basically derelict sites and turn them into the McDee's for the over forties and his brewery contracts to buy near to date stock for sod all only to sell it at a discount that closes any competition.

My old man always said that the pound in your pocket was the passport to a pint anywhere.


Much like the supermarkets have undercut a lot of local businesses/shops which in turn have gone out of business. You can't beat a country pub with its own log fire, but they'll never be able to compete with Wetherspoons.

Re: The £10 packet of cigarettes.

Post by BD/s little sister » Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:09 am

Rolluplostinspace wrote:
Guest wrote:Looks horrible, smells horrible, sooo bad for your health too. Why anyone with half a brain would smoke I don't :pukeup: know.

BD doesn't have half a brain.

I don't have half the money I used to have either Jack.
I'm being forced to cut down my smoking habits nowadays.
MP's drinks are subsidised within Westminster, not sure about their cigarettes though.

Re: The £10 packet of cigarettes.

Post by LordRaven » Sun Aug 11, 2019 8:58 pm

£2.59 a pint isn't bad though :smilin:

Re: The £10 packet of cigarettes.

Post by Stooo » Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:48 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:
jra wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:
Stooo wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:As I've seen pubs closedown reopen closedown reopen it has often crossed my mind .... how many pints etc do you have to sell each week to make it worthwhile.


Depends on many things.

You're allowed to say you don't know.


It's not an easy question to answer. It depends on what you're selling, how much per unit of drink, how many staff and what you pay them, business rates etc. etc.

Also, AFAIK the VAT/duty is higher on alcoholic drinks (it varies depending on whether it's cider, beer, spirits) than on non-alcoholic drinks and beverages.

Fuck me I already get the obvious!
So I need to turn over at least seven grand a week in a small pub to get myself a grand a week wages .... no wonder they're all fucking closing down.


Well yeah.

Add into the mix Mr Tim Martin (the immigrant) who will buy up basically derelict sites and turn them into the McDee's for the over forties and his brewery contracts to buy near to date stock for sod all only to sell it at a discount that closes any competition.

My old man always said that the pound in your pocket was the passport to a pint anywhere.

Re: The £10 packet of cigarettes.

Post by Jobless Oddball » Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:40 pm

BUDGIE wrote:
I don't like drinking in my house - it feels antisocial somehow.


Morelike ya missus won't let ya drink in the flat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :pmsl:

Re: The £10 packet of cigarettes.

Post by Gabby » Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:37 pm

BUDGIE wrote:
LordRaven wrote:
BUDGIE wrote:I'll tell you what, up here in Scotland the drink prices are getting out of order. The smokes?? I don't understand why you'd pay cash for something that does you no good whatsoever.

And before someone says "beer's like that!" - not in moderation it's not. It raises your HDL levels, lets you relax.. gives you an excuse to make a c**t of yourself.... shag horrors etc.

Pint of Coors in the Toby Jug pub - £4.50. Stalkers welcome to go in there and check for themselves. This is for a working class pub that had its windows panned in by cowardly Tims not so long ago. Upmarket it is not.

It's getting ridiculous to go have a night out with mates and end up spending £100 for about 6 hours of fun. JRA could rent a pro for that!!!!


It is the same down here, although even more expensive I am willing to bet. Pints are expensive now and I have curtailed going out so often because of it.
Where you are the Horrors, as you call them, will be crying in their drinks because all their chances at a romp will be at watching football or movies home having stocked up the fridge with cheap booze from the supermarket.



That's why the populations of Coatbridge, Blantyre, Motherwell, Airdrie are dwindling.... :trollface:

I don't like drinking in my house - it feels antisocial somehow.


I like being antisocial sometimes! :Wiiiine!:

Re: The £10 packet of cigarettes.

Post by Al Murray » Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:50 pm

A pub landlord needs a good sense of humour as well as being an affable bloke.
This Rollup bloke would drive customers away.
I can’t recommend pub landlord to him, it’s a bad fit.

Re: The £10 packet of cigarettes.

Post by Rolluplostinspace » Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:34 pm

jra wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:
Stooo wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:As I've seen pubs closedown reopen closedown reopen it has often crossed my mind .... how many pints etc do you have to sell each week to make it worthwhile.


Depends on many things.

You're allowed to say you don't know.


It's not an easy question to answer. It depends on what you're selling, how much per unit of drink, how many staff and what you pay them, business rates etc. etc.

Also, AFAIK the VAT/duty is higher on alcoholic drinks (it varies depending on whether it's cider, beer, spirits) than on non-alcoholic drinks and beverages.

Fuck me I already get the obvious!
So I need to turn over at least seven grand a week in a small pub to get myself a grand a week wages .... no wonder they're all fucking closing down.

Re: The £10 packet of cigarettes.

Post by jra » Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:24 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:
Stooo wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:As I've seen pubs closedown reopen closedown reopen it has often crossed my mind .... how many pints etc do you have to sell each week to make it worthwhile.


Depends on many things.

You're allowed to say you don't know.


It's not an easy question to answer. It depends on what you're selling, how much per unit of drink, how many staff and what you pay them, business rates etc. etc.

Also, AFAIK the VAT/duty is higher on alcoholic drinks (it varies depending on whether it's cider, beer, spirits) than on non-alcoholic drinks and beverages.

Re: The £10 packet of cigarettes.

Post by jra » Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:18 pm

Guest wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:I wonder if breweries are finding it more cost effective to sell to supermarkets and not pubs .... of course it is.
Pubs were their only real outlet in past times but why bother any longer?
Brew it can it ship it .... fuck all that running small business type affairs too.

Supermarkets don’t have the overheads pubs have, pubs cannot compete so they sell pub grub because it has a huge mark up.
Pubs also rely on their expensive tv packages to fill the place up for main events, boxing, premiership games, champions league, the ashes, olympics etc.


Indeed, but I do think some pubs take the piss (no pun intended) somewhat with their beer prices.

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