What does it mean to be a Man?

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Re: What does it mean to be a Man?

Post by Dean » Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:17 pm

Guest wrote:
LordRaven wrote:
Nucks wrote:The recent Sam Smith Twitter thing where he now wants to be referred to by the pronoun "they" instead of "he". One wonders what "they" think it means to be a man, or used to be. Big thread on DS for anyone not aware.


When we closed the office the other day we encountered "a person" wearing denim bib and braces halfway up to knees, a t shirt, earings, 5 day stubble, lipstick and eye make up.

Call me old fashioned, but if I called that person Mr would I be in the wrong?


It’s amazing just how many times you have an encounter with someone or something days before there is a thread about it posted here. What a coincidence!


What a brilliant guest post! :pmsl: :pmsl: :pmsl:

Re: What does it mean to be a Man?

Post by Jon55 » Sun Sep 15, 2019 2:56 pm

Sam Smith has broken up with his partner Brandon Flynn last year - So perhaps he wants a change.

https://people.com/music/sam-smith-breaks-silence-on-split-from-brandon-flynn/

Re: What does it mean to be a Man?

Post by Verdi » Sun Sep 15, 2019 2:40 pm

I 100% agree that someone can be born into the wrong body. That is the difference between being a man and woman. Being a feminine man doesn't make you any less of a man.

Re: What does it mean to be a Man?

Post by Nucks » Sun Sep 15, 2019 2:35 pm

Verdi wrote:
Nucks wrote:
Verdi wrote:
Nucks wrote:The recent Sam Smith Twitter thing where he now wants to be referred to by the pronoun "they" instead of "he". One wonders what "they" think it means to be a man, or used to be. Big thread on DS for anyone not aware.


He may not identify as a man, but that doesn't stop him being a man. It's a bit like if Frank Bruno decided he didn't identify as black anymore, he'd still be black.


But what's underneath that? Are there specific traits and behaviours and attitudes that Sam no longer identifies with? And what would those be? I'm not asking you directly of course, just trying to find out more.


What specific traits though belong just to men? Aside from the obvious physical differences.

You get masculine women, you get effeminate men. They are still men and women though.

All this non-binary stuff, all it does is reinforce gender stereotypes.


I don't know, that's why I'm a bit curious. How does a biological male not feel like a man?

Re: What does it mean to be a Man?

Post by Verdi » Sun Sep 15, 2019 2:27 pm

Nucks wrote:
Verdi wrote:
Nucks wrote:The recent Sam Smith Twitter thing where he now wants to be referred to by the pronoun "they" instead of "he". One wonders what "they" think it means to be a man, or used to be. Big thread on DS for anyone not aware.


He may not identify as a man, but that doesn't stop him being a man. It's a bit like if Frank Bruno decided he didn't identify as black anymore, he'd still be black.


But what's underneath that? Are there specific traits and behaviours and attitudes that Sam no longer identifies with? And what would those be? I'm not asking you directly of course, just trying to find out more.


What specific traits though belong just to men? Aside from the obvious physical differences.

You get masculine women, you get effeminate men. They are still men and women though.

All this non-binary stuff, all it does is reinforce gender stereotypes.

Re: What does it mean to be a Man?

Post by Nucks » Sun Sep 15, 2019 2:03 pm

Verdi wrote:
Nucks wrote:The recent Sam Smith Twitter thing where he now wants to be referred to by the pronoun "they" instead of "he". One wonders what "they" think it means to be a man, or used to be. Big thread on DS for anyone not aware.


He may not identify as a man, but that doesn't stop him being a man. It's a bit like if Frank Bruno decided he didn't identify as black anymore, he'd still be black.


But what's underneath that? Are there specific traits and behaviours and attitudes that Sam no longer identifies with? And what would those be? I'm not asking you directly of course, just trying to find out more.

Re: What does it mean to be a Man?

Post by Verdi » Sun Sep 15, 2019 1:49 pm

Nucks wrote:The recent Sam Smith Twitter thing where he now wants to be referred to by the pronoun "they" instead of "he". One wonders what "they" think it means to be a man, or used to be. Big thread on DS for anyone not aware.


He may not identify as a man, but that doesn't stop him being a man. It's a bit like if Frank Bruno decided he didn't identify as black anymore, he'd still be black.

Re: What does it mean to be a Man?

Post by Guest » Sun Sep 15, 2019 1:25 pm

LordRaven wrote:
Nucks wrote:The recent Sam Smith Twitter thing where he now wants to be referred to by the pronoun "they" instead of "he". One wonders what "they" think it means to be a man, or used to be. Big thread on DS for anyone not aware.


When we closed the office the other day we encountered "a person" wearing denim bib and braces halfway up to knees, a t shirt, earings, 5 day stubble, lipstick and eye make up.

Call me old fashioned, but if I called that person Mr would I be in the wrong?


It’s amazing just how many times you have an encounter with someone or something days before there is a thread about it posted here. What a coincidence!

Re: What does it mean to be a Man?

Post by Nucks » Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:45 pm

LordRaven wrote:
Nucks wrote:The recent Sam Smith Twitter thing where he now wants to be referred to by the pronoun "they" instead of "he". One wonders what "they" think it means to be a man, or used to be. Big thread on DS for anyone not aware.


When we closed the office the other day we encountered "a person" wearing denim bib and braces halfway up to knees, a t shirt, earings, 5 day stubble, lipstick and eye make up.

Call me old fashioned, but if I called that person Mr would I be in the wrong?


The stubble makes me think male, although some women can be hirsute, I don't know if they get proper stubble on their face/neck. I guess you would say hi or hey. :ooer:

Re: What does it mean to be a Man?

Post by LordRaven » Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:35 pm

Nucks wrote:The recent Sam Smith Twitter thing where he now wants to be referred to by the pronoun "they" instead of "he". One wonders what "they" think it means to be a man, or used to be. Big thread on DS for anyone not aware.


When we closed the office the other day we encountered "a person" wearing denim bib and braces halfway up to knees, a t shirt, earings, 5 day stubble, lipstick and eye make up.

Call me old fashioned, but if I called that person Mr would I be in the wrong?

Re: What does it mean to be a Man?

Post by Nucks » Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:25 pm

The recent Sam Smith Twitter thing where he now wants to be referred to by the pronoun "they" instead of "he". One wonders what "they" think it means to be a man, or used to be. Big thread on DS for anyone not aware.

Re: What does it mean to be a Man?

Post by Jon55 » Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:50 am

This thread has made me think of this song :razz:

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Re: What does it mean to be a Man?

Post by Guest » Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:59 pm

jra wrote:
LordRaven wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:
LordRaven wrote:I thought this was a thread about manhood.

A real man can follow animal tracks :ooer:
Not sure what use that would be to you in London.
Not sure what use it would be in the wilds of Wales!


I used to follow animal tracks, in deserts, bush, jungle and mountain terrain, it made sense because animals tend to take the easiest routes and especially when traversing.


True, but there isn't much use for that in the UK.

There is, get out into the countryside. The great outdoors.

Re: What does it mean to be a Man?

Post by Guest » Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:59 pm

O god. Art is that Justice for men bloke men bloke from sol. I think it was a closet woman hater.

Re: What does it mean to be a Man?

Post by Guest » Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:57 pm

Nucks wrote::gigglesnshit:

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