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Stooo wrote:Is it the hidden horror?

You see all sorts of horror stories about this and they are genuine ailments so what's ahead?

Stooo wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:It's possible that some people who have "long Covid" are those who weren't that ill, so they didn't rest enough. We all know about colds which linger, and I think it's at least partly because people insist on carrying on as normal when they have a cold. Infections can cause long-term problems - there's a theory that some autoimmune illnesses can be caused or triggered by the immune reaction to an infection.

Possible I guess but there have been studies showing that it can do huge damage to heart tissues. The LBC political editor Theo Usherwood (@theousherwood) is still complaining about breathlessness months later, and is a relatively young man. Flat on your back in ICU for three weeks is hardly stressing yourself.

Raggamuffin wrote:It's possible that some people who have "long Covid" are those who weren't that ill, so they didn't rest enough. We all know about colds which linger, and I think it's at least partly because people insist on carrying on as normal when they have a cold. Infections can cause long-term problems - there's a theory that some autoimmune illnesses can be caused or triggered by the immune reaction to an infection.

ArchieG wrote:

Lady Murasaki wrote:

Toke 'n' gesture wrote:

What is long Covid?

There is no medical definition or list of symptoms shared by all patients - two people with long Covid can have very different experiences.

However, the most common feature is crippling fatigue.

Others symptoms include: breathlessness, a cough that won't go away, joint pain, muscle aches, hearing and eyesight problems, headaches, loss of smell and taste as well as damage to the heart, lungs, kidneys and gut.

Mental health problems have been reported including depression, anxiety and struggling to think clearly.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/health-54296223

This is not new. Post viral fatigue is commonly known by doctors.

Very much so. My wife had a potential career in tennis as a teenager, she caught glandular fever, and that was over before it started. She struggled to get out of bed for the best part of a year.

Lady Murasaki wrote:

Toke 'n' gesture wrote:

What is long Covid?

There is no medical definition or list of symptoms shared by all patients - two people with long Covid can have very different experiences.

However, the most common feature is crippling fatigue.

Others symptoms include: breathlessness, a cough that won't go away, joint pain, muscle aches, hearing and eyesight problems, headaches, loss of smell and taste as well as damage to the heart, lungs, kidneys and gut.

Mental health problems have been reported including depression, anxiety and struggling to think clearly.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/health-54296223

This is not new. Post viral fatigue is commonly known by doctors.

Raggamuffin wrote:

NastyNickers wrote:The falling death rate could be because the people out and about and causing the infection rate increase are young. Students are the current issue. It’s young people likely to be working in pubs and restaurants and out and about.
I haven’t looked at the infection rate stats recently though. Is it still the younger lot that are higher?

As for long covid and not resting. If you’re getting a positive test your isolated for two weeks. It’s enforced resting. It’s not like the cold where you work through it.

I think it's ten days. Even if someone is at home they could be doing stuff - maybe gardening out in damp weather or something.

Toke 'n' gesture wrote:

What is long Covid?

There is no medical definition or list of symptoms shared by all patients - two people with long Covid can have very different experiences.

However, the most common feature is crippling fatigue.

Others symptoms include: breathlessness, a cough that won't go away, joint pain, muscle aches, hearing and eyesight problems, headaches, loss of smell and taste as well as damage to the heart, lungs, kidneys and gut.

Mental health problems have been reported including depression, anxiety and struggling to think clearly.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/health-54296223

NastyNickers wrote:The falling death rate could be because the people out and about and causing the infection rate increase are young. Students are the current issue. It’s young people likely to be working in pubs and restaurants and out and about.
I haven’t looked at the infection rate stats recently though. Is it still the younger lot that are higher?

As for long covid and not resting. If you’re getting a positive test your isolated for two weeks. It’s enforced resting. It’s not like the cold where you work through it.

What is long Covid?

There is no medical definition or list of symptoms shared by all patients - two people with long Covid can have very different experiences.

However, the most common feature is crippling fatigue.

Others symptoms include: breathlessness, a cough that won't go away, joint pain, muscle aches, hearing and eyesight problems, headaches, loss of smell and taste as well as damage to the heart, lungs, kidneys and gut.

Mental health problems have been reported including depression, anxiety and struggling to think clearly.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Lady Murasaki wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Lady Murasaki wrote:SF, you dinosaur, did women really fall for that old guff?

Raggamuffin wrote:It's possible that some people who have "long Covid" are those who weren't that ill, so they didn't rest enough. We all know about colds which linger, and I think it's at least partly because people insist on carrying on as normal when they have a cold. Infections can cause long-term problems - there's a theory that some autoimmune illnesses can be caused or triggered by the immune reaction to an infection.

It’s not just that people insist on carrying on as normal, it’s that other people insist they do. People get sanctions at some workplaces when they don’t carry on as normal. This whole putting health before work mentality as a country is a new phenomenon. It’s a fine balancing act health v economy. I don’t see the point in pointing fingers of blame at either.

Oh yes, I agree that many people feel that they can't take time off work or whatever.

I wonder if those attitudes will change once this all dies down.

I don't know but whilst this virus is still around, there's no choice. If someone has symptoms of a cold or any kind of virus which could be Covid, they have to stay off work and employers can't nag them or sanction them.

Lady Murasaki wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Lady Murasaki wrote:SF, you dinosaur, did women really fall for that old guff?

Raggamuffin wrote:It's possible that some people who have "long Covid" are those who weren't that ill, so they didn't rest enough. We all know about colds which linger, and I think it's at least partly because people insist on carrying on as normal when they have a cold. Infections can cause long-term problems - there's a theory that some autoimmune illnesses can be caused or triggered by the immune reaction to an infection.

It’s not just that people insist on carrying on as normal, it’s that other people insist they do. People get sanctions at some workplaces when they don’t carry on as normal. This whole putting health before work mentality as a country is a new phenomenon. It’s a fine balancing act health v economy. I don’t see the point in pointing fingers of blame at either.

Oh yes, I agree that many people feel that they can't take time off work or whatever.

I wonder if those attitudes will change once this all dies down.

drum wrote:

Raggamuffin wrote:

Lady Murasaki wrote:SF, you dinosaur, did women really fall for that old guff?

Raggamuffin wrote:It's possible that some people who have "long Covid" are those who weren't that ill, so they didn't rest enough. We all know about colds which linger, and I think it's at least partly because people insist on carrying on as normal when they have a cold. Infections can cause long-term problems - there's a theory that some autoimmune illnesses can be caused or triggered by the immune reaction to an infection.

It’s not just that people insist on carrying on as normal, it’s that other people insist they do. People get sanctions at some workplaces when they don’t carry on as normal. This whole putting health before work mentality as a country is a new phenomenon. It’s a fine balancing act health v economy. I don’t see the point in pointing fingers of blame at either.

Oh yes, I agree that many people feel that they can't take time off work or whatever.

It doesn't help anyone that the governments guidance is all over the place, get back to work or be sacked, no, stay at home and work you wont be sacked, employers sacking them anyway. The eat out/help out scheme certainly helped in the spread of covid, they wont take responsibility for that either, now they want you to go to the cinema ... I don't think so.

Raggamuffin wrote:

Lady Murasaki wrote:SF, you dinosaur, did women really fall for that old guff?

Raggamuffin wrote:It's possible that some people who have "long Covid" are those who weren't that ill, so they didn't rest enough. We all know about colds which linger, and I think it's at least partly because people insist on carrying on as normal when they have a cold. Infections can cause long-term problems - there's a theory that some autoimmune illnesses can be caused or triggered by the immune reaction to an infection.

It’s not just that people insist on carrying on as normal, it’s that other people insist they do. People get sanctions at some workplaces when they don’t carry on as normal. This whole putting health before work mentality as a country is a new phenomenon. It’s a fine balancing act health v economy. I don’t see the point in pointing fingers of blame at either.

Oh yes, I agree that many people feel that they can't take time off work or whatever.