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Re: So It's True iPhone Users Are Smarter

Post by art0hur0moh » Sun Sep 23, 2018 3:33 am

jra wrote:
Stooo wrote:
jra wrote:
Stooo wrote:
jra wrote:Fair enough Stooo, you have your specific requirements. I had to Google what a notch screen was, I'll confess. All I need a smartphone for is to make/receive phone calls and send/receive texts and that's about it really. I find mobile phone screens generally too small, plus the buttons as well.

Most often for photography I use my bridge camera which for £90 is pretty good, but it's not very versatile like a DSLR where I can change lenses, use filters, mount it on a proper stand (as can my bridge camera), and both have a hand grip.

I find it quite hard to hold a mobile phone very steady when taking photos and it's very easy to block the lens with your fingers.


Ever sat in a dead motorway queue with the handbrake on and engine off?


Yes. In the 90's on the M25.

I was working in Hemel at the time and had to deliver some disk drives (*) to a place in Hook, Hampshire. On the way out I was overtaken by a Mercedes on the M3 and it's wheels flicked up a stone chip onto my car. I heard the impact and thought nothing of it. On the way back the traffic was so heavy on the M25 I had time to get out of the car in the outside lane of the motorway and investigate possible damage. The stone chip had hit the windscreen, but right by the very edge on the drivers side. I had time to do this inspection before the traffic had even moved. Once I got off the M1 for Hemel there was a crack on my windscreen half way across by the time I got home.

We are spoilt these days technology wise. You should know, you're my age. If you got stuck in a traffic jam, you've literally just sat it out or read a book or newspaper or something. If you need a car for your job, fair enough, but I don't. The traffic was bad enough 25 years ago. Now it's just a complete nightmare, which is why I choose not to have a car right now.

(*) The huge ones that they used to use in mainframes at the time. Rooms full of boxes type machines that needed air conditioning.

Here we go.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainframe_computer

I was working for the MOD at the time.


I can read a book or a newspaper online from my phone without the need for peripheral devices. I'm as happy to read digital versions of the same media, and it's better for the environment.


No issue with that, but the scenario I mentioned happened 1990/1991. Things have obviously moved on a bit since then. But, point taken. Like I said before, you have different requirements from me.

I guess I'm old school. When I go to Devon by train I spend most of my time looking out the window (especially along Dawlish Sea Wall) observing things rather than playing with my devices and being unaware of what is going on around me. I generally like to observe the scenery, people and what is going on, rather than being immersed in my own little world with my devices, like many of the younger generation these days seem to be.
I do the same with an added bonus, listen to other People. And occasionally interject in others conversations or flat out introduce my self. Learning from books or my iPhone is a weak alturnatve to a Good conversation. In fact it dosen't even need to be anything more complicated than pleasant. I have found most forego their mobile's. Book readers it always seems as though they are more interested I a dead dude/dudet than people of the world today as it is.

Re: So It's True iPhone Users Are Smarter

Post by jra » Sun Sep 16, 2018 9:39 pm

Stooo wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:
You look at the scenery? Whatever next? :yikes:


When you've seen Dawlish once, you've seen it a thousand times. I'd rather read a book or my Kindle app.


The railway line along Dawlish Sea Wall, not Dawlish itself.

Re: So It's True iPhone Users Are Smarter

Post by Stooo » Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:36 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
You look at the scenery? Whatever next? :yikes:


When you've seen Dawlish once, you've seen it a thousand times. I'd rather read a book or my Kindle app.

Re: So It's True iPhone Users Are Smarter

Post by jra » Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:24 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
jra wrote:
Stooo wrote:
jra wrote:
Stooo wrote:Ever sat in a dead motorway queue with the handbrake on and engine off?


Yes. In the 90's on the M25.

I was working in Hemel at the time and had to deliver some disk drives (*) to a place in Hook, Hampshire. On the way out I was overtaken by a Mercedes on the M3 and it's wheels flicked up a stone chip onto my car. I heard the impact and thought nothing of it. On the way back the traffic was so heavy on the M25 I had time to get out of the car in the outside lane of the motorway and investigate possible damage. The stone chip had hit the windscreen, but right by the very edge on the drivers side. I had time to do this inspection before the traffic had even moved. Once I got off the M1 for Hemel there was a crack on my windscreen half way across by the time I got home.

We are spoilt these days technology wise. You should know, you're my age. If you got stuck in a traffic jam, you've literally just sat it out or read a book or newspaper or something. If you need a car for your job, fair enough, but I don't. The traffic was bad enough 25 years ago. Now it's just a complete nightmare, which is why I choose not to have a car right now.

(*) The huge ones that they used to use in mainframes at the time. Rooms full of boxes type machines that needed air conditioning.

Here we go.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainframe_computer

I was working for the MOD at the time.


I can read a book or a newspaper online from my phone without the need for peripheral devices. I'm as happy to read digital versions of the same media, and it's better for the environment.


No issue with that, but the scenario I mentioned happened 1990/1991. Things have obviously moved on a bit since then. But, point taken. Like I said before, you have different requirements from me.

I guess I'm old school. When I go to Devon by train I spend most of my time looking out the window (especially along Dawlish Sea Wall) observing things rather than playing with my devices and being unaware of what is going on around me. I generally like to observe the scenery, people and what is going on, rather than being immersed in my own little world with my devices, like many of the younger generation these days seem to be.


You look at the scenery? Whatever next? :yikes:


You'd be surprised at how people on a train don't (much).

They're reading a newspaper, using a laptop, tablet, smartphone, listening to music with headphones etc. etc.

Ferris Bueller's Day Off.

'Life moves pretty fast. If you don't look around you might miss it.'

Re: So It's True iPhone Users Are Smarter

Post by Raggamuffin » Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:16 pm

jra wrote:
Stooo wrote:
jra wrote:
Stooo wrote:
jra wrote:Fair enough Stooo, you have your specific requirements. I had to Google what a notch screen was, I'll confess. All I need a smartphone for is to make/receive phone calls and send/receive texts and that's about it really. I find mobile phone screens generally too small, plus the buttons as well.

Most often for photography I use my bridge camera which for £90 is pretty good, but it's not very versatile like a DSLR where I can change lenses, use filters, mount it on a proper stand (as can my bridge camera), and both have a hand grip.

I find it quite hard to hold a mobile phone very steady when taking photos and it's very easy to block the lens with your fingers.


Ever sat in a dead motorway queue with the handbrake on and engine off?


Yes. In the 90's on the M25.

I was working in Hemel at the time and had to deliver some disk drives (*) to a place in Hook, Hampshire. On the way out I was overtaken by a Mercedes on the M3 and it's wheels flicked up a stone chip onto my car. I heard the impact and thought nothing of it. On the way back the traffic was so heavy on the M25 I had time to get out of the car in the outside lane of the motorway and investigate possible damage. The stone chip had hit the windscreen, but right by the very edge on the drivers side. I had time to do this inspection before the traffic had even moved. Once I got off the M1 for Hemel there was a crack on my windscreen half way across by the time I got home.

We are spoilt these days technology wise. You should know, you're my age. If you got stuck in a traffic jam, you've literally just sat it out or read a book or newspaper or something. If you need a car for your job, fair enough, but I don't. The traffic was bad enough 25 years ago. Now it's just a complete nightmare, which is why I choose not to have a car right now.

(*) The huge ones that they used to use in mainframes at the time. Rooms full of boxes type machines that needed air conditioning.

Here we go.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainframe_computer

I was working for the MOD at the time.


I can read a book or a newspaper online from my phone without the need for peripheral devices. I'm as happy to read digital versions of the same media, and it's better for the environment.


No issue with that, but the scenario I mentioned happened 1990/1991. Things have obviously moved on a bit since then. But, point taken. Like I said before, you have different requirements from me.

I guess I'm old school. When I go to Devon by train I spend most of my time looking out the window (especially along Dawlish Sea Wall) observing things rather than playing with my devices and being unaware of what is going on around me. I generally like to observe the scenery, people and what is going on, rather than being immersed in my own little world with my devices, like many of the younger generation these days seem to be.


You look at the scenery? Whatever next? :yikes:

Re: So It's True iPhone Users Are Smarter

Post by Raggamuffin » Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:13 pm

KeithTas wrote:A study has shown that people that use iPhones are smarter than others than Android users.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2922474/Do-iPhone-SMARTER-Android-user-Infographic-reveals-link-education-phone-choice.html

Bonnet de douche.........I knew it all along.


What if you don't use either of them? :ooer:

Re: So It's True iPhone Users Are Smarter

Post by jra » Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:12 pm

Stooo wrote:
jra wrote:
Stooo wrote:
jra wrote:Fair enough Stooo, you have your specific requirements. I had to Google what a notch screen was, I'll confess. All I need a smartphone for is to make/receive phone calls and send/receive texts and that's about it really. I find mobile phone screens generally too small, plus the buttons as well.

Most often for photography I use my bridge camera which for £90 is pretty good, but it's not very versatile like a DSLR where I can change lenses, use filters, mount it on a proper stand (as can my bridge camera), and both have a hand grip.

I find it quite hard to hold a mobile phone very steady when taking photos and it's very easy to block the lens with your fingers.


Ever sat in a dead motorway queue with the handbrake on and engine off?


Yes. In the 90's on the M25.

I was working in Hemel at the time and had to deliver some disk drives (*) to a place in Hook, Hampshire. On the way out I was overtaken by a Mercedes on the M3 and it's wheels flicked up a stone chip onto my car. I heard the impact and thought nothing of it. On the way back the traffic was so heavy on the M25 I had time to get out of the car in the outside lane of the motorway and investigate possible damage. The stone chip had hit the windscreen, but right by the very edge on the drivers side. I had time to do this inspection before the traffic had even moved. Once I got off the M1 for Hemel there was a crack on my windscreen half way across by the time I got home.

We are spoilt these days technology wise. You should know, you're my age. If you got stuck in a traffic jam, you've literally just sat it out or read a book or newspaper or something. If you need a car for your job, fair enough, but I don't. The traffic was bad enough 25 years ago. Now it's just a complete nightmare, which is why I choose not to have a car right now.

(*) The huge ones that they used to use in mainframes at the time. Rooms full of boxes type machines that needed air conditioning.

Here we go.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainframe_computer

I was working for the MOD at the time.


I can read a book or a newspaper online from my phone without the need for peripheral devices. I'm as happy to read digital versions of the same media, and it's better for the environment.


No issue with that, but the scenario I mentioned happened 1990/1991. Things have obviously moved on a bit since then. But, point taken. Like I said before, you have different requirements from me.

I guess I'm old school. When I go to Devon by train I spend most of my time looking out the window (especially along Dawlish Sea Wall) observing things rather than playing with my devices and being unaware of what is going on around me. I generally like to observe the scenery, people and what is going on, rather than being immersed in my own little world with my devices, like many of the younger generation these days seem to be.

Re: So It's True iPhone Users Are Smarter

Post by Stooo » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:47 pm

jra wrote:
Stooo wrote:
jra wrote:Fair enough Stooo, you have your specific requirements. I had to Google what a notch screen was, I'll confess. All I need a smartphone for is to make/receive phone calls and send/receive texts and that's about it really. I find mobile phone screens generally too small, plus the buttons as well.

Most often for photography I use my bridge camera which for £90 is pretty good, but it's not very versatile like a DSLR where I can change lenses, use filters, mount it on a proper stand (as can my bridge camera), and both have a hand grip.

I find it quite hard to hold a mobile phone very steady when taking photos and it's very easy to block the lens with your fingers.


Ever sat in a dead motorway queue with the handbrake on and engine off?


Yes. In the 90's on the M25.

I was working in Hemel at the time and had to deliver some disk drives (*) to a place in Hook, Hampshire. On the way out I was overtaken by a Mercedes on the M3 and it's wheels flicked up a stone chip onto my car. I heard the impact and thought nothing of it. On the way back the traffic was so heavy on the M25 I had time to get out of the car in the outside lane of the motorway and investigate possible damage. The stone chip had hit the windscreen, but right by the very edge on the drivers side. I had time to do this inspection before the traffic had even moved. Once I got off the M1 for Hemel there was a crack on my windscreen half way across by the time I got home.

We are spoilt these days technology wise. You should know, you're my age. If you got stuck in a traffic jam, you've literally just sat it out or read a book or newspaper or something. If you need a car for your job, fair enough, but I don't. The traffic was bad enough 25 years ago. Now it's just a complete nightmare, which is why I choose not to have a car right now.

(*) The huge ones that they used to use in mainframes at the time. Rooms full of boxes type machines that needed air conditioning.

Here we go.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainframe_computer

I was working for the MOD at the time.


I can read a book or a newspaper online from my phone without the need for peripheral devices. I'm as happy to read digital versions of the same media, and it's better for the environment.

Re: So It's True iPhone Users Are Smarter

Post by jra » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:35 pm

Stooo wrote:
jra wrote:Fair enough Stooo, you have your specific requirements. I had to Google what a notch screen was, I'll confess. All I need a smartphone for is to make/receive phone calls and send/receive texts and that's about it really. I find mobile phone screens generally too small, plus the buttons as well.

Most often for photography I use my bridge camera which for £90 is pretty good, but it's not very versatile like a DSLR where I can change lenses, use filters, mount it on a proper stand (as can my bridge camera), and both have a hand grip.

I find it quite hard to hold a mobile phone very steady when taking photos and it's very easy to block the lens with your fingers.


Ever sat in a dead motorway queue with the handbrake on and engine off?


Yes. In the 90's on the M25.

I was working in Hemel at the time and had to deliver some disk drives (*) to a place in Hook, Hampshire. On the way out I was overtaken by a Mercedes on the M3 and it's wheels flicked up a stone chip onto my car. I heard the impact and thought nothing of it. On the way back the traffic was so heavy on the M25 I had time to get out of the car in the outside lane of the motorway and investigate possible damage. The stone chip had hit the windscreen, but right by the very edge on the drivers side. I had time to do this inspection before the traffic had even moved. Once I got off the M1 for Hemel there was a crack on my windscreen half way across by the time I got home.

We are spoilt these days technology wise. You should know, you're my age. If you got stuck in a traffic jam, you've literally just sat it out or read a book or newspaper or something. If you need a car for your job, fair enough, but I don't. The traffic was bad enough 25 years ago. Now it's just a complete nightmare, which is why I choose not to have a car right now.

(*) The huge ones that they used to use in mainframes at the time. Rooms full of boxes type machines that needed air conditioning.

Here we go.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainframe_computer

I was working for the MOD at the time.

Re: So It's True iPhone Users Are Smarter

Post by Stooo » Sat Sep 15, 2018 5:24 pm

jra wrote:Fair enough Stooo, you have your specific requirements. I had to Google what a notch screen was, I'll confess. All I need a smartphone for is to make/receive phone calls and send/receive texts and that's about it really. I find mobile phone screens generally too small, plus the buttons as well.

Most often for photography I use my bridge camera which for £90 is pretty good, but it's not very versatile like a DSLR where I can change lenses, use filters, mount it on a proper stand (as can my bridge camera), and both have a hand grip.

I find it quite hard to hold a mobile phone very steady when taking photos and it's very easy to block the lens with your fingers.


Ever sat in a dead motorway queue with the handbrake on and engine off?

Re: So It's True iPhone Users Are Smarter

Post by jra » Sat Sep 15, 2018 5:19 pm

Stooo wrote:
jra wrote:
Stooo wrote:
jra wrote:
Ray of Sunshine wrote:So you agree it's actually not practical for most people then?


Well I guess so, but I wouldn't carry most of the gear I've listed above around with me as a matter of course anyway, so it's not really an issue for me.

I just take what I need for the occasion, whatever it is, i.e. try and travel light.

But, if I want the right equipment for the job for the right occasion, a mobile phone is always going to be a compromise as technology stands right now, and sometimes I don't want to make too many compromises when it comes to photography for example, i.e. get decent equipment to do the job.

Mobile phones essentially are a jack of all trades, but master of none.


Apart from their primary function of course.

I'm thinking of getting a new phone next year, the battery on my one+one is slowly dying. The company has abandoned the audio jack and adopted the notch so I'm going to have to look elsewhere.


So, usually I take a basic smartphone (£40) to do the phone calls and a bridge camera (£90) to do the photos. Much cheaper than buying a posh iPhone which in itself is very stealable.

If you're looking for a new smartphone, try Elephone.

https://www.elephone.hk/smartphones


*notch screen* Nope. I'm happy with a 5.5 inch screen and I don't mind a top bezel for the camera and notifications. I really want something that I can root and unlock the bootloader. I use headphones from the phone at home and the bluetooth is iffy in my van so being able to aux it with a 3.5mm connection is pretty key.


Fair enough Stooo, you have your specific requirements. I had to Google what a notch screen was, I'll confess. All I need a smartphone for is to make/receive phone calls and send/receive texts and that's about it really. I find mobile phone screens generally too small, plus the buttons as well.

Most often for photography I use my bridge camera which for £90 is pretty good, but it's not very versatile like a DSLR where I can change lenses, use filters, mount it on a proper stand (as can my bridge camera), and both have a hand grip.

I find it quite hard to hold a mobile phone very steady when taking photos and it's very easy to block the lens with your fingers.

Re: So It's True iPhone Users Are Smarter

Post by Stooo » Sat Sep 15, 2018 2:43 pm

jra wrote:
Stooo wrote:
jra wrote:
Ray of Sunshine wrote:So you agree it's actually not practical for most people then?


Well I guess so, but I wouldn't carry most of the gear I've listed above around with me as a matter of course anyway, so it's not really an issue for me.

I just take what I need for the occasion, whatever it is, i.e. try and travel light.

But, if I want the right equipment for the job for the right occasion, a mobile phone is always going to be a compromise as technology stands right now, and sometimes I don't want to make too many compromises when it comes to photography for example, i.e. get decent equipment to do the job.

Mobile phones essentially are a jack of all trades, but master of none.


Apart from their primary function of course.

I'm thinking of getting a new phone next year, the battery on my one+one is slowly dying. The company has abandoned the audio jack and adopted the notch so I'm going to have to look elsewhere.


So, usually I take a basic smartphone (£40) to do the phone calls and a bridge camera (£90) to do the photos. Much cheaper than buying a posh iPhone which in itself is very stealable.

If you're looking for a new smartphone, try Elephone.

https://www.elephone.hk/smartphones


*notch screen* Nope. I'm happy with a 5.5 inch screen and I don't mind a top bezel for the camera and notifications. I really want something that I can root and unlock the bootloader. I use headphones from the phone at home and the bluetooth is iffy in my van so being able to aux it with a 3.5mm connection is pretty key.

Re: So It's True iPhone Users Are Smarter

Post by jra » Sat Sep 15, 2018 2:35 pm

Stooo wrote:
jra wrote:
Ray of Sunshine wrote:So you agree it's actually not practical for most people then?


Well I guess so, but I wouldn't carry most of the gear I've listed above around with me as a matter of course anyway, so it's not really an issue for me.

I just take what I need for the occasion, whatever it is, i.e. try and travel light.

But, if I want the right equipment for the job for the right occasion, a mobile phone is always going to be a compromise as technology stands right now, and sometimes I don't want to make too many compromises when it comes to photography for example, i.e. get decent equipment to do the job.

Mobile phones essentially are a jack of all trades, but master of none.


Apart from their primary function of course.

I'm thinking of getting a new phone next year, the battery on my one+one is slowly dying. The company has abandoned the audio jack and adopted the notch so I'm going to have to look elsewhere.


So, usually I take a basic smartphone (£40) to do the phone calls and a bridge camera (£90) to do the photos. Much cheaper than buying a posh iPhone which in itself is very stealable.

If you're looking for a new smartphone, try Elephone.

https://www.elephone.hk/smartphones

Re: So It's True iPhone Users Are Smarter

Post by Stooo » Sat Sep 15, 2018 2:27 pm

jra wrote:
Ray of Sunshine wrote:So you agree it's actually not practical for most people then?


Well I guess so, but I wouldn't carry most of the gear I've listed above around with me as a matter of course anyway, so it's not really an issue for me.

I just take what I need for the occasion, whatever it is, i.e. try and travel light.

But, if I want the right equipment for the job for the right occasion, a mobile phone is always going to be a compromise as technology stands right now, and sometimes I don't want to make too many compromises when it comes to photography for example, i.e. get decent equipment to do the job.

Mobile phones essentially are a jack of all trades, but master of none.


Apart from their primary function of course.

I'm thinking of getting a new phone next year, the battery on my one+one is slowly dying. The company has abandoned the audio jack and adopted the notch so I'm going to have to look elsewhere.

Re: So It's True iPhone Users Are Smarter

Post by jra » Sat Sep 15, 2018 2:22 pm

Ray of Sunshine wrote:So you agree it's actually not practical for most people then?


Well I guess so, but I wouldn't carry most of the gear I've listed above around with me as a matter of course anyway, so it's not really an issue for me.

I just take what I need for the occasion, whatever it is, i.e. try and travel light.

But, if I want the right equipment for the job for the right occasion, a mobile phone is always going to be a compromise as technology stands right now, and sometimes I don't want to make too many compromises when it comes to photography for example, i.e. get decent equipment to do the job.

Mobile phones essentially are a jack of all trades, but master of none.

No professional photographer or press at any event would be seen dead taking pictures with a mobile phone. They use high quality stuff to get the job done, with Nikon or Canon kit for example with high quality lenses.

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