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LordRaven wrote:

art0hur0moh wrote:

LordRaven wrote:

art0hur0moh wrote:

Art old bean, have you any thoughts on the wafer thin satellites, not much bigger than mobile phones, satellites, that they are thinking of launching, and then accelerating by laser to andromeda?

Depending on the speed of acceleration achieved, and the time it takes radio etc to get back to us, we could get feedback within a lifetime.

Which would be incredible.

Haven't heard of them before now? Don't think it would work, there is to much between there and here? Heard of light propulsion, still not clear on how it works well enough, especially beyond the solar systems outer limits? Remember how Papillion escaped the island? One source of propulsion i think insufficient for experimentation. Then there is the signals need for power. Voyagers use nuclear power and still had to power down to conserve energy.

Apologies, I meant Alpha Centauri, not Andromeda --which would be impossible to get to by such a method.

Designed as a Light Sail for propulsion, it would also be a Solar Panel in order to power itself from any solar power, and that would include any Star it arrived at.

art0hur0moh wrote:

LordRaven wrote:

art0hur0moh wrote:

Art old bean, have you any thoughts on the wafer thin satellites, not much bigger than mobile phones, satellites, that they are thinking of launching, and then accelerating by laser to andromeda?

Depending on the speed of acceleration achieved, and the time it takes radio etc to get back to us, we could get feedback within a lifetime.

Which would be incredible.

Haven't heard of them before now? Don't think it would work, there is to much between there and here? Heard of light propulsion, still not clear on how it works well enough, especially beyond the solar systems outer limits? Remember how Papillion escaped the island? One source of propulsion i think insufficient for experimentation. Then there is the signals need for power. Voyagers use nuclear power and still had to power down to conserve energy.

LordRaven wrote:

art0hur0moh wrote:

Art old bean, have you any thoughts on the wafer thin satellites, not much bigger than mobile phones, satellites, that they are thinking of launching, and then accelerating by laser to andromeda?

Depending on the speed of acceleration achieved, and the time it takes radio etc to get back to us, we could get feedback within a lifetime.

Which would be incredible.

art0hur0moh wrote:

art0hur0moh wrote:

art0hur0moh wrote:

LordRaven wrote:

art0hur0moh wrote:

Interesting Art, how anyone would get hold of the substance would require many centuries of scientific breakthroughs.

In the meantime, and a lot closer to home, this looks favourite for more destructive and faster space propulsion...



Creating it, or farming it is space, is impossible until containment is achieved.

But when it is, it will be a frightening, and yet awesome, prospect for the advancement of man in the cosmos.

A theoretical proposition that has significantly less traction today.

LordRaven wrote:

art0hur0moh wrote:

Interesting Art, how anyone would get hold of the substance would require many centuries of scientific breakthroughs.

In the meantime, and a lot closer to home, this looks favourite for more destructive and faster space propulsion...



Creating it, or farming it is space, is impossible until containment is achieved.

But when it is, it will be a frightening, and yet awesome, prospect for the advancement of man in the cosmos.

art0hur0moh wrote:

drum wrote:

art0hur0moh wrote:

LordRaven wrote:"Best map of Milky Way reveals a billion stars in motion
Data haul from Gaia space observatory offers a glimpse of what Earth’s night sky will look like for 1.6 million years to come."

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-03432-9

Science just keeps on finding out more and creating far more new questions to answer

there is no way of knowing that. No evidence to support theory.

What do you think of the Mars landing Arthur ?

art0hur0moh wrote:

LordRaven wrote:"Best map of Milky Way reveals a billion stars in motion
Data haul from Gaia space observatory offers a glimpse of what Earth’s night sky will look like for 1.6 million years to come."

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-03432-9

Science just keeps on finding out more and creating far more new questions to answer

there is no way of knowing that. No evidence to support theory.

LordRaven wrote:"Best map of Milky Way reveals a billion stars in motion
Data haul from Gaia space observatory offers a glimpse of what Earth’s night sky will look like for 1.6 million years to come."

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-03432-9

Science just keeps on finding out more and creating far more new questions to answer

art0hur0moh wrote:

art0hur0moh wrote:

LordRaven wrote:

art0hur0moh wrote:

LordRaven wrote:
Yes it is you stupid boy! You wait until the new space based telescopes are up and running, we will discover even more wonders and encounter even more puzzles that need solving.
It is how we learn.
It is called Science.

observation, theory, experiment, observation, hypothesis... peer review.

experiment, is data collected through observation. Science doesn't find out anything, people do buy observing the results of their effort without bias in an effort to prove their own theoretical predictions, babies and toddlers are masters of the scientific art. Most discoveries are made by accident, study is mostly a means to understand reason or purpose of observations discovered by accident.

scientia: knowledge. No observation, no science. Knowledge without understanding is like a ship without rudder. If your definition of science is knowing what questions to ask then it is partially true so long as the answers are not biased, and are based on methodical comprehension.

Thanks for agreeing

wrong! Particle physics dehydrate predictions where wrong and that was only thirty years ago. We will not know anything because we wont be alive. It might, and it might not! Is knowing the limitations of scientific investigation. Not neglecting the time it take for light to travel there is no indication anything we see exist as we see it in the first place! It is theoretical, not even evidence of a big bang!

"The mission has expanded its catalogue of stars by 15%, to 1.8 billion, and its measurements have become more precise. Compared with 2018, Gaia’s distance measurements are 50% better, and those of stellar velocities are 100% better, van Leeuwen says.

To achieve this improvement, the mission team had to overcome an unexpected issue with the probe. As the spacecraft spins, sunlight falls on it at varying angles, which slightly deforms its shape. This has affected its measurements of stellar positions more than expected."

That is what science is!