Elon Musk is buying Twitter again - for now

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Re: Elon Musk is buying Twitter again - for now

Post by Cactus Jack » Sat Jan 21, 2023 10:07 pm

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/ ... e3fc775a77

Don't believe what I tweet says Elon.

This allegedly relates to the real reason he bought Twitter.

For years now it has been said that Musk has been using Twitter to manipulate stock prices by cliamining an interest in buying stocks he is actually selling, saying he is divesting from companies he never held any stock in and shorting them and indicating this or that company is due to get a big order that never materialises but benefiting from the increase in the stock price.

Were Elon Musk to do any of those things in traditional media it would be a slam dunk fraud case - no questions asked - the full Bernie Madoff scenario and off to a lifetime vacation at Club Fed.

He didn't do them in traditional media he did them on Twitter.

He also put up posts and then deleted them and then referred to deleted posts - basically a lot of what he did was very, very shady and Twitter were going to turn over thousands of records they kept to the SEC.

And now those records aren't available, the people who used to know where they were work elsewhere and Twitter has policies that will be very obstructive to any investigation of his alleged wrongdoing.

$200 Billion well spent keeping Elon out of prision?

Re: Elon Musk is buying Twitter again - for now

Post by Jason » Sat Jan 21, 2023 9:22 pm

Unsurprisingly, Fenix is now dead as Twitter have now (un)officially killed off third party apps.

https://www.theverge.com/2023/1/19/2356 ... -ban-rules

I think that's pretty much all of them gone now.

Re: Elon Musk is buying Twitter again - for now

Post by Jason » Mon Jan 16, 2023 10:59 pm

Stooo wrote:
Jason wrote:
Stooo wrote:Twitter ads are a nightmare on mobile


https://stacksocial.com/sales/adguard-p ... bscription

Worth every penny. The free version works well enough as well.


Sadly it doesn't work, Musk stopped access to the API from third parties and gutted @TwitterSupport, the only chance you have to resolve issues is to contact Spacex and hope that someone gives a shit :dunno:

Tweetdeck is working for now but I kept getting random requests from the Twitter app all day to confirm posts that I had made days ago that have replies and likes :dunno:


Interesting. I've got AdGuard installed on my iPhone and I don't see a single ad in safari on Twitter.com.

The official Twitter app, of course, is a different thing entirely.

Fenix is one of the few third party iOS apps still working that's ad-free, so I'm using that but I'm not sure if the Android version works.

Re: Elon Musk is buying Twitter again - for now

Post by Stooo » Mon Jan 16, 2023 9:29 pm

Jason wrote:
Stooo wrote:Twitter ads are a nightmare on mobile


https://stacksocial.com/sales/adguard-p ... bscription

Worth every penny. The free version works well enough as well.


Sadly it doesn't work, Musk stopped access to the API from third parties and gutted @TwitterSupport, the only chance you have to resolve issues is to contact Spacex and hope that someone gives a shit :dunno:

Tweetdeck is working for now but I kept getting random requests from the Twitter app all day to confirm posts that I had made days ago that have replies and likes :dunno:

Re: Elon Musk is buying Twitter again - for now

Post by Cactus Jack » Mon Jan 16, 2023 9:09 pm

The Taliban are now a verified account on Twitter.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-64294613

Because they're into free speech.

Re: Elon Musk is buying Twitter again - for now

Post by Holly » Sun Jan 15, 2023 12:05 am

Cactus Jack wrote:
Holly wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:I think both Twitter and Facebook are becoming increasingly irrelevant either way.

When was the last time you saw an ad on either Facebook or Twitter and thought 'Oh I must buy that'?
Let me click on this link to who knows where and give someone I don't know permission to take all my personal data from my Twitter/Facebook account and share it with whoever the fuck they want?'

If one good thing came out of the Brexit referendum and election of Donald Trump it was the exposure of just how much data was being put out there by social media users and just how easy it was to use that data to manipulate them using it,

At it's most relevant Twitter was only the fifth most used social media platform and when I last heard it's way down at 15th - just barely above reddit.

Pretty soon this Forum will have more users, and I'm not expecting stoo to get a few million more members


Doesn't that work with all adds online no matter which platform you're using?

No but it all gets a bit technical and boring beyond that word.

Some companies, and some platforms, and some countries have rules that restrict what data that can be collected, shared and used. There are different interpretations about the level and specificity of consent required to have your personal data shared.

I'll give credit to this forum because it doesn't have ads and it doesn't collect personal data - stoo says he operates the forum at a small profit, and more power to him, but I have no idea how. And while we're in that space all due gratitude to the moderators like yourself who (I understand) work unpaid to keep this place running.



Awww, thank you CJ :more beer:

Re: Elon Musk is buying Twitter again - for now

Post by Cactus Jack » Sat Jan 14, 2023 11:14 pm

Holly wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:I think both Twitter and Facebook are becoming increasingly irrelevant either way.

When was the last time you saw an ad on either Facebook or Twitter and thought 'Oh I must buy that'?
Let me click on this link to who knows where and give someone I don't know permission to take all my personal data from my Twitter/Facebook account and share it with whoever the fuck they want?'

If one good thing came out of the Brexit referendum and election of Donald Trump it was the exposure of just how much data was being put out there by social media users and just how easy it was to use that data to manipulate them using it,

At it's most relevant Twitter was only the fifth most used social media platform and when I last heard it's way down at 15th - just barely above reddit.

Pretty soon this Forum will have more users, and I'm not expecting stoo to get a few million more members


Doesn't that work with all adds online no matter which platform you're using?

No but it all gets a bit technical and boring beyond that word.

Some companies, and some platforms, and some countries have rules that restrict what data that can be collected, shared and used. There are different interpretations about the level and specificity of consent required to have your personal data shared.

I'll give credit to this forum because it doesn't have ads and it doesn't collect personal data - stoo says he operates the forum at a small profit, and more power to him, but I have no idea how. And while we're in that space all due gratitude to the moderators like yourself who (I understand) work unpaid to keep this place running.

Re: Elon Musk is buying Twitter again - for now

Post by Holly » Sat Jan 14, 2023 9:34 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:I think both Twitter and Facebook are becoming increasingly irrelevant either way.

When was the last time you saw an ad on either Facebook or Twitter and thought 'Oh I must buy that'?
Let me click on this link to who knows where and give someone I don't know permission to take all my personal data from my Twitter/Facebook account and share it with whoever the fuck they want?'

If one good thing came out of the Brexit referendum and election of Donald Trump it was the exposure of just how much data was being put out there by social media users and just how easy it was to use that data to manipulate them using it,

At it's most relevant Twitter was only the fifth most used social media platform and when I last heard it's way down at 15th - just barely above reddit.

Pretty soon this Forum will have more users, and I'm not expecting stoo to get a few million more members


Doesn't that work with all adds online no matter which platform you're using?

Re: Elon Musk is buying Twitter again - for now

Post by Stooo » Sat Jan 14, 2023 4:31 pm

Jason wrote:
Stooo wrote:Twitter ads are a nightmare on mobile


https://stacksocial.com/sales/adguard-p ... bscription

Worth every penny. The free version works well enough as well.


Cheers ears :thumbsup:

Re: Elon Musk is buying Twitter again - for now

Post by Jason » Sat Jan 14, 2023 4:22 pm

Stooo wrote:Twitter ads are a nightmare on mobile


https://stacksocial.com/sales/adguard-p ... bscription

Worth every penny. The free version works well enough as well.

Re: Elon Musk is buying Twitter again - for now

Post by Stooo » Sat Jan 14, 2023 4:07 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:I think both Twitter and Facebook are becoming increasingly irrelevant either way.

When was the last time you saw an ad on either Facebook or Twitter and thought 'Oh I must buy that'?
Let me click on this link to who knows where and give someone I don't know permission to take all my personal data from my Twitter/Facebook account and share it with whoever the fuck they want?'

If one good thing came out of the Brexit referendum and election of Donald Trump it was the exposure of just how much data was being put out there by social media users and just how easy it was to use that data to manipulate them using it,

At it's most relevant Twitter was only the fifth most used social media platform and when I last heard it's way down at 15th - just barely above reddit.

Pretty soon this Forum will have more users, and I'm not expecting stoo to get a few million more members


Twitter ads are a nightmare on mobile. I have thick skin on my fingertips due to the cardboard that I handle all day absorbing the natural oil from my skin (yes I do use hand cream) and the amount of miss touches that I get on mobile is insane, these will obviously register as interest which drives even more ads :brickwall:

Re: Elon Musk is buying Twitter again - for now

Post by Cactus Jack » Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:05 am

I think both Twitter and Facebook are becoming increasingly irrelevant either way.

When was the last time you saw an ad on either Facebook or Twitter and thought 'Oh I must buy that'?
Let me click on this link to who knows where and give someone I don't know permission to take all my personal data from my Twitter/Facebook account and share it with whoever the fuck they want?'

If one good thing came out of the Brexit referendum and election of Donald Trump it was the exposure of just how much data was being put out there by social media users and just how easy it was to use that data to manipulate them using it,

At it's most relevant Twitter was only the fifth most used social media platform and when I last heard it's way down at 15th - just barely above reddit.

Pretty soon this Forum will have more users, and I'm not expecting stoo to get a few million more members

Re: Elon Musk is buying Twitter again - for now

Post by Jason » Fri Jan 13, 2023 11:04 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:
Jason wrote:Looks like Elon has ordered the Twitter API to be shut down as most, if not all, third party Twitter clients stopped working last night.

Tweetdeck is working but Twitter own that anyway.

I suspect he’s done it just to see what happens - no plan or forward thinking, just “see what happens”.

If he thinks it’ll mean increased ad revenue for Twitter then he’s likely to just kill it altogether.

I go in a different direction, mainly because I was expecting a breakdown like this when all the routine maintenance work stopped a few weeks ago, but your explanation is equally plausible.


I did read one comment earlier claiming to have heard from someone at Twitter that the API stopping working was "entirely intentional" but I suppose you have to take that with a pinch of salt.

I suppose Elon being Elon, it's not entirely out of the question to think he's likely only recently found out about third party apps and how they don't show adverts so he's decided on a whim to shut them down.

If he kills all third party apps then I suspect Mastodon will have a few thousand more joining up over the coming weeks.

Re: Elon Musk is buying Twitter again - for now

Post by Cactus Jack » Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:49 pm

Jason wrote:Looks like Elon has ordered the Twitter API to be shut down as most, if not all, third party Twitter clients stopped working last night.

Tweetdeck is working but Twitter own that anyway.

I suspect he’s done it just to see what happens - no plan or forward thinking, just “see what happens”.

If he thinks it’ll mean increased ad revenue for Twitter then he’s likely to just kill it altogether.

I go in a different direction, mainly because I was expecting a breakdown like this when all the routine maintenance work stopped a few weeks ago, but your explanation is equally plausible.

Re: Elon Musk is buying Twitter again - for now

Post by Jason » Fri Jan 13, 2023 1:20 pm

Looks like Elon has ordered the Twitter API to be shut down as most, if not all, third party Twitter clients stopped working last night.

Tweetdeck is working but Twitter own that anyway.

I suspect he’s done it just to see what happens - no plan or forward thinking, just “see what happens”.

If he thinks it’ll mean increased ad revenue for Twitter then he’s likely to just kill it altogether.

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