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Re: Why Are We Havimg All These People From Sh****** Countries H

Post by Guest » Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:16 pm

Maddog wrote:
Guest wrote:My comments highlighted how being informed of his ignorance and error the child doubled down, I thought the way in which I presented the comment was harsh but fair. The more are obviously more attuned to the boy's emotional fragility than I and I respect their judgement in not posting the deconstruction of his error and his emotional need to persist with it.



Well, Stoo and I are cyberlovers, so you can't blame him for protecting me from you. :wubwub:

I can't really blame you for throwing this tantrum. You must be so embarrassed by your ignorance.

Just treat it as another milestone on the road to adulthood Sonny.

Re: Why Are We Havimg All These People From Sh****** Countries H

Post by Maddog » Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:32 pm

Stooo wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Guest wrote:My comments highlighted how being informed of his ignorance and error the child doubled down, I thought the way in which I presented the comment was harsh but fair. The more are obviously more attuned to the boy's emotional fragility than I and I respect their judgement in not posting the deconstruction of his error and his emotional need to persist with it.



Well, Stoo and I are cyberlovers, so you can't blame him for protecting me from you. :wubwub:


It's more than cyber, thanks for the Christmas gifts :twirl:



:thumbsup:

Re: Why Are We Havimg All These People From Sh****** Countries H

Post by Stooo » Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:53 pm

Maddog wrote:
Guest wrote:My comments highlighted how being informed of his ignorance and error the child doubled down, I thought the way in which I presented the comment was harsh but fair. The more are obviously more attuned to the boy's emotional fragility than I and I respect their judgement in not posting the deconstruction of his error and his emotional need to persist with it.



Well, Stoo and I are cyberlovers, so you can't blame him for protecting me from you. :wubwub:


It's more than cyber, thanks for the Christmas gifts :twirl:

Re: Why Are We Havimg All These People From Sh****** Countries H

Post by Maddog » Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:47 pm

Guest wrote:My comments highlighted how being informed of his ignorance and error the child doubled down, I thought the way in which I presented the comment was harsh but fair. The more are obviously more attuned to the boy's emotional fragility than I and I respect their judgement in not posting the deconstruction of his error and his emotional need to persist with it.



Well, Stoo and I are cyberlovers, so you can't blame him for protecting me from you. :wubwub:

Re: Why Are We Havimg All These People From Sh****** Countries H

Post by Guest » Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:31 pm

My comments highlighted how being informed of his ignorance and error the child doubled down, I thought the way in which I presented the comment was harsh but fair. The more are obviously more attuned to the boy's emotional fragility than I and I respect their judgement in not posting the deconstruction of his error and his emotional need to persist with it.

Re: Why Are We Havimg All These People From Sh****** Countries H

Post by Puzzler » Sat Jan 20, 2018 12:47 pm

Guest wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Guest wrote:
Maddog wrote:

Do you think that will help?

I don't want people thinking I'm yelling. I would think a gentle reminder of the facts as presented by the US CENSUS DEPARTMENT would be adequate. :gigglesnshit:

OK Sonny let's introduce you to the real world. If you're not sure what the real world is ask you wet-nurse.

You can define money by how much there is or by the quality of life it can give you but you don't get to mix and match defying your own logic as you do so.

You can say that Qatar is a shithole that treats 95% of it's residents as subhuman, OK good for you and you can say that Qatar is a country that doesn't charge tax and lets businesses thrive but you don't get to separate those facts.

California is a place where almost everyone earns more than they do in Mississippi, Kentucky or Texas and can have a much better of life with the money they earn despite being poor. That is a fair and balanced statement

Poor people in California live better than middle income people in Mississippi and average income people in Texas. That is a fair and balanced statement

Mississippi and Texas are shitholes compared to Califoria, that is a fair and balanced statement.

Saying California is worse than Texas is like saying Qatar is better than the USA, that is a fair and balanced statement

Now obviously your Mommy is worried about her taxes and that's affecting you but don't worry Sonny, despite the cuts to welfare by Donald Trump you'll still, at the very least, get your gubmint cheese this month



A little more than 1 in 5 Californians—20.4 percent—live in poverty. The national average is 14.7 percent according to the Supplemental Poverty Measure which accounts for regional cost-of-living differences, out-of-pocket medical expenses and other items, unlike the older Official Poverty Measure.


Do you know what poverty means?

As I've commented on other threads, sometimes the moderators protect emotionally fragile forum members like you, and that's good because you're a special snowflake who needs to be protected.

I completely withdraw the censored comment, I shouldn't be so harsh on a child.

Wot a wanker you are guest.

Re: Why Are We Havimg All These People From Sh****** Countries H

Post by Guest » Sat Jan 20, 2018 12:46 am

Maddog wrote:
Guest wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Guest wrote:
Maddog wrote:Once again, California has the highest poverty rate in the nation, according to a new U.S. Census Bureau report.

A little more than 1 in 5 Californians—20.4 percent—live in poverty. The national average is 14.7 percent according to the Supplemental Poverty Measure which accounts for regional cost-of-living differences, out-of-pocket medical expenses and other items, unlike the older Official Poverty Measure.


A little refresher, for the illiterate. :gigglesnshit:

Perhaps if you put all caps - every thirteen year old knows that if you put it in all caps the fundamental flaws in your pre-pubescent understanding of the real world disappear.

Grow up Sonny. This isn't you Kindergarten debate class and you don't win by crying and demanding your blankie



Do you think that will help?

I don't want people thinking I'm yelling. I would think a gentle reminder of the facts as presented by the US CENSUS DEPARTMENT would be adequate. :gigglesnshit:

OK Sonny let's introduce you to the real world. If you're not sure what the real world is ask you wet-nurse.

You can define money by how much there is or by the quality of life it can give you but you don't get to mix and match defying your own logic as you do so.

You can say that Qatar is a shithole that treats 95% of it's residents as subhuman, OK good for you and you can say that Qatar is a country that doesn't charge tax and lets businesses thrive but you don't get to separate those facts.

California is a place where almost everyone earns more than they do in Mississippi, Kentucky or Texas and can have a much better of life with the money they earn despite being poor. That is a fair and balanced statement

Poor people in California live better than middle income people in Mississippi and average income people in Texas. That is a fair and balanced statement

Mississippi and Texas are shitholes compared to Califoria, that is a fair and balanced statement.

Saying California is worse than Texas is like saying Qatar is better than the USA, that is a fair and balanced statement

Now obviously your Mommy is worried about her taxes and that's affecting you but don't worry Sonny, despite the cuts to welfare by Donald Trump you'll still, at the very least, get your gubmint cheese this month



A little more than 1 in 5 Californians—20.4 percent—live in poverty. The national average is 14.7 percent according to the Supplemental Poverty Measure which accounts for regional cost-of-living differences, out-of-pocket medical expenses and other items, unlike the older Official Poverty Measure.


Do you know what poverty means?

As I've commented on other threads, sometimes the moderators protect emotionally fragile forum members like you, and that's good because you're a special snowflake who needs to be protected.

I completely withdraw the censored comment, I shouldn't be so harsh on a child.

Re: Why Are We Havimg All These People From Sh****** Countries H

Post by Maddog » Sat Jan 20, 2018 12:09 am

Guest wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Guest wrote:
Maddog wrote:Once again, California has the highest poverty rate in the nation, according to a new U.S. Census Bureau report.

A little more than 1 in 5 Californians—20.4 percent—live in poverty. The national average is 14.7 percent according to the Supplemental Poverty Measure which accounts for regional cost-of-living differences, out-of-pocket medical expenses and other items, unlike the older Official Poverty Measure.


A little refresher, for the illiterate. :gigglesnshit:

Perhaps if you put all caps - every thirteen year old knows that if you put it in all caps the fundamental flaws in your pre-pubescent understanding of the real world disappear.

Grow up Sonny. This isn't you Kindergarten debate class and you don't win by crying and demanding your blankie



Do you think that will help?

I don't want people thinking I'm yelling. I would think a gentle reminder of the facts as presented by the US CENSUS DEPARTMENT would be adequate. :gigglesnshit:

OK Sonny let's introduce you to the real world. If you're not sure what the real world is ask you wet-nurse.

You can define money by how much there is or by the quality of life it can give you but you don't get to mix and match defying your own logic as you do so.

You can say that Qatar is a shithole that treats 95% of it's residents as subhuman, OK good for you and you can say that Qatar is a country that doesn't charge tax and lets businesses thrive but you don't get to separate those facts.

California is a place where almost everyone earns more than they do in Mississippi, Kentucky or Texas and can have a much better of life with the money they earn despite being poor. That is a fair and balanced statement

Poor people in California live better than middle income people in Mississippi and average income people in Texas. That is a fair and balanced statement

Mississippi and Texas are shitholes compared to Califoria, that is a fair and balanced statement.

Saying California is worse than Texas is like saying Qatar is better than the USA, that is a fair and balanced statement

Now obviously your Mommy is worried about her taxes and that's affecting you but don't worry Sonny, despite the cuts to welfare by Donald Trump you'll still, at the very least, get your gubmint cheese this month



A little more than 1 in 5 Californians—20.4 percent—live in poverty. The national average is 14.7 percent according to the Supplemental Poverty Measure which accounts for regional cost-of-living differences, out-of-pocket medical expenses and other items, unlike the older Official Poverty Measure.


Do you know what poverty means?

Re: Why Are We Havimg All These People From Sh****** Countries H

Post by Guest » Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:52 pm

Maddog wrote:
Guest wrote:
Maddog wrote:Once again, California has the highest poverty rate in the nation, according to a new U.S. Census Bureau report.

A little more than 1 in 5 Californians—20.4 percent—live in poverty. The national average is 14.7 percent according to the Supplemental Poverty Measure which accounts for regional cost-of-living differences, out-of-pocket medical expenses and other items, unlike the older Official Poverty Measure.


A little refresher, for the illiterate. :gigglesnshit:

Perhaps if you put all caps - every thirteen year old knows that if you put it in all caps the fundamental flaws in your pre-pubescent understanding of the real world disappear.

Grow up Sonny. This isn't you Kindergarten debate class and you don't win by crying and demanding your blankie



Do you think that will help?

I don't want people thinking I'm yelling. I would think a gentle reminder of the facts as presented by the US CENSUS DEPARTMENT would be adequate. :gigglesnshit:

OK Sonny let's introduce you to the real world. If you're not sure what the real world is ask you wet-nurse.

You can define money by how much there is or by the quality of life it can give you but you don't get to mix and match defying your own logic as you do so.

You can say that Qatar is a shithole that treats 95% of it's residents as subhuman, OK good for you and you can say that Qatar is a country that doesn't charge tax and lets businesses thrive but you don't get to separate those facts.

California is a place where almost everyone earns more than they do in Mississippi, Kentucky or Texas and can have a much better of life with the money they earn despite being poor. That is a fair and balanced statement

Poor people in California live better than middle income people in Mississippi and average income people in Texas. That is a fair and balanced statement

Mississippi and Texas are shitholes compared to Califoria, that is a fair and balanced statement.

Saying California is worse than Texas is like saying Qatar is better than the USA, that is a fair and balanced statement

Now obviously your Mommy is worried about her taxes and that's affecting you but don't worry Sonny, despite the cuts to welfare by Donald Trump you'll still, at the very least, get your gubmint cheese this month

Re: Why Are We Havimg All These People From Sh****** Countries H

Post by Maddog » Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:37 pm

Guest wrote:
Maddog wrote:Once again, California has the highest poverty rate in the nation, according to a new U.S. Census Bureau report.

A little more than 1 in 5 Californians—20.4 percent—live in poverty. The national average is 14.7 percent according to the Supplemental Poverty Measure which accounts for regional cost-of-living differences, out-of-pocket medical expenses and other items, unlike the older Official Poverty Measure.


A little refresher, for the illiterate. :gigglesnshit:

Perhaps if you put all caps - every thirteen year old knows that if you put it in all caps the fundamental flaws in your pre-pubescent understanding of the real world disappear.

Grow up Sonny. This isn't you Kindergarten debate class and you don't win by crying and demanding your blankie



Do you think that will help?

I don't want people thinking I'm yelling. I would think a gentle reminder of the facts as presented by the US CENSUS DEPARTMENT would be adequate. :gigglesnshit:

Re: Why Are We Havimg All These People From Sh****** Countries H

Post by Guest » Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:28 pm

Maddog wrote:Once again, California has the highest poverty rate in the nation, according to a new U.S. Census Bureau report.

A little more than 1 in 5 Californians—20.4 percent—live in poverty. The national average is 14.7 percent according to the Supplemental Poverty Measure which accounts for regional cost-of-living differences, out-of-pocket medical expenses and other items, unlike the older Official Poverty Measure.


A little refresher, for the illiterate. :gigglesnshit:

Perhaps if you put all caps - every thirteen year old knows that if you put it in all caps the fundamental flaws in your pre-pubescent understanding of the real world disappear.

Grow up Sonny. This isn't you Kindergarten debate class and you don't win by crying and demanding your blankie

Re: Why Are We Havimg All These People From Sh****** Countries H

Post by Maddog » Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:56 pm

Once again, California has the highest poverty rate in the nation, according to a new U.S. Census Bureau report.

A little more than 1 in 5 Californians—20.4 percent—live in poverty. The national average is 14.7 percent according to the Supplemental Poverty Measure which accounts for regional cost-of-living differences, out-of-pocket medical expenses and other items, unlike the older Official Poverty Measure.


A little refresher, for the illiterate. :gigglesnshit:

Re: Why Are We Havimg All These People From Sh****** Countries H

Post by Maddog » Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:54 pm

McAz wrote:
Maddog wrote:Once again, California has the highest poverty rate in the nation, according to a new U.S. Census Bureau report.

A little more than 1 in 5 Californians—20.4 percent—live in poverty. The national average is 14.7 percent according to the Supplemental Poverty Measure which accounts for regional cost-of-living differences, out-of-pocket medical expenses and other items, unlike the older Official Poverty Measure.



https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckdevor ... 86cf0d5fb1

The actual US Census report is available at this link if you don't like Forbes. If you don't like the US Census report because it doesn't jive with your bias, I don't know what to tell you. :leer:

I don't why you think Brits would have a bias about relative poverty rates in US. That aside, I am intrigued by the Forbes' comparison between Texas and California, especially with regard to their demographic. If Texas should have worse poverty, why doesn't it?



See, you were wrong. :ooer:

Re: Why Are We Havimg All These People From Sh****** Countries H

Post by Guest » Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:47 pm

Maddog wrote:
Guest wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Guest wrote:California does not have the highest poverty rate, and I'm sorry I'm going to have to get all mathematical on you all again

There are various means of measuring poverty but the two most important are absolute poverty and relative poverty.

Absolute poverty is defined as a condition characterised by severe deprivation of basic human needs, including food, safe drinking water, sanitation facilities, health, shelter, education and information. It depends not only on income but also on access to services

Relative poverty is defined as the condition in which people lack the minimum amount of income needed in order to maintain the average standard of living in the society in which they live. There are various measure but a good rough guide is the number of people below 60% of the median income for that state.

A median is not an average - for the stream of numbers 1, 2, 3, 4, 500 the average is 102, the median is 3.

California counts itself as having a high relative poverty rate because wages and salaries in California are relatively high and for the AVERAGE citizen, and even the slightly below average one, the lifestyle is comfortable and 60% of the median wage is much higher than the American average - about $10,000 higher - Texas is much closer to the average, in fact just a couple of hundred bucks below the national average, and then you get the shithole states like Mississippi that are as far below the national average as California is above.

So California has a higher relative poverty rate because the average standard of living is higher.

Math can be fun.


Yes, the standard of living or the cost of living is higher.

Actual income is irrelevant. That's why the US census bureau ranks California with the highest poverty rate, because after all, it's all relative to what your money can buy.

When you don't understand something say so don't just pull something out of your ass.

There is an index for quality of life and whereas California doesn't come out on top it is far from the bottom

Image

While we're having fun with graphics let's add this one

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As you can see for every dollar in revenue the US worker generates he gets around 32 cents, the government gets 12 cents and the employers, usually big corporations get 44 cents. That's right if you add your cut and the government's cut of the revenue that YOU generate the corporations still get more.

Math can be informative as well as being fun



Who mentioned quality of life?

I said cost of living. :leer:

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I suppose that passes for humor in your high school class. Well I suppose we were all young and immature once

When Mommy is taking the baby-sitter home see if you can post more intelligently.

Re: Why Are We Havimg All These People From Sh****** Countries H

Post by Maddog » Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:56 pm

Guest wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Guest wrote:California does not have the highest poverty rate, and I'm sorry I'm going to have to get all mathematical on you all again

There are various means of measuring poverty but the two most important are absolute poverty and relative poverty.

Absolute poverty is defined as a condition characterised by severe deprivation of basic human needs, including food, safe drinking water, sanitation facilities, health, shelter, education and information. It depends not only on income but also on access to services

Relative poverty is defined as the condition in which people lack the minimum amount of income needed in order to maintain the average standard of living in the society in which they live. There are various measure but a good rough guide is the number of people below 60% of the median income for that state.

A median is not an average - for the stream of numbers 1, 2, 3, 4, 500 the average is 102, the median is 3.

California counts itself as having a high relative poverty rate because wages and salaries in California are relatively high and for the AVERAGE citizen, and even the slightly below average one, the lifestyle is comfortable and 60% of the median wage is much higher than the American average - about $10,000 higher - Texas is much closer to the average, in fact just a couple of hundred bucks below the national average, and then you get the shithole states like Mississippi that are as far below the national average as California is above.

So California has a higher relative poverty rate because the average standard of living is higher.

Math can be fun.


Yes, the standard of living or the cost of living is higher.

Actual income is irrelevant. That's why the US census bureau ranks California with the highest poverty rate, because after all, it's all relative to what your money can buy.

When you don't understand something say so don't just pull something out of your ass.

There is an index for quality of life and whereas California doesn't come out on top it is far from the bottom

Image

While we're having fun with graphics let's add this one

Image

As you can see for every dollar in revenue the US worker generates he gets around 32 cents, the government gets 12 cents and the employers, usually big corporations get 44 cents. That's right if you add your cut and the government's cut of the revenue that YOU generate the corporations still get more.

Math can be informative as well as being fun



Who mentioned quality of life?

I said cost of living. :leer:

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