by art0hur0moh » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:40 am
calitom wrote:Lady Murasaki wrote:calitom wrote:Lady Murasaki wrote:
Yes I do. We have deep intellectual thinkers now as well.
If you compare the average human now to then, awareness about the world around them and wider world has improved.
And people develop the skills they need to survive, I don’t need to carve my own spoons so I don’t know how but I’d learn pretty quickly if I needed to.
"we have deep intellectual thinkers now as well" yes we can agree there. But your whole reason--clearly stated by you--to bring up the we use more of our brains now was to bolster your opinion that the miracles didnt happen because now we can figure them out because we use more of our brains. I clearly pointed out that there were at lesast equal intellects back then...and that they experienced and believed miracles do happen...And that the 2 were NOT mutually exclusive.
-So unless you can figure out a way that a few loaves and a few fishes can be multiplied in the presence of thousands of witnesses--using modern science--then the use our brains more argument doesnt hold water.
Propaganda and a deep desire to believe in something can make it true for ‘you’.
We know more now about psychology, positive thinking can move mountains metaphorically.
Those intellectuals back then were living in a time where miracles weren’t under the same scrunity, you can only work with the audience/ material you have in front of you. The things they claim to have witnessed will have served a purpose.
these were eye witnesses lady. cut the crap
I remember hearing about a priest or Saint who was able to jump 12 feet in the air and a few other activities that at the time where considered to be impossible for a Man.
it was said to be impossible any Person to be able to run a mile in four minutes. People are just lazy and have no comprehension that they are the only Person who limits them Selve, unfairly blaming other for their Own incompetence. mindfulness, spirituality the Divine intelligence, influence, We are limited by the Words We have been taught to understand. Our language is very poor at being able to relate what is and what some People refuse to accept as truth. I have come to the conclusion, if atheists have no belief in anything why do they even bother trying to learn anything? they are not going to believe it anyway! I remember when I first learned the Word atheist there was a lot about religious philosophies I couldn't fundamentally agree with. but couldn't completely accept that the Word identified My logic. that is till I learned the Word Agnosticism. the tales of King Arthur for instance, (that was the fundamental shift in My thinking) Arthur is a word in greek similar to the Name Smith, Blackie, Farra, and all names derived from the smelting and refining of metals from stone into tools. the historical record is literally in the Names and Words We use, Words are Living things if used properly. even deaf People can comprehend what an extreme minority can't who functioning ears but incapable of Hearing.
You need to take the time into context, these People didn't do more than others. they accept they can do more than societies weak principles are willing to accept or permit.
[quote="calitom"][quote="Lady Murasaki"][quote="calitom"][quote="Lady Murasaki"]
Yes I do. We have deep intellectual thinkers now as well.
If you compare the average human now to then, awareness about the world around them and wider world has improved.
And people develop the skills they need to survive, I don’t need to carve my own spoons so I don’t know how but I’d learn pretty quickly if I needed to.[/quote]
"we have deep intellectual thinkers now as well" yes we can agree there. But your whole reason--clearly stated by you--to bring up the we use more of our brains now was to bolster your opinion that the miracles didnt happen because now we can figure them out because we use more of our brains. I clearly pointed out that there were at lesast equal intellects back then...and that they experienced and believed miracles do happen...And that the 2 were NOT mutually exclusive.
-So unless you can figure out a way that a few loaves and a few fishes can be multiplied in the presence of thousands of witnesses--using modern science--then the use our brains more argument doesnt hold water.[/quote]
Propaganda and a deep desire to believe in something can make it true for ‘you’.
We know more now about psychology, positive thinking can move mountains metaphorically.
Those intellectuals back then were living in a time where miracles weren’t under the same scrunity, you can only work with the audience/ material you have in front of you. The things they claim to have witnessed will have served a purpose.[/quote]
these were eye witnesses lady. cut the crap[/quote]
I remember hearing about a priest or Saint who was able to jump 12 feet in the air and a few other activities that at the time where considered to be impossible for a Man.
it was said to be impossible any Person to be able to run a mile in four minutes. People are just lazy and have no comprehension that they are the only Person who limits them Selve, unfairly blaming other for their Own incompetence. mindfulness, spirituality the Divine intelligence, influence, We are limited by the Words We have been taught to understand. Our language is very poor at being able to relate what is and what some People refuse to accept as truth. I have come to the conclusion, if atheists have no belief in anything why do they even bother trying to learn anything? they are not going to believe it anyway! I remember when I first learned the Word atheist there was a lot about religious philosophies I couldn't fundamentally agree with. but couldn't completely accept that the Word identified My logic. that is till I learned the Word Agnosticism. the tales of King Arthur for instance, (that was the fundamental shift in My thinking) Arthur is a word in greek similar to the Name Smith, Blackie, Farra, and all names derived from the smelting and refining of metals from stone into tools. the historical record is literally in the Names and Words We use, Words are Living things if used properly. even deaf People can comprehend what an extreme minority can't who functioning ears but incapable of Hearing.
You need to take the time into context, these People didn't do more than others. they accept they can do more than societies weak principles are willing to accept or permit.