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Re: Mothers send sons to Somalia to avoid knife crime

Post by Niv » Wed Mar 13, 2019 4:22 pm

jra wrote:
ATXn;D wrote:
Cannydc wrote:
Dinkydoobie wrote:"British teenagers are being sent by their parents to Somalia, itself recovering from a series of terror attacks, because of concern that the police cannot protect them from knife crime.

Representatives from north London’s Somali community say hundreds of children have been flown to Somalia, Somaliland and Kenya because of rising concerns over drug gangs and county lines, the criminal networks that use children to transport drugs from cities to the provinces.

In a series of interviews, Somali mothers who arrived in London after fleeing their country during its 1990s civil war told the Observer that many of their sons had asked to leave the UK because of drug gangs and the threat of violence."

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... nife-crime

The state of London. How bad is it when people are fleeing to Somalia lol


Makes a nice change to sending their daughters to Somalia to have their genitals sliced apart with a rusty razor blade, then sewn up, with no anesthetic...


Xenophobia much :wink:


I'm willing to bet that illegal FGM has been carried out in the UK as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_ge ... ed_Kingdom


It has indeed.

On 1st February 2019, Britain lodged it's first successful conviction for FGM, it has in fact been illegal here since 1985. A mother and her partner were charged with performing the procedure, although only the mother was found guilty. The Judge has stated she would receive a "lenthy" sentence. He was true to his word, she was sentenced to 14 yrs on 8th March 2019.

There are also steps being considered to amend the Childrens' Act in order for the Courts to be able to issues Protection Orders if they think a girl is at risk of FGM.
Sadly, backbench Conservative Sir Christopher Chope, blocked a FMG related Private Members Bill passing it's Second Reading in the House of Commons. :shake head:

Re: Mothers send sons to Somalia to avoid knife crime

Post by Cannydc » Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:47 am

ATXn;D wrote:
Cannydc wrote:
Dinkydoobie wrote:"British teenagers are being sent by their parents to Somalia, itself recovering from a series of terror attacks, because of concern that the police cannot protect them from knife crime.

Representatives from north London’s Somali community say hundreds of children have been flown to Somalia, Somaliland and Kenya because of rising concerns over drug gangs and county lines, the criminal networks that use children to transport drugs from cities to the provinces.

In a series of interviews, Somali mothers who arrived in London after fleeing their country during its 1990s civil war told the Observer that many of their sons had asked to leave the UK because of drug gangs and the threat of violence."

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... nife-crime

The state of London. How bad is it when people are fleeing to Somalia lol


Makes a nice change to sending their daughters to Somalia to have their genitals sliced apart with a rusty razor blade, then sewn up, with no anesthetic...


Xenophobia much :wink:


Perhaps you should read a bit more before making such childish comments.

"Most girls in Somalia experience genital mutilation." "The father of a 10-year-old girl who died after undergoing female genital mutilation (FGM) in Somalia has defended the practice."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wor ... 40fea1d912

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-44918795

Re: Mothers send sons to Somalia to avoid knife crime

Post by jra » Wed Mar 13, 2019 5:51 am

Dinkydoobie wrote:
Grafenwalder wrote:Other than being the capital i'm not sure why people obsess over London as the total knife crime figures outside London is much higher than in.

With help from organised crime gangs branching out instead of competing in the city.

It's also not true that knife crime is higher outside of london. homicides with a knife as the weapon are higher per 100,000 in other areas but knife crime is 3 times higher in London than anywhere else.


That's not teally what Raven said though is it. Total knife crime figures outside of London mean the total for the whole of the rest of the UK.

Re: Mothers send sons to Somalia to avoid knife crime

Post by jra » Wed Mar 13, 2019 5:42 am

ATXn;D wrote:
Cannydc wrote:
Dinkydoobie wrote:"British teenagers are being sent by their parents to Somalia, itself recovering from a series of terror attacks, because of concern that the police cannot protect them from knife crime.

Representatives from north London’s Somali community say hundreds of children have been flown to Somalia, Somaliland and Kenya because of rising concerns over drug gangs and county lines, the criminal networks that use children to transport drugs from cities to the provinces.

In a series of interviews, Somali mothers who arrived in London after fleeing their country during its 1990s civil war told the Observer that many of their sons had asked to leave the UK because of drug gangs and the threat of violence."

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... nife-crime

The state of London. How bad is it when people are fleeing to Somalia lol


Makes a nice change to sending their daughters to Somalia to have their genitals sliced apart with a rusty razor blade, then sewn up, with no anesthetic...


Xenophobia much :wink:


I'm willing to bet that illegal FGM has been carried out in the UK as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_ge ... ed_Kingdom

Re: Mothers send sons to Somalia to avoid knife crime

Post by ATXn;D » Wed Mar 13, 2019 2:56 am

Cannydc wrote:
Dinkydoobie wrote:"British teenagers are being sent by their parents to Somalia, itself recovering from a series of terror attacks, because of concern that the police cannot protect them from knife crime.

Representatives from north London’s Somali community say hundreds of children have been flown to Somalia, Somaliland and Kenya because of rising concerns over drug gangs and county lines, the criminal networks that use children to transport drugs from cities to the provinces.

In a series of interviews, Somali mothers who arrived in London after fleeing their country during its 1990s civil war told the Observer that many of their sons had asked to leave the UK because of drug gangs and the threat of violence."

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... nife-crime

The state of London. How bad is it when people are fleeing to Somalia lol


Makes a nice change to sending their daughters to Somalia to have their genitals sliced apart with a rusty razor blade, then sewn up, with no anesthetic...


Xenophobia much :wink:

Re: Mothers send sons to Somalia to avoid knife crime

Post by LordRaven » Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:00 pm

Dinkydoobie wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:Knife crime trebles in parts of Wales, Home Office says
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-47502284

Knife crime is rising in wales in part because of organised crime. you've got gangs coming in from from liverpool, manchester, and london. Same with the home counties - knife crime is rising there because of gangs spreading out from london.

And here's a snippet from your bbc link

"For every 100,000 people in the capital, there were 168 knife offences in 2017-18...

Next highest was the West Midlands, with 72 knife offences per 100,000 population, and Yorkshire and the Humber, 79."


Drugs, gangs and knives seem to be correlated. I do wish the Police would cease bullying the motorist and tackle this epidemic head on.

Re: Mothers send sons to Somalia to avoid knife crime

Post by Dinkydoobie » Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:58 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:Knife crime trebles in parts of Wales, Home Office says
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-47502284

Knife crime is rising in wales in part because of organised crime. you've got gangs coming in from from liverpool, manchester, and london. Same with the home counties - knife crime is rising there because of gangs spreading out from london.

And here's a snippet from your bbc link

"For every 100,000 people in the capital, there were 168 knife offences in 2017-18...

Next highest was the West Midlands, with 72 knife offences per 100,000 population, and Yorkshire and the Humber, 79."

Re: Mothers send sons to Somalia to avoid knife crime

Post by LordRaven » Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:22 pm

Guest wrote:Ban knives, It's only uneducated British scumbags who carry them.
Ban them and it will instantly stop Knife crime. Look at Australia hardly any Knife crime there.


Far too many lovely kitchen knives around for that to have any effect but why on earth do they allow people to buy zombie knives etc in cities?

Re: Mothers send sons to Somalia to avoid knife crime

Post by LordRaven » Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:19 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:Ten charts on the rise of knife crime in England and Wales
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42749089


Does that correlate to Mrs May telling the police they were getting numbers cut and also the stopping of stop and search because people like Diane Abbot complained that far too many black people were getting stopped unfairly?
Just asking.

Re: Mothers send sons to Somalia to avoid knife crime

Post by Guest » Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:18 pm

Ban knives, It's only uneducated British scumbags who carry them.
Ban them and it will instantly stop Knife crime. Look at Australia hardly any Knife crime there.

Re: Mothers send sons to Somalia to avoid knife crime

Post by Rolluplostinspace » Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:12 pm

Ten charts on the rise of knife crime in England and Wales
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42749089

Re: Mothers send sons to Somalia to avoid knife crime

Post by Rolluplostinspace » Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:11 pm

Knife crime trebles in parts of Wales, Home Office says
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-47502284

Re: Mothers send sons to Somalia to avoid knife crime

Post by LordRaven » Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:15 pm

Dinkydoobie wrote:
Grafenwalder wrote:Other than being the capital i'm not sure why people obsess over London as the total knife crime figures outside London is much higher than in.

With help from organised crime gangs branching out instead of competing in the city.

It's also not true that knife crime is higher outside of london. homicides with a knife as the weapon are higher per 100,000 in other areas but knife crime is 3 times higher in London than anywhere else.


It really is mental! Something needs to be done about this epidemic

Re: Mothers send sons to Somalia to avoid knife crime

Post by Dinkydoobie » Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:57 pm

Grafenwalder wrote:Other than being the capital i'm not sure why people obsess over London as the total knife crime figures outside London is much higher than in.

With help from organised crime gangs branching out instead of competing in the city.

It's also not true that knife crime is higher outside of london. homicides with a knife as the weapon are higher per 100,000 in other areas but knife crime is 3 times higher in London than anywhere else.
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Re: Mothers send sons to Somalia to avoid knife crime

Post by Grafenwalder » Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:51 pm

Other than being the capital i'm not sure why people obsess over London as the total knife crime figures outside London is much higher than in. Londons figure is high purely for no other reason that millions of folk live there! The media doesn't help much continually pumping this image of "knife crime London" as though it doesn't happen elsewhere.

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