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Re: The Trans Thread #2

Post by Guest » Mon May 06, 2024 4:59 am

Stooo wrote:
Guest wrote:Really? Says a man who believes in “chest feeding and person with ovaries.”
Biologically, you’ve gone past bordering on insane.
Big clue. Don’t fuck with nature, it always ends badly.
How on earth you justify all this shit is beyond comprehension.


No, says a mod who points out that you don't know how to format.

You need to stop being a victim and get a life.


What does that even mean?
Please explain.

Re: The Trans Thread #2

Post by Stooo » Sun May 05, 2024 9:36 pm

Guest wrote:Really? Says a man who believes in “chest feeding and person with ovaries.”
Biologically, you’ve gone past bordering on insane.
Big clue. Don’t fuck with nature, it always ends badly.
How on earth you justify all this shit is beyond comprehension.


No, says a mod who points out that you don't know how to format.

You need to stop being a victim and get a life.

Re: The Trans Thread #2

Post by Guest » Sat May 04, 2024 11:39 pm

Stooo wrote:
Guest wrote:
Stooo wrote:
Toke 'n' gesture wrote:FFS :shake head:

Six trustees of a nationwide breastfeeding support group have been suspended for demanding that biological men be excluded from their services.

The British wing of La Leche League (LLL), which gives mother-to-mother support to those finding it hard to breastfeed, has been told by its US-based board of directors that the service cannot be single sex and they must support “male lactation”.

They were also told that the use of the term “mother” could be a “roadblock”, and that questioning gender ideology was “harmful”.


https://archive.ph/2024.05.01-194310/ht ... ans-women/


What a fucked up world we now live in. :pukeup:
Only pre-op trans men can breastfeed :ooer:


What a fucked up quote, get a grip.

Really? Says a man who believes in “chest feeding and person with ovaries.”
Biologically, you’ve gone past bordering on insane.
Big clue. Don’t fuck with nature, it always ends badly.
How on earth you justify all this shit is beyond comprehension.

Re: The Trans Thread #2

Post by Stooo » Sat May 04, 2024 2:20 pm

Guest wrote:
Stooo wrote:
Toke 'n' gesture wrote:FFS :shake head:

Six trustees of a nationwide breastfeeding support group have been suspended for demanding that biological men be excluded from their services.

The British wing of La Leche League (LLL), which gives mother-to-mother support to those finding it hard to breastfeed, has been told by its US-based board of directors that the service cannot be single sex and they must support “male lactation”.

They were also told that the use of the term “mother” could be a “roadblock”, and that questioning gender ideology was “harmful”.


https://archive.ph/2024.05.01-194310/ht ... ans-women/


What a fucked up world we now live in. :pukeup:
Only pre-op trans men can breastfeed :ooer:


What a fucked up quote, get a grip.

Re: The Trans Thread #2

Post by Guest » Fri May 03, 2024 7:43 pm

Stooo wrote:
Toke 'n' gesture wrote:FFS :shake head:

Six trustees of a nationwide breastfeeding support group have been suspended for demanding that biological men be excluded from their services.

The British wing of La Leche League (LLL), which gives mother-to-mother support to those finding it hard to breastfeed, has been told by its US-based board of directors that the service cannot be single sex and they must support “male lactation”.

They were also told that the use of the term “mother” could be a “roadblock”, and that questioning gender ideology was “harmful”.


https://archive.ph/2024.05.01-194310/ht ... ans-women/


What a fucked up world we now live in. :pukeup:
Only pre-op trans men can breastfeed :ooer:

Re: The Trans Thread #2

Post by Middens » Thu May 02, 2024 8:21 pm

Toke 'n' gesture wrote:FFS :shake head:

Six trustees of a nationwide breastfeeding support group have been suspended for demanding that biological men be excluded from their services.

The British wing of La Leche League (LLL), which gives mother-to-mother support to those finding it hard to breastfeed, has been told by its US-based board of directors that the service cannot be single sex and they must support “male lactation”.

They were also told that the use of the term “mother” could be a “roadblock”, and that questioning gender ideology was “harmful”.


https://archive.ph/2024.05.01-194310/ht ... ans-women/


I wonder if they'll be sacked given the recent unfair dismissal court cases here in the UK.

Re: The Trans Thread #2

Post by Stooo » Thu May 02, 2024 8:12 pm

Toke 'n' gesture wrote:FFS :shake head:

Six trustees of a nationwide breastfeeding support group have been suspended for demanding that biological men be excluded from their services.

The British wing of La Leche League (LLL), which gives mother-to-mother support to those finding it hard to breastfeed, has been told by its US-based board of directors that the service cannot be single sex and they must support “male lactation”.

They were also told that the use of the term “mother” could be a “roadblock”, and that questioning gender ideology was “harmful”.


https://archive.ph/2024.05.01-194310/ht ... ans-women/


Only pre-op trans men can breastfeed :ooer:

Re: The Trans Thread #2

Post by Toke 'n' gesture » Thu May 02, 2024 6:43 pm

FFS :shake head:

Six trustees of a nationwide breastfeeding support group have been suspended for demanding that biological men be excluded from their services.

The British wing of La Leche League (LLL), which gives mother-to-mother support to those finding it hard to breastfeed, has been told by its US-based board of directors that the service cannot be single sex and they must support “male lactation”.

They were also told that the use of the term “mother” could be a “roadblock”, and that questioning gender ideology was “harmful”.


https://archive.ph/2024.05.01-194310/ht ... ans-women/

Re: The Trans Thread #2

Post by Stooo » Wed May 01, 2024 8:48 pm

IamtheWalrus wrote:
Stooo wrote:And there's no other agenda?

Right-wing media use Cass Report to justify violence against parents of trans youth


This is what we are seeing with the Cass report, and why it's important to make sure we do not fall into the same trap with fallacious logic and clinging to our existing opinions/biases


I'm not really a biased person but I am a massive fan of logic, I've always found that it helps to shape your opinion rather than faith does. Hoping for something to happen doesn't make it happen.

Re: The Trans Thread #2

Post by IamtheWalrus » Wed May 01, 2024 12:47 pm



Whilst I'm reluctant to play the "genetic fallacy" = (dismissing something on the source rather than the content itself) it's worth pointing out that Pink News is unashamedly partisan.

However, the most important thing is to point out the general way scientific studies get reported on by the media and then waved around/dismissed depending on whether they support/debunk your opinion.

The most obvious example would be studies relating to weight loss - because weight loss is extremely tribal, for the simple reason that if someone loses a lot of weight on diet A then they become religious about diet A, likewise if Diet B didn't work for them then they become just as religious that diet B doesn't work.

Hence why a lot of people believe that "carbs make you fat" and that "counting calories" or "calories in, calories out" doesn't work.

Now let's say a study comes out that says Diet A doesn't work:

Supporters of Diet A will say:

"the study wasn't long enough!"

"the study didn't have enough participants!"

"the study didn't monitor closely enough what the participants ate!"

"this wasn't a proper Diet A"

"the study was funded by people who make Diet B foods!"



And then all of the supporters of Diet B will say that the study was exceptional, flawless etc.

Then when a study of Diet B comes out, then the roles are reversed.


This is what we are seeing with the Cass report, and why it's important to make sure we do not fall into the same trap with fallacious logic and clinging to our existing opinions/biases

Re: The Trans Thread #2

Post by Guest » Tue Apr 30, 2024 9:09 pm

Toke 'n' gesture wrote:
A social worker who was suspended over her gender critical views has been awarded almost £58,000 in damages from Westminster city council and Social Work England.
In what lawyers described as an unprecedented move by a court to award exemplary damages against a regulator, an employment tribunal called for both the council and the watchdog to train their staff in the principles of freedom of speech.


https://archive.ph/2024.04.28-204947/ht ... -2b7c337n7

A verdict of common sense overriding the bullies who put this woman through hell, and tried to destroy her life in a despicable manner.
This is excellent news.

Re: The Trans Thread #2

Post by Stooo » Tue Apr 30, 2024 8:12 pm

Middens wrote:
Stooo wrote:
Middens wrote:The Greens and the SNP have fell out. The SNP pausing puberty blockers while they digest the evidence of the Cass report on children's health seems to be one of the major causes.

The SNP appear to want treatment based on research and clinical evidence; however the Greens want to treat children based on anecdotal and "lived" experience.


The Cass report is at best an opinion. You only need to look at the sources and dig around a bit.


Well a lot of the trans rights people have been claiming it's far right propaganda. However most organisations accept it's a well-researched paper done by a highly qualified paediatrician. It relies on quality clinical evidence rather than poor quality studies, personal beliefs or personal anecdotes.

It's actually a sign that transgender healthcare (at least in children) is beginning to be treated seriously with it getting the same scrutiny and expectations of standards as every other area of healthcare. I think the quacks and chancers are afraid of that as there's money to be made out of the parents of vulnerable children.


And there's no other agenda?

Right-wing media use Cass Report to justify violence against parents of trans youth

These are a tiny amount of people who have always been there so why are they suddenly marginalised?

Re: The Trans Thread #2

Post by Middens » Tue Apr 30, 2024 1:28 pm

Stooo wrote:
Middens wrote:The Greens and the SNP have fell out. The SNP pausing puberty blockers while they digest the evidence of the Cass report on children's health seems to be one of the major causes.

The SNP appear to want treatment based on research and clinical evidence; however the Greens want to treat children based on anecdotal and "lived" experience.


The Cass report is at best an opinion. You only need to look at the sources and dig around a bit.


Well a lot of the trans rights people have been claiming it's far right propaganda. However most organisations accept it's a well-researched paper done by a highly qualified paediatrician. It relies on quality clinical evidence rather than poor quality studies, personal beliefs or personal anecdotes.

It's actually a sign that transgender healthcare (at least in children) is beginning to be treated seriously with it getting the same scrutiny and expectations of standards as every other area of healthcare. I think the quacks and chancers are afraid of that as there's money to be made out of the parents of vulnerable children.

Re: The Trans Thread #2

Post by Stooo » Mon Apr 29, 2024 6:19 pm

Middens wrote:That's Humza Useless on the way out. This gender stuff really destroys political careers.


More to do with comms and timing. The heydays of the SNP are over, Frank, get the doooor!

Re: The Trans Thread #2

Post by Stooo » Mon Apr 29, 2024 6:17 pm

Middens wrote:The Greens and the SNP have fell out. The SNP pausing puberty blockers while they digest the evidence of the Cass report on children's health seems to be one of the major causes.

The SNP appear to want treatment based on research and clinical evidence; however the Greens want to treat children based on anecdotal and "lived" experience.


The Cass report is at best an opinion. You only need to look at the sources and dig around a bit.

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