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[quote="calitom"][quote="Gigolo"]That was a kind of pointless pseudo post.[/quote]

your mentioning of fracking when it has nothing to do with this was the issue[/quote]Fracking uses water. The hydrogen production described uses water. Are you certain that which uses less is not an issue?
The other issue is the fracking water is polluted.

[quote="Gigolo"]That was a kind of pointless pseudo post.[/quote]

your mentioning of fracking when it has nothing to do with this was the issue

That was a kind of pointless pseudo post.

[quote="Gigolo"][youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLJ4FH7q0EQ[/youtube]

That is Na (sodium) + H2O = NaOH (sodium hydroxide) + ½ H2 + 140 kJ/mole.

Sodium can be produced from the sodium hydroxide, via the Castner process:

[img]http://image.tutorvista.com/content/s-block-elements/castners-process.jpeg[/img]

Note that Castner also produces hydrogen.

The 140 kJ/mole offsets the energy required for Castner.

You basically have a cycle which only requires water. Sodium hydroxide does not react with iron. It uses less water than fracking and you later get the water back.[/quote]
uses less water than fracking?--are we comparing chemical processes to mechanical processes now? kinda pointless

Also, no chlorine via Castner.

The point about going via Castner is you get a cycle. The sodium is produced from sodium hydroxide. The sodium/water reaction then produces sodium hydroxide.

Cheeper using electrolisis. Even cheeper using the new generation of Russian nuclear reactors. Hydrogen is a by product and renders plutonium safe.

Better than the old military munition production reactors.

You can also get the metal simply distilling sea water... Salt...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLJ4FH7q0EQ[/youtube]

That is Na (sodium) + H2O = NaOH (sodium hydroxide) + ½ H2 + 140 kJ/mole.

Sodium can be produced from the sodium hydroxide, via the Castner process:

[img]http://image.tutorvista.com/content/s-block-elements/castners-process.jpeg[/img]

Note that Castner also produces hydrogen.

The 140 kJ/mole offsets the energy required for Castner.

You basically have a cycle which only requires water. Sodium hydroxide does not react with iron. It uses less water than fracking and you later get the water back.