SHELL.SHE REALLY STILL IS THE BIGGEST CUNT ON FORUMS Part11

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Re: SHELL.SHE REALLY STILL IS THE BIGGEST CUNT ON FORUMS Part11

Postby Claire » Sun Aug 21, 2011 5:10 pm

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Threatening to report someone to the police in order to try to ensure that their job is compromised is very much taking things to real life and as you know from those cached pages that were posted here before, Ginny Talbot was keen to draw attention to the fact that her going to the police could have serious implications for some people's jobs. That was why she did it and why she was seeking your approval.

It was spiteful and most definitely an attempt to jeopardise people's careers. That was what sandybeaches did and it is was Ginny Talbot and you were also trying to do. It's only the way of going about it that was different.

Had these people broken the law? I don't uderstand why Ginny was going to the Police and I can't remember if it was mentioned in the cached pages.


No, they'd called some DS posters nasty names on DTV, but that isn't breaking the law last time I checked. Also, Ginny wasn't going to the police she was going to the "authorities" (looking at the cached pages) by which she meant the person's employer. As Armalite, he was watching it all very closely at the time, he can confirm what Ginny was up to.


So the person was employed by the "authorities"? I won't ask Armalite thanks. If s/he posts in a name I am familiar with I might but I loathe cowards.
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Re: SHELL.SHE REALLY STILL IS THE BIGGEST CUNT ON FORUMS Part11

Postby Claire » Sun Aug 21, 2011 5:13 pm

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Threatening to report someone to the police in order to try to ensure that their job is compromised is very much taking things to real life and as you know from those cached pages that were posted here before, Ginny Talbot was keen to draw attention to the fact that her going to the police could have serious implications for some people's jobs. That was why she did it and why she was seeking your approval.

It was spiteful and most definitely an attempt to jeopardise people's careers. That was what sandybeaches did and it is what Ginny Talbot and you were also trying to do. It's only the way of going about it that was different.

Had these people broken the law? I don't uderstand why Ginny was going to the Police and I can't remember if it was mentioned in the cached pages.


Spite.

No laws broken - just spite.


Any idea what she was going to report them FOR?


Basically the same sort of things you complain about DTV doing. Different set of DTV members, and different people they disliked on DS, but same principles.

All unpleasant behaviour, but should people really be sacked for it?

So they were going to report them for posts they made on a forum using an alias? Report them to the Police? Or their employer? What employer would take that seriously? I know Goldy's mad e-mail to mine was treated with the contempt it deserved. Why were they so worried about posts on a forum being reported to whomever?
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Re: SHELL.SHE REALLY STILL IS THE BIGGEST CUNT ON FORUMS Part11

Postby Guest » Sun Aug 21, 2011 5:31 pm

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Had these people broken the law? I don't uderstand why Ginny was going to the Police and I can't remember if it was mentioned in the cached pages.


Spite.

No laws broken - just spite.


Any idea what she was going to report them FOR?


Basically the same sort of things you complain about DTV doing. Different set of DTV members, and different people they disliked on DS, but same principles.

All unpleasant behaviour, but should people really be sacked for it?

So they were going to report them for posts they made on a forum using an alias? Report them to the Police? Or their employer? What employer would take that seriously? I know Goldy's mad e-mail to mine was treated with the contempt it deserved. Why were they so worried about posts on a forum being reported to whomever?


Whatever their skewed "justification" for doing so was, the actual objective was just to try to cause embarrassment, and if Ginny's posts to Bigfeet on Chattabox are anything to go by, to try to cause trouble for them with their employers by suggesting that there was misconduct. It's difficult to be specific as individual employers have their own rules about what is deemed to be misconduct in their own workplace - particularly with regard to IT procedures and its misuse in work time or on workplace PCs. She made a lot of the fact that some people had "high-profile jobs" so it would seem that Ginny felt that this made them fair game to be reported.
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Re: SHELL.SHE REALLY STILL IS THE BIGGEST CUNT ON FORUMS Part11

Postby Guest » Sun Aug 21, 2011 5:44 pm

Claire wrote:Also, why did Walford go to the police?


Her real life details and employer were posted, with the encouragement to people to write to her boss and get her sacked.
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Re: SHELL.SHE REALLY STILL IS THE BIGGEST CUNT ON FORUMS Part11

Postby Guest » Sun Aug 21, 2011 5:51 pm

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Basically the same sort of things you complain about DTV doing. Different set of DTV members, and different people they disliked on DS, but same principles.

All unpleasant behaviour, but should people really be sacked for it?

So they were going to report them for posts they made on a forum using an alias? Report them to the Police? Or their employer? What employer would take that seriously? I know Goldy's mad e-mail to mine was treated with the contempt it deserved. Why were they so worried about posts on a forum being reported to whomever?


Some employers have very strict IT policies. Equally some employers use software which blocks forums and social networking sites. And some employers would launch an investigation in any event whether the allegations were true or not. You were fortunate that your employer was sensible and treated the email with contempt. I would hope my current boss would be the same, but the one before would have loved the opportunity to be a jobsworth on one more "issue"!
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Re: Thanks Edna

Postby Snuffleupagus » Sun Aug 21, 2011 5:55 pm

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Snuffleupagus wrote:- Thanks Edna, while I was waiting up on taxi duty last night I had a more in-depth look at your "more DTV" thread. Mebbe you've only recently made all those screengrabs near the start of the thread viewable to non-members, or perhaps I just didn't read them before. Anyways, turns out that in those many grabs from DS there are quite a few posts supporting me/Bigfeet. I hadn't seen that thread before, so cheers. :cuppaT:

Also, why exactly were you screengrabbing page after page after page of a DS thread discussing the whole "Facebook group" and the fallout that followed? :wurms:



I'm just reading her grabs now. Interesting to see posters saying about DTVers ganging up and MAW denying it. Deja vu. :laughing:



Is funny, isn't it. :mrgreen:
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Re: SHELL.SHE REALLY STILL IS THE BIGGEST CUNT ON FORUMS Part11

Postby Claire » Sun Aug 21, 2011 5:56 pm

Whatever their skewed "justification" for doing so was, the actual objective was just to try to cause embarrassment, and if Ginny's posts to Bigfeet on Chattabox are anything to go by, to try to cause trouble for them with their employers by suggesting that there was misconduct. It's difficult to be specific as individual employers have their own rules about what is deemed to be misconduct in their own workplace - particularly with regard to IT procedures and its misuse in work time or on workplace PCs. She made a lot of the fact that some people had "high-profile jobs" so it would seem that Ginny felt that this made them fair game to be reported.


I am completely against ANYONE reporting people to their employers because of posts on a forum. If Ginny did this she is a cunt. If she threatened it, she is also a cunt. I also believe that anyone who posts with people who have did that have very skewed morals, but it's their lookout.

Snuffs, I am asking you directly. Was Ginny going to write to posters employers?
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Re: SHELL.SHE REALLY STILL IS THE BIGGEST CUNT ON FORUMS Part11

Postby Guest » Sun Aug 21, 2011 6:00 pm

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I don't "hate" DTV. I saw the screenshots. I didn't see any threats about getting people sacked, only to report them to the authorities for something or other.


There was loads more than what was posted on here. If you weren't paying attention to the whole FB thing at the time, then you wouldn't be aware. There was definitely a campaign to get someone sacked for posting on DTV.


Well that was wrong and if Snuffs was involved I wouldn't post on a forum she was on. The same way I won't post on FH because of someone on there who did that very thing.


Yes, it was wrong, very wrong. Snuffs is never going to admit to it, especially when you've stated so clearly you wouldn't post alongside her if she was involved.

I know what Sandybeaches did to you, and that too was wrong. No flame war on a forum should ever cross that line into real life.



Funny as fuck though, and Claire deserved every bit of it. Can't really see what the Police can do though, contacting employers about employees using paid work time to post on hate forums isn't a criminal offence, neither is taking a photo else street view would be fucked. :Hiya: crack on though.
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Re: SHELL.SHE REALLY STILL IS THE BIGGEST CUNT ON FORUMS Part11

Postby Snuffleupagus » Sun Aug 21, 2011 6:02 pm

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- so you agree that going to the police is not the same as "taking things to RL", ie stalking?


Threatening to report someone to the police in order to try to ensure that their job is compromised is very much taking things to real life and as you know from those cached pages that were posted here before, Ginny Talbot was keen to draw attention to the fact that her going to the police could have serious implications for some people's jobs. That was why she did it and why she was seeking your approval.

It was spiteful and most definitely an attempt to jeopardise people's careers. That was what sandybeaches did and it is was Ginny Talbot and you were also trying to do. It's only the way of going about it that was different.



Hang on, if anyone should behave in a manner that would be of interest to the police, ie unlawful, then it's that person who has jeopardised their own career, depending on the policies held by their employer.
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Re: SHELL.SHE REALLY STILL IS THE BIGGEST CUNT ON FORUMS Part11

Postby Snuffleupagus » Sun Aug 21, 2011 6:03 pm

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Whatever their skewed "justification" for doing so was, the actual objective was just to try to cause embarrassment, and if Ginny's posts to Bigfeet on Chattabox are anything to go by, to try to cause trouble for them with their employers by suggesting that there was misconduct. It's difficult to be specific as individual employers have their own rules about what is deemed to be misconduct in their own workplace - particularly with regard to IT procedures and its misuse in work time or on workplace PCs. She made a lot of the fact that some people had "high-profile jobs" so it would seem that Ginny felt that this made them fair game to be reported.


I am completely against ANYONE reporting people to their employers because of posts on a forum. If Ginny did this she is a cunt. If she threatened it, she is also a cunt. I also believe that anyone who posts with people who have did that have very skewed morals, but it's their lookout.

Snuffs, I am asking you directly. Was Ginny going to write to posters employers?



Far as I'm aware, Ginny was pondering on going to the authorities, ie the police, not anyone's employer.
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Re: SHELL.SHE REALLY STILL IS THE BIGGEST CUNT ON FORUMS Part11

Postby Guest » Sun Aug 21, 2011 6:05 pm

Claire wrote:
Whatever their skewed "justification" for doing so was, the actual objective was just to try to cause embarrassment, and if Ginny's posts to Bigfeet on Chattabox are anything to go by, to try to cause trouble for them with their employers by suggesting that there was misconduct. It's difficult to be specific as individual employers have their own rules about what is deemed to be misconduct in their own workplace - particularly with regard to IT procedures and its misuse in work time or on workplace PCs. She made a lot of the fact that some people had "high-profile jobs" so it would seem that Ginny felt that this made them fair game to be reported.


I am completely against ANYONE reporting people to their employers because of posts on a forum. If Ginny did this she is a cunt. If she threatened it, she is also a cunt. I also believe that anyone who posts with people who have did that have very skewed morals, but it's their lookout.

Snuffs, I am asking you directly. Was Ginny going to write to posters employers?



Hang on - in most cases, she'd have had to have know specifically who their employers were. I don't know if she did know who employed each person she planned to "report". She used the term "authorities" which is a little vague but going to the police was mentioned because in one case the person she reported was an employee of the CPS. Maybe she felt that this was likely to create the maximum level of embarrassment and workplace difficulty for that person.

Either way, it's fucking outrageous behaviour just because you don't like what someone posts on an internet forum. If you don't like what someone posts, then get the hell out of it. Posting on a forum is a matter of personal choice - not a job and if you don't like it, you always have the choice to leave. You don't try to stir up real life crap by reporting someone you don't like to their employer OR the police. NOR do you egg someone else on who suggests it.

Pretty fucking simple really.
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Re: SHELL.SHE REALLY STILL IS THE BIGGEST CUNT ON FORUMS Part11

Postby Claire » Sun Aug 21, 2011 6:07 pm

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Whatever their skewed "justification" for doing so was, the actual objective was just to try to cause embarrassment, and if Ginny's posts to Bigfeet on Chattabox are anything to go by, to try to cause trouble for them with their employers by suggesting that there was misconduct. It's difficult to be specific as individual employers have their own rules about what is deemed to be misconduct in their own workplace - particularly with regard to IT procedures and its misuse in work time or on workplace PCs. She made a lot of the fact that some people had "high-profile jobs" so it would seem that Ginny felt that this made them fair game to be reported.


I am completely against ANYONE reporting people to their employers because of posts on a forum. If Ginny did this she is a cunt. If she threatened it, she is also a cunt. I also believe that anyone who posts with people who have did that have very skewed morals, but it's their lookout.

Snuffs, I am asking you directly. Was Ginny going to write to posters employers?



Far as I'm aware, Ginny was pondering on going to the authorities, ie the police, not anyone's employer.


That's what I thought. :thumbsup:
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Re: SHELL.SHE REALLY STILL IS THE BIGGEST CUNT ON FORUMS Part11

Postby Snuffleupagus » Sun Aug 21, 2011 6:08 pm

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Threatening to report someone to the police in order to try to ensure that their job is compromised is very much taking things to real life and as you know from those cached pages that were posted here before, Ginny Talbot was keen to draw attention to the fact that her going to the police could have serious implications for some people's jobs. That was why she did it and why she was seeking your approval.

It was spiteful and most definitely an attempt to jeopardise people's careers. That was what sandybeaches did and it is what Ginny Talbot and you were also trying to do. It's only the way of going about it that was different.

Had these people broken the law? I don't uderstand why Ginny was going to the Police and I can't remember if it was mentioned in the cached pages.


Spite.

No laws broken - just spite.



There'd be no point going to the police unless any laws had been broken though.
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Re: SHELL.SHE REALLY STILL IS THE BIGGEST CUNT ON FORUMS Part11

Postby Snuffleupagus » Sun Aug 21, 2011 6:29 pm

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There was loads more than what was posted on here. If you weren't paying attention to the whole FB thing at the time, then you wouldn't be aware. There was definitely a campaign to get someone sacked for posting on DTV.


Well that was wrong and if Snuffs was involved I wouldn't post on a forum she was on. The same way I won't post on FH because of someone on there who did that very thing.


Yes, it was wrong, very wrong. Snuffs is never going to admit to it, especially when you've stated so clearly you wouldn't post alongside her if she was involved.

I know what Sandybeaches did to you, and that too was wrong. No flame war on a forum should ever cross that line into real life.

Agreed :thumbsup: Goldy did the same thing and no flame war was involved. Some people are just mental.


Yes, some people are. I'm not going to get into the argument over whether Snuffs was involved or not, but she knows the truth, and that she is one of the "just mental" people.



I thought you said you weren't going to get into the argument. :pmsl:
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Re: SHELL.SHE REALLY STILL IS THE BIGGEST CUNT ON FORUMS Part11

Postby Claire » Sun Aug 21, 2011 6:43 pm

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Whatever their skewed "justification" for doing so was, the actual objective was just to try to cause embarrassment, and if Ginny's posts to Bigfeet on Chattabox are anything to go by, to try to cause trouble for them with their employers by suggesting that there was misconduct. It's difficult to be specific as individual employers have their own rules about what is deemed to be misconduct in their own workplace - particularly with regard to IT procedures and its misuse in work time or on workplace PCs. She made a lot of the fact that some people had "high-profile jobs" so it would seem that Ginny felt that this made them fair game to be reported.


I am completely against ANYONE reporting people to their employers because of posts on a forum. If Ginny did this she is a cunt. If she threatened it, she is also a cunt. I also believe that anyone who posts with people who have did that have very skewed morals, but it's their lookout.

Snuffs, I am asking you directly. Was Ginny going to write to posters employers?



Hang on - in most cases, she'd have had to have know specifically who their employers were. I don't know if she did know who employed each person she planned to "report". She used the term "authorities" which is a little vague but going to the police was mentioned because in one case the person she reported was an employee of the CPS. Maybe she felt that this was likely to create the maximum level of embarrassment and workplace difficulty for that person.

Either way, it's fucking outrageous behaviour just because you don't like what someone posts on an internet forum. If you don't like what someone posts, then get the hell out of it. Posting on a forum is a matter of personal choice - not a job and if you don't like it, you always have the choice to leave. You don't try to stir up real life crap by reporting someone you don't like to their employer OR the police. NOR do you egg someone else on who suggests it.

Pretty fucking simple really.

Ok. I agree in the most part. I reported Sandybeaches to the police though and they took it seriously. I handed over her IP. Unfortunately SB was an ultimate coward who hid her RL identity to even my employers. Jinty McGinty didn't, so she got a visit from the plod. I have someone who was involved's details and when I can be bothered, they will be getting handed over. I had a reason to do what I did re the police. People who write e-mails to posters employers are scum. Lower than aomebas. Also pretty fooking mental. Why would anyone sane do such a thing because of posts on a forum?
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