Rolluplostinspace wrote:There's no gas in this area lots of areas in Wales like that.
LordRaven wrote:Rolluplostinspace wrote:There's no gas in this area lots of areas in Wales like that.
What a pain if the electric gets cut off and you run out of gas - but hold on, you can still use your log burning fires
Which makes this legislation utterly fucking ridiculous if Britain has a Big Freeze.
Rolluplostinspace wrote:LordRaven wrote:Rolluplostinspace wrote:There's no gas in this area lots of areas in Wales like that.
What a pain if the electric gets cut off and you run out of gas - but hold on, you can still use your log burning fires
Which makes this legislation utterly fucking ridiculous if Britain has a Big Freeze.
Well there are often power cuts out here whether you live in the middle of nowhere or in the heart of a village. Council house or mansion are all affected by these power cuts usually brought on by gale force winds and or ice bringing lines down.
Oil central heating and the power goes off .... your pump stops working.
Gas central heating power goes off .... your pump stops working.
Electric heating power goes off .... you got no heating.
Me and many many people around here like me .... will carry on cooking and be very warm and comfortable thank you.
My coal fire isn't the kind you sit around warming your hands.
My coal fire belts out so much heat I have windows and doors open.
I have a gentle fan that takes the heat further into the house.
If it gets to ten or more below the cooker will be heated up and then left on a low light to add to the warmth in the house.
With plenty of ventilation.
Three 47 kg propane bottles last me a year sometimes only two.
Fifty quid a bottle.
Rolluplostinspace wrote:LordRaven wrote:Rolluplostinspace wrote:There's no gas in this area lots of areas in Wales like that.
What a pain if the electric gets cut off and you run out of gas - but hold on, you can still use your log burning fires
Which makes this legislation utterly fucking ridiculous if Britain has a Big Freeze.
Well there are often power cuts out here whether you live in the middle of nowhere or in the heart of a village. Council house or mansion are all affected by these power cuts usually brought on by gale force winds and or ice bringing lines down.
Oil central heating and the power goes off .... your pump stops working.
Gas central heating power goes off .... your pump stops working.
Electric heating power goes off .... you got no heating.
Me and many many people around here like me .... will carry on cooking and be very warm and comfortable thank you.
My coal fire isn't the kind you sit around warming your hands.
My coal fire belts out so much heat I have windows and doors open.
I have a gentle fan that takes the heat further into the house.
If it gets to ten or more below the cooker will be heated up and then left on a low light to add to the warmth in the house.
With plenty of ventilation.
Three 47 kg propane bottles last me a year sometimes only two.
Fifty quid a bottle.
banana chewits wrote:Rolluplostinspace wrote:LordRaven wrote:Rolluplostinspace wrote:There's no gas in this area lots of areas in Wales like that.
What a pain if the electric gets cut off and you run out of gas - but hold on, you can still use your log burning fires
Which makes this legislation utterly fucking ridiculous if Britain has a Big Freeze.
Well there are often power cuts out here whether you live in the middle of nowhere or in the heart of a village. Council house or mansion are all affected by these power cuts usually brought on by gale force winds and or ice bringing lines down.
Oil central heating and the power goes off .... your pump stops working.
Gas central heating power goes off .... your pump stops working.
Electric heating power goes off .... you got no heating.
Me and many many people around here like me .... will carry on cooking and be very warm and comfortable thank you.
My coal fire isn't the kind you sit around warming your hands.
My coal fire belts out so much heat I have windows and doors open.
I have a gentle fan that takes the heat further into the house.
If it gets to ten or more below the cooker will be heated up and then left on a low light to add to the warmth in the house.
With plenty of ventilation.
Three 47 kg propane bottles last me a year sometimes only two.
Fifty quid a bottle.
do you do all your cooking with them too? that's a great deal you've got there.
Rolluplostinspace wrote:LordRaven wrote:Rolluplostinspace wrote:Fletch wrote:Cannydc wrote:Hopefully patio heaters and fire pits will be things of the past.
And the Nov 5th bonfires will become even more organised rather than homegrown, a trend seen very much here already.
Bit draconian. People not permitted to enjoy themselves outside now?
The really crazy bit is the powers that be want to shut down my coal and log burning and use gas or electricity produced on gas turbines.
Yet don't dare use gas on the patio .... world is truly fucking mad.
I guess they'd like to ban wildfires as well
I have two large gas bottles outside that are piped into my kitchen for the cooker.
Very bad shit for the environment but because the flames are not on the patio it's ok by the reckoning of some posters on here.
Rolluplostinspace wrote:The argument being put forward for tighter controls of coal and wood burning isn't about climate change but pollution that causes asthma etc.
I have mild COPD and when I told my doctor I was reinstating the chimney for an open fire he said I should see an improvement in the condition orr seeing as it's only mild anyway not notice it so much in winter.
In the late 70's Greater Manchester council were reinstating open fires in houses where there were asthma sufferers.
Opinion on that has gone full circle to it being nothing but bad idea.
My doc is having none of it.
An open fire or log burner only works efficiently if you have good draught.
This means as soon as you open up the chimney fresh air is circulating.
Soon as you light a fire fresh air is circulating at a rapid rate.
The rate of change of a room full of air is seconds .... you cannot obtain that in a sealed up centrally heated house.
Last year, related hospital admissions for five to 19-year-olds rose from 37 in August to 115 the month after in Wales.
Charity Asthma UK blamed changing weather, but also children coming into contact with cold and flu viruses, and mould in schools.
This is when there are no such fires burning. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-45401984
LordRaven wrote:Rolluplostinspace wrote:The argument being put forward for tighter controls of coal and wood burning isn't about climate change but pollution that causes asthma etc.
I have mild COPD and when I told my doctor I was reinstating the chimney for an open fire he said I should see an improvement in the condition orr seeing as it's only mild anyway not notice it so much in winter.
In the late 70's Greater Manchester council were reinstating open fires in houses where there were asthma sufferers.
Opinion on that has gone full circle to it being nothing but bad idea.
My doc is having none of it.
An open fire or log burner only works efficiently if you have good draught.
This means as soon as you open up the chimney fresh air is circulating.
Soon as you light a fire fresh air is circulating at a rapid rate.
The rate of change of a room full of air is seconds .... you cannot obtain that in a sealed up centrally heated house.
Last year, related hospital admissions for five to 19-year-olds rose from 37 in August to 115 the month after in Wales.
Charity Asthma UK blamed changing weather, but also children coming into contact with cold and flu viruses, and mould in schools.
This is when there are no such fires burning. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-45401984
Central Heating, air conditioning and lack of proper ventilation has a lot to answer for. Legionnaires disease for one but I am beginning to buy into the asthma and copd link too
Rolluplostinspace wrote:There's no gas in this area lots of areas in Wales like that.
jra wrote:Rolluplostinspace wrote:There's no gas in this area lots of areas in Wales like that.
Not just Wales.
http://www.nongasmap.org.uk
calitom wrote:my grandpa delivered coal for a living for many years....the northeast/midwest usa is bitterly cold.
re wood burning in california we have spare the air days. when these days are declared then no wood burning of any kind. controlled burns on rural properties plays by different rules.
seems like jack has a good system at his house.--in ca i dont even turn on heat or AC for approx 6 months. feb to may and sep thru nov you either leave the windows open at night and block out the sun during the day(hot days)or you leave windows open during day and close stuff up at night(milder days)
LordRaven wrote:calitom wrote:my grandpa delivered coal for a living for many years....the northeast/midwest usa is bitterly cold.
re wood burning in california we have spare the air days. when these days are declared then no wood burning of any kind. controlled burns on rural properties plays by different rules.
seems like jack has a good system at his house.--in ca i dont even turn on heat or AC for approx 6 months. feb to may and sep thru nov you either leave the windows open at night and block out the sun during the day(hot days)or you leave windows open during day and close stuff up at night(milder days)
You are blessed with a lovely climate.
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