What Would Drug Legalisation Look Like?

[Northern]

After browsing this article

http://www.indypendent.org/2011/08/04/what-would-legalization-look-like/

I have to say that I disagree with some of it. I for one do not think that heroin use would lessen as I think users would still go use the "illegal" market

Do I think it would help prevent drug wars? I doubt it as I think the competition to make as much as couldbe made would actually heighten

[Stooo]

It would lessen drug use and put an end to drug related deaths. There was a long term project in Wales a few years ago that enabled addicts to obtain their fix directly from their local clinic. After a few years it was found that overdose deaths had ceased, transmission of HIV had stopped and the amount of new addicts had also stopped due to the fact that dealers had deserted the area because there was no market for their contaminated gear. The American Government put pressure on the UK to stop the experiment and it was abandoned.

[Northern]

See that is what I do not understand, chemists cannot give out an unlimited supply (much like methadone) so surely once the fix was gotten and used from the chemists, once the clucking or craving started up again they would still go buy from the streets



(I had to really concentrate to write that )

[Stooo]

See that is what I do not understand, chemists cannot give out an unlimited supply (much like methadone) so surely once the fix was gotten and used from the chemists, once the clucking or craving started up again they would still go buy from the streets



(I had to really concentrate to write that )

They would get their supplies from dedicated clinics , not chemists. The dealers would disappear due to immense legal competition and obviously, crime rates would also drop significantly.

[Northern]

Damn it, I really concentrated and still saw clinic as chemist



I still don't see the need or demand for street drugs disappearing

[trini]

I used to go drinking with a DEA (Drug Enforcement Administration) guy, his one comment was "Legalizing drugs would cut crime 80% if not more, and would shut them down to 500 agents".

[trini]

A little read;



Crime Rises When Medical Marijuana Dispensaries Close

Wednesday
September 21, 2011

When medical marijuana dispensaries close, crime rises in the surrounding neighborhood when compared to areas where dispensaries are allowed to remain open, according to a new RAND Corporation study. The findings challenge the common wisdom that marijuana dispensaries promote criminal activity.

Studying crime both before and after a large number of dispensaries were shut down in Los Angeles, researchers found that incidents such as break-ins rose in the neighborhoods of closed dispensaries relative to dispensaries allowed to remain open, at least in the short term.

In the blocks with the closed dispensaries, the study observed crime up to 60 percent greater than comparable blocks with open dispensaries, but the effects were not apparent across a wider area.

"If medical marijuana dispensaries are causing crime, then there should be a drop in crime when they close," said Mireille Jacobson, the study's lead author and a senior economist at RAND, a nonprofit research organization. "Individual dispensaries may attract crime or create a neighborhood nuisance, but we found no evidence that medical marijuana dispensaries in general cause crime to rise."

http://www.rand.org/news/press/2011/09/21.html

[Chaucer]

You only have to look back at prohibition era USA to see that criminals happily meet the demand of anything which cannot be sourced via other means. If pencils were banned then a pencil black Market would develop. Humans want stuff!

[Guest]

Would it look like this?

[Les]

We thought alike. I thought it would look more like this:

[trini]

You only have to look back at prohibition era USA to see that criminals happily meet the demand of anything which cannot be sourced via other means. If pencils were banned then a pencil black Market would develop. Humans want stuff!

Not sure about a Pencil.



Damn that's nasty looking

A Pistol an an AK or an AR is about what we have here.

[Cactus Jack]

American essayist Gore Vidal once proposed that the all drugs should be made available and sold at cost price to addicts.

Realising that the illegal drugs trade causes the majority of crime, is by far the largest contributor to terrorists' funds and costs enforcement agencies millions whilst having no descerable effect on drug use he concluded that any other policy was both counter-productive and a waste of money.

[Big Fat Frosty]

the illegal drugs trade is worth more than smithline/bechum/nestle/allied put together
most of the richest people on earth are drug barons

[Lady Murasaki]

What about the cost to families/ human lives if it was easier to get hold of?
Alcohol is legal and that costs society dearly.

[Big Fat Frosty]

think how bad it would be if acohol was 10 times the price
half the quality
and sold by gangsters....
thats the equation

and alcohol is a worse substance than heroin
on the gov site it scores the same for physical harm
but higher for social harm...

this bullshit that everyones gonna go out and use is a pile of shyte
i cant think of anyone in my family who would
go... ok thats legal ill have a go
ffs
and those that would
already do......
regardless of the laws