TIME'S UP FOR THE DALE FARM MOB

[Cannydc]

A judge ruled the travellers should be removed from the site, near Basildon, Essex, to avoid the justice and planning systems being “brought into serious disrepute”.

Moves to evict residents are now expected to begin within days despite campaigners vowing last night to continue their legal fight. Families on the site also threatened violence in response to any moves to remove them.

The ruling was a victory for Basildon Council chiefs who have fought a decade-long campaign to remove 86 families from the green belt land.

The long-running dispute between travellers and the council is estimated to have already cost taxpayers more than £22 million. The 400 travellers, who live on 51 plots, had tried to block their removal, in three legal challenges for judicial review.


Too late, judge. It has been 'brought into serious disrepute' for quite some time.

I have yet to hear a reasonable explaination as to why these people weren't moved on within an hour of actually arriving at Dale Farm.

Just think - a local council that acts on the law of the land swiftly and decisively, and saves the hard-pressed local taxpayers £22m into the bargain.

Wouldn't that be nice ?

[Blunder]

These people were not moved on quickly as they realise the old adage of 'Safety in numbers'. They have used the same tactic for years,, arrive mob handed and threaten anyone who complains.

They pick their targets carefully,, a 'sleepy' village is right up their street, as the residents tend to be quite, law abiding folk, and most importantly,,, easy to bully.

[minjeeta]

The irony is that if the travellers had won they and their rent - a - mob supporters would have been praising the British justice system, yet when the law goes against them they vow to use any means to carry on breaking the law including violence. They bwere praising the law a couple of weeks ago when it gave them a stay so why not abide by the same law now? Mob rule mentality, they will simply take what they want and cry foul when the law is applied.

[Fenella]

How many rulings are they going to have until they actually stick to one?

[minjeeta]

A judge ruled the travellers should be removed from the site, near Basildon, Essex, to avoid the justice and planning systems being “brought into serious disrepute”.

Moves to evict residents are now expected to begin within days despite campaigners vowing last night to continue their legal fight. Families on the site also threatened violence in response to any moves to remove them.

The ruling was a victory for Basildon Council chiefs who have fought a decade-long campaign to remove 86 families from the green belt land.

The long-running dispute between travellers and the council is estimated to have already cost taxpayers more than £22 million. The 400 travellers, who live on 51 plots, had tried to block their removal, in three legal challenges for judicial review.


Too late, judge. It has been 'brought into serious disrepute' for quite some time.

I have yet to hear a reasonable explaination as to why these people weren't moved on within an hour of actually arriving at Dale Farm.

Just think - a local council that acts on the law of the land swiftly and decisively, and saves the hard-pressed local taxpayers £22m into the bargain.

Wouldn't that be nice ?

Exactly, I fail to see why councils and police do not act swiftly to move them off illegal sites within days, after all the laws are there for all to see and apply. Why should they have to go to court to enforce a law that is already enshrined, it's like catching a thief and taking him to court to apply to take him to court as it were. I'm sure that if you set up a market stall or suchlike in your high street you would be moved on within hours or less because you have no permission.

[minjeeta]

How many rulings are they going to have until they actually stick to one?

Another farce, why are there so many tiers of appeal, each costing hundreds of thousands of pounds? There should be one court of appeal where the verdict is binding. Really, each time an appeal goes to another court you are asking one set of judges to rule that the previous set of judges don't know the law. If that's the case why do we have a set of judges that don't know their job, get rid and keep the ones that do.

[Fenella]

How many rulings are they going to have until they actually stick to one?

Another farce, why are there so many tiers of appeal, each costing hundreds of thousands of pounds? There should be one court of appeal where the verdict is binding. Really, each time an appeal goes to another court you are asking one set of judges to rule that the previous set of judges don't know the law. If that's the case why do we have a set of judges that don't know their job, get rid and keep the ones that do.

Yes. The bailiffs even turned up and did nothing because some judge somewhere suddenly stopped it.

[Cactus Jack]

Planning rules and regulations in this country are a farce running at over a thousand pages and having, in some cases, a right to retroactively obtain planning permission. It desperately needs simplification.

[minjeeta]

Planning rules and regulations in this country are a farce running at over a thousand pages and having, in some cases, a right to retroactively obtain planning permission. It desperately needs simplification.

Retroactive permission should be abolished, it is a charter for chancers to then plead victimisation, or get rent a mobs involved.

[Mark]

the reason that they weren't moved on immediately

is cos when they turned up

one of them was also posting a planning application thru the front door of the town hall

once done, they can stay until that application was agreed or thrown out.

its a great example of the stupidity of our law. tho if you were one of the many legal eagles round all this, then you would state that our law is wonderful

ker-ching.


lol

have they released their slaves yet

[Cactus Jack]

Planning rules and regulations in this country are a farce running at over a thousand pages and having, in some cases, a right to retroactively obtain planning permission. It desperately needs simplification.

Retroactive permission should be abolished, it is a charter for chancers to then plead victimisation, or get rent a mobs involved.

I could agree with you but then we'd both be wrong.

Retroactive permission is sometimes necessary, especially for temporary agricultural structures or for reasons of safety - what should happen is that rules should be made very much clearer and local authorities should be compelled to comply with the law requiring adequate traveller sites.

[Fenella]

the reason that they weren't moved on immediately

is cos when they turned up

one of them was also posting a planning application thru the front door of the town hall

once done, they can stay until that application was agreed or thrown out.

its a great example of the stupidity of our law. tho if you were one of the many legal eagles round all this, then you would state that our law is wonderful

ker-ching.


lol

have they released their slaves yet

But when was that application thrown out? This has been going on for ten years hasn't it?

[Mark]

not sure fen

but they appealed

then appealed again

then appealed again

all on legal aid at the start, till someone bothered to check, and found that the head man, was worth £24 million, that we know about, with the rest all very wealthy as well.

its an expensive game designed by our legal eagles

to ensure maximum profits for them and their chums. just one of the many mechanisms that are in place here, to transfer our money, into their own pockets.

lol

i hope they will be showing the eviction live, esp if the dirty looking mare is gonna cement herslef in again

better than watching England play football or rugby

[Guest]

the reason that they weren't moved on immediately

is cos when they turned up

one of them was also posting a planning application thru the front door of the town hall

once done, they can stay until that application was agreed or thrown out.

its a great example of the stupidity of our law. tho if you were one of the many legal eagles round all this, then you would state that our law is wonderful

ker-ching.


lol

have they released their slaves yet

But when was that application thrown out? This has been going on for ten years hasn't it?

It was received by the council last week.

Is the Conservative council so inept? Looks like it. Still their chief Exec is on nearly 270K a year basic

[Fenella]

Planning rules and regulations in this country are a farce running at over a thousand pages and having, in some cases, a right to retroactively obtain planning permission. It desperately needs simplification.

Retroactive permission should be abolished, it is a charter for chancers to then plead victimisation, or get rent a mobs involved.

Yes, I agree with that. The process should be speeded up so that people have permission before they start to build.