Kenneth Clarke admits - Foreign criminals are a BIG problem

[Ali]

The chinese don't have such problems with what?

Having to explain whether they are Chinese or not.

Only recently a dig confirmed that this island was has been inhabited longer than first thought.

The indigenous people of this Island were white and what's more I am not afraid to say it.

How do you know they were white?

[Verum]

Their bones were white, Ali. That's all the evidence a racist needs.

[LordRaven]

Their bones were white, Ali. That's all the evidence a racist needs.

Actually bones are pink,being that they are living with blood coursing through them,and it is only when they belong to the long dead buried and all blood has disappeared from within that they are white.
Let's be factual and not sensationalist Verum?

[Ali]

Their bones were white, Ali. That's all the evidence a racist needs.

Actually bones are pink,being that they are living with blood coursing through them,and it is only when they belong to the long dead buried and all blood has disappeared from within that they are white.
Let's be factual and not sensationalist Verum?

So then Lordyboy, given that these bones would have belonged to long dead and buried people they would actually have been white?

Is that the evidence presented to make the assumption that anyone living here thousands of years ago must have been white? Would black peoples bones not be white too once they are long dead and buried?

[Verum]

Their bones were white, Ali. That's all the evidence a racist needs.

Actually bones are pink,being that they are living with blood coursing through them,and it is only when they belong to the long dead buried and all blood has disappeared from within that they are white.
Let's be factual and not sensationalist Verum?

I know, but these bones were dead, weren't they, cleverdick? Keep up and stop watching Alice Roberts arse.

[Trapper John]

If all mankind originated in Africa, then it is a very good chance their skin was Black, It is also a very big IF.

The natural state of skin is pale, it is only the development of pigmentation to darken the skin for protection from strong sunlight, which creates a Black person.

However, recent discoveries in anthropology are beginning to cast doubt on the 'cradle of Africa' theory, with possibilties that pockets of modern humans arose at a similar time, all across the globe.

It makes no difference about the colour of skin, it's what comes after. It is culture, way of life, inherent thinking which differentiates the races today.

[Ali]

Who said the natural state of the skin is pale?

Could it not equally be that when people moved out of areas where there is strong sunlight that being as there was no need for as much melanin in the skin that it began to reduce generation by generation.

After all TJ pretty much everyone of us with white skin will turn brown when exposed to strong sunlight. It's called getting a tan, hence the melanin is there, just not in the same amounts a people who live in places like Africa.

[Verum]

If all mankind originated in Africa, then it is a very good chance their skin was Black, It is also a very big IF.

The natural state of skin is pale, it is only the development of pigmentation to darken the skin for protection from strong sunlight, which creates a Black person.

However, recent discoveries in anthropology are beginning to cast doubt on the 'cradle of Africa' theory, with possibilties that pockets of modern humans arose at a similar time, all across the globe.

It makes no difference about the colour of skin, it's what comes after. It is culture, way of life, inherent thinking which differentiates the races today.

"Cast doubt" is a bit strong, the vast majority of scholars still prefer the "out of Africa" theory. But you are right to point out that culture rather than race per se is likely the primary source of tension. I don't like the culture of the white British far-right but we are of the same race.

[Trapper John]

Who said the natural state of the skin is pale?

Could it not equally be that when people moved out of areas where there is strong sunlight that being as there was no need for as much melanin in the skin that it began to reduce generation by generation.

After all TJ pretty much everyone of us with white skin will turn brown when exposed to strong sunlight. It's called getting a tan, hence the melanin is there, just not in the same amounts a people who live in places like Africa.

Look at the palms of hands and the soles of feet of a Black person, they are as near as damn it the same colour as a white person. The melanin on the exposed skin reacts to strong sunlight, turning it dark, as you say, like when we go to hot countries we tan.

If it were the reverse, all Black people who moved to colder climates would turn white.

[Verum]

That doesn't mean they originated in cold climates.

[Ali]

Who said the natural state of the skin is pale?

Could it not equally be that when people moved out of areas where there is strong sunlight that being as there was no need for as much melanin in the skin that it began to reduce generation by generation.

After all TJ pretty much everyone of us with white skin will turn brown when exposed to strong sunlight. It's called getting a tan, hence the melanin is there, just not in the same amounts a people who live in places like Africa.

Look at the palms of hands and the soles of feet of a Black person, they are as near as damn it the same colour as a white person. The melanin on the exposed skin reacts to strong sunlight, turning it dark, as you say, like when we go to hot countries we tan.

If it were the reverse, all Black people who moved to colder climates would turn white.

They are not that pale TJ. The palms of their hands and soles of their feet have much more melanin in them than the palms of our hands and soles of our feet do.

If skin was naturally pale as you claim, then why have melanin at all?

[Trapper John]

If all mankind originated in Africa, then it is a very good chance their skin was Black, It is also a very big IF.

The natural state of skin is pale, it is only the development of pigmentation to darken the skin for protection from strong sunlight, which creates a Black person.

However, recent discoveries in anthropology are beginning to cast doubt on the 'cradle of Africa' theory, with possibilties that pockets of modern humans arose at a similar time, all across the globe.

It makes no difference about the colour of skin, it's what comes after. It is culture, way of life, inherent thinking which differentiates the races today.

"Cast doubt" is a bit strong, the vast majority of scholars still prefer the "out of Africa" theory. But you are right to point out that culture rather than race per se is likely the primary source of tension. I don't like the culture of the white British far-right but we are of the same race.

You are very quick to call anyone who mentions race as racist, it will be the downfall of people like you, don't you realise, the country is waking up to this fact.

At the end of the day, we are all just animals, from the lowly bee and wasp to the greatest scientist. It is how we choose to live our lives, where we live our lives, what we regard as important for a long and happy life, which matters. When others make those choices for us, is where the trouble starts.

If you were a bee keeper for instance, with a hive of 20,000 bees, would you then introduce 2,000 wasps to the hive because you think they might bring something to the colony, maybe make it more industrious?

They are of the same order and look pretty much the same, but experience should tell you that the wasps would kill all the bees and destroy the hive, its what happens in nature and it is the same with humans. We have countless examples in history and nature of what happens when you forcibly thrust a non compatible species on another in large numbers, one or the other will suffer.

What is it about that which people like you just cannot understand?

[Big Fat Frosty]

They are of the same order and look pretty much the same,

hahahahahahahaaha
u try really hard ill give u that

[Trapper John]

Who said the natural state of the skin is pale?

Could it not equally be that when people moved out of areas where there is strong sunlight that being as there was no need for as much melanin in the skin that it began to reduce generation by generation.

After all TJ pretty much everyone of us with white skin will turn brown when exposed to strong sunlight. It's called getting a tan, hence the melanin is there, just not in the same amounts a people who live in places like Africa.

Look at the palms of hands and the soles of feet of a Black person, they are as near as damn it the same colour as a white person. The melanin on the exposed skin reacts to strong sunlight, turning it dark, as you say, like when we go to hot countries we tan.

If it were the reverse, all Black people who moved to colder climates would turn white.

They are not that pale TJ. The palms of their hands and soles of their feet have much more melanin in them than the palms of our hands and soles of our feet do.

If skin was naturally pale as you claim, then why have melanin at all?

Its called evolution Ali, and adaptation to ones environment.

[Ali]

Err, wasps and bees are not the same things even if they look similar. They might both be insects and aparently they have a common ancestor, but a bee is a bee and a wasp is a wasp, just as a human is a human and an ape is an ape, both mammals with a common ancestor but they are different species.

All humans are the same species irrespective of the colour of their skin.