A proper German queen... Reckon you fellas were lucky eh?

A proper German queen... Reckon you fellas were lucky eh?

Postby 3rdLeg » Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:02 pm

A 52 year-old German homeopath would now be Queen if the new royal succession rules had been adopted in Queen Victoria’s time. Senior correspondent Barry Everingham comments.
If the new rules for the line of succession had been adopted by Queen Victoria, instead of her 4th generation granddaughter, we would now have real German queen.

And instead of Prince Charles waiting to take over from his mother, the daughter of a German homeopath Friederike Thyra Marion Wilhelmine Dorethea von Osten would be in his place.

It shows just how bizarre, how ridiculous, how totally unbelievable it is that in contemporary Australia we cling to a method so mad, so out of touch, and so insulting, that a modern country has to rely on the birth right of a foreigner to determine our head of state.

Some explanation is needed here.

Queen Victoria’s first born child was a girl, Princess Victoria, who married Frederick III of Germany and Prussia and who were the parents of Kaiser William — who was the warmonger responsible for World War 1. The old Queen’s second child became King Edward VII and his son George V, who abandoned his cousin, the Tsar of Russia, his wife and their five children and so was indirectly responsible for their violent murders by Soviet revolutionaries.

Now, it’s debatable if a Princess Victoria in line to succeed her mother as queen would have been permitted to marry a German cousin, but it’s possible the world might have been a different place had she not.

The First World War was presided over by three cousins: William, George and Nicholas. William and George were Victoria’s grandsons, Nicholas was married to her granddaughter.


In Miranda Carter’s brilliant “Three Royal Cousins And the Road to World War I”, she describes the cousins as totally unsuitable to make rational decisions; they destroyed forever the illusions that the royals have close family ties — they had no sense of peace and whatever harmony may have been present was shattered by murder, betrayal and abdication.

It can’t be ignored that the grandparents of our head of state were totally unsuitable to have and rear children; this couple, George and Mary may have suited the Poms, but they had no relevance to Australia. They came here in 1901 as a duke and duchess to name Canberra and quickly got back home. George’s great uncle, Victoria’s son, the first Duke of Edinburgh, was almost assassinated while here and George and Mary’s eldest son, Edward VIII came here as the Prince of Wales and left a string of bastards in his wake.

Frau van Osten’s name appears on a long list of legitimate Protestant heirs, all of whom are eligible to take up residence, in strict succession, in Yarralumla in the event of some royal holocaust — and there’s not a single Australian among them.

Although she has never met the Queen, Frau van Osten and the monarch have a lot in common — not the least of which being one is the head of state of a country foreign to her and the other is (albeit distantly) in line to head a country of which she knows next to nothing.

If all that isn’t mad, inconsistent, unbelievable and insulting I’m yet to know what is.
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Re: A proper German queen... Reckon you fellas were lucky eh?

Postby spicy » Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:04 pm

Yes and I bet her name would have been Angela Merkal!
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Re: A proper German queen... Reckon you fellas were lucky eh?

Postby Stooo » Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:06 pm

Interesting read, thanks for that. :smilin:
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Re: A proper German queen... Reckon you fellas were lucky eh?

Postby spicy » Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:08 pm

Stooo wrote:Interesting read, thanks for that. :smilin:


Thanks Stew :pmsl: :pmsl: :pmsl:
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Re: A proper German queen... Reckon you fellas were lucky eh?

Postby 3rdLeg » Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:10 pm

Stooo wrote:Interesting read, thanks for that. :smilin:


No worries Stooo..
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Re: A proper German queen... Reckon you fellas were lucky eh?

Postby 3rdLeg » Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:11 pm

spicy wrote:
Stooo wrote:Interesting read, thanks for that. :smilin:


Thanks Stew :pmsl: :pmsl: :pmsl:


The Cheek !!!! :shell:
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Re: A proper German queen... Reckon you fellas were lucky eh?

Postby 3rdLeg » Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:17 pm

spicy wrote:Yes and I bet her name would have been Angela Merkal!


You were lucky then,... :ohshi:
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Re: A proper German queen... Reckon you fellas were lucky eh?

Postby Big Fat Frosty » Thu Nov 10, 2011 4:05 pm

isnt our real non foreign monarch
the last of the stewart line living in australia
or summat like that
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Re: A proper German queen... Reckon you fellas were lucky eh?

Postby LordRaven » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:01 pm

Frank Black wrote:isnt our real non foreign monarch
the last of the stewart line living in australia
or summat like that


Yes. The last of the Plantaganets living in Australia http://www.serendipity.li/more/monarch.htm

The answer to both questions is Yes. Again consulting http://www.channel4.com/history/microsi ... htree.html we see that after the birth of Edward there were two sons born to Cecily and Richard. The youngest, Richard, became King Richard III in 1483 but died childless in the Battle of Bosworth (1485). The second son was George, Duke of Clarence, who was executed in 1478. His daughter Margaret (lived 1473-1541) had five children and among her present-day descendants is Michael Hastings (born 1942), who emigrated to Australia in 1960, married, fathered five children, and currently lives in Jerilderie, New South Wales. Since the line of descent from Henry II to Michael Hastings is legitimate, and the line of descent from Henry II to Elizabeth II is not legitimate, it follows that Michael Hastings is Britain's legitimate king, and the present occupant of Buckingham Palace has no valid claim to be Queen of England.

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Re: A proper German queen... Reckon you fellas were lucky eh?

Postby LordRaven » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:02 pm

Frank Black wrote:isnt our real non foreign monarch
the last of the stewart line living in australia
or summat like that


Yes. The last of the Plantaganets living in Australia http://www.serendipity.li/more/monarch.htm

The answer to both questions is Yes. Again consulting http://www.channel4.com/history/microsi ... htree.html we see that after the birth of Edward there were two sons born to Cecily and Richard. The youngest, Richard, became King Richard III in 1483 but died childless in the Battle of Bosworth (1485). The second son was George, Duke of Clarence, who was executed in 1478. His daughter Margaret (lived 1473-1541) had five children and among her present-day descendants is Michael Hastings (born 1942), who emigrated to Australia in 1960, married, fathered five children, and currently lives in Jerilderie, New South Wales. Since the line of descent from Henry II to Michael Hastings is legitimate, and the line of descent from Henry II to Elizabeth II is not legitimate, it follows that Michael Hastings is Britain's legitimate king, and the present occupant of Buckingham Palace has no valid claim to be Queen of England.

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Re: A proper German queen... Reckon you fellas were lucky eh?

Postby 3rdLeg » Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:27 pm

Ah good stuff.. Yeah this fella, well if this bloke were to inherit the throne then to hell with getting rid of the monachy ;-) You mob can have a head of state and we can have a real King, actually we have one eh.. :yess: You lot have a squatter in the palace... :monkey:
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Re: A proper German queen... Reckon you fellas were lucky eh?

Postby LordRaven » Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:57 pm

3rdLeg wrote:Ah good stuff.. Yeah this fella, well if this bloke were to inherit the throne then to hell with getting rid of the monachy ;-) You mob can have a head of state and we can have a real King, actually we have one eh.. :yess: You lot have a squatter in the palace... :monkey:


Get him to launch a claim through the international court :pmsl:

One would not be amused at being called a squatter :pmsl:
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