We cannot afford to ignore 1 million youth unemployed

We cannot afford to ignore 1 million youth unemployed

Postby Cactus Jack » Thu Nov 17, 2011 2:10 pm

Even if we were to accept the economic consequences, and we shouldn't do that, we should remember that the current young generation are more savvy with social media and able to spread idea using that medium. The repressive regimes of the Middle East were no match for this phenomenon with the spread of the Arab spring and here too the young are finding avenues of expression such as the occupy protest, or less positively the London Riots

Allowing young people to bear the burden of unemployment cannot be justified in any way, especially if at the same time we are asking older people to work longer. Blaming young people for lacking the work skills necessary doesn't wash either, whether the perception of a failed education system is the result of bias, bickering or bloody-mindedness it can't provide an excuse to repeat the mistakes of the 1980s and write a generation to welfare dependency.

What is needed is a comprehensive and Europe wide investment in youth and education that guarantees a two year apprenticeship to any 19-24 year old who has been out of employment or training from more than 13 weeks.

That way the burden is shared, our young people who cannot find suitable employers in the UK can be offered places abroad - I have visions of young people interested in fashion serving apprenticeships in Italy and construction Apprentices doing necessary work that is already wholly or partially funded by the EU in Poland and Slovakia and perhaps even hospitality apprentices working in hotels and resorts in Greece so that all of Europe can share in the regeneration of these flagging economies.

There's no point in pretending the current economic woes are restricted to one country or that they can be overcome by one country. Let's get real and get to work on saving the next generation from the misery Thatcher's Lost Generation have endured.
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Re: We cannot afford to ignore 1 million youth unemployed

Postby Maddog » Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:46 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:Even if we were to accept the economic consequences, and we shouldn't do that, we should remember that the current young generation are more savvy with social media and able to spread idea using that medium. The repressive regimes of the Middle East were no match for this phenomenon with the spread of the Arab spring and here too the young are finding avenues of expression such as the occupy protest, or less positively the London Riots

Allowing young people to bear the burden of unemployment cannot be justified in any way, especially if at the same time we are asking older people to work longer. Blaming young people for lacking the work skills necessary doesn't wash either, whether the perception of a failed education system is the result of bias, bickering or bloody-mindedness it can't provide an excuse to repeat the mistakes of the 1980s and write a generation to welfare dependency.

What is needed is a comprehensive and Europe wide investment in youth and education that guarantees a two year apprenticeship to any 19-24 year old who has been out of employment or training from more than 13 weeks.

That way the burden is shared, our young people who cannot find suitable employers in the UK can be offered places abroad - I have visions of young people interested in fashion serving apprenticeships in Italy and construction Apprentices doing necessary work that is already wholly or partially funded by the EU in Poland and Slovakia and perhaps even hospitality apprentices working in hotels and resorts in Greece so that all of Europe can share in the regeneration of these flagging economies.

There's no point in pretending the current economic woes are restricted to one country or that they can be overcome by one country. Let's get real and get to work on saving the next generation from the misery Thatcher's Lost Generation have endured.


What are the 19-24 year olds doing about their situation?
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Re: We cannot afford to ignore 1 million youth unemployed

Postby Guest » Thu Nov 17, 2011 5:56 pm

Maddog wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:Even if we were to accept the economic consequences, and we shouldn't do that, we should remember that the current young generation are more savvy with social media and able to spread idea using that medium. The repressive regimes of the Middle East were no match for this phenomenon with the spread of the Arab spring and here too the young are finding avenues of expression such as the occupy protest, or less positively the London Riots

Allowing young people to bear the burden of unemployment cannot be justified in any way, especially if at the same time we are asking older people to work longer. Blaming young people for lacking the work skills necessary doesn't wash either, whether the perception of a failed education system is the result of bias, bickering or bloody-mindedness it can't provide an excuse to repeat the mistakes of the 1980s and write a generation to welfare dependency.

What is needed is a comprehensive and Europe wide investment in youth and education that guarantees a two year apprenticeship to any 19-24 year old who has been out of employment or training from more than 13 weeks.

That way the burden is shared, our young people who cannot find suitable employers in the UK can be offered places abroad - I have visions of young people interested in fashion serving apprenticeships in Italy and construction Apprentices doing necessary work that is already wholly or partially funded by the EU in Poland and Slovakia and perhaps even hospitality apprentices working in hotels and resorts in Greece so that all of Europe can share in the regeneration of these flagging economies.

There's no point in pretending the current economic woes are restricted to one country or that they can be overcome by one country. Let's get real and get to work on saving the next generation from the misery Thatcher's Lost Generation have endured.


What are the 19-24 year olds doing about their situation?


700 hundred applied for 16 full-time jobs. Many have gone to get further/better qualifications. Lots are trying very hard. Very few are doing fuck all despite the media lying.
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Re: We cannot afford to ignore 1 million youth unemployed

Postby Trapper John » Thu Nov 17, 2011 7:27 pm

Why not? the government are.
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Re: We cannot afford to ignore 1 million youth unemployed

Postby Guest » Thu Nov 17, 2011 7:38 pm

Trapezerjohn wrote:Why not? the government are.


They would be vilified by the gutter press, the same gutter press that avoids news stories about tax avoiders
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Re: We cannot afford to ignore 1 million youth unemployed

Postby LordRaven » Thu Nov 17, 2011 11:59 pm

Guest wrote:
Trapezerjohn wrote:Why not? the government are.


They would be vilified by the gutter press, the same gutter press that avoids news stories about tax avoiders


That is indeed a very very good point and one that deserves far more airtime.

Well said. :thumbsup:
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Re: We cannot afford to ignore 1 million youth unemployed

Postby art1hur1moh » Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:05 am

I consider it a disgrace that one person be unemployed! It gose back to the start of the industrial revolution, maybe we need a social revolution? Tan: revolution, out side of it being used to promote technological advancments between the 16th and 20th centuary, It seems the modern idea of revolution congures negative opinion/views in people?

Every one should be employed regardless of intelectual and physical ability! No excuses! My view is rather harsh in this area and conforms with natural laws! If you can't sustain your own life nothing short of death should be your reward!

And that is why constantly call for every one to have a primary education. A secondary education I see as providing them with physical or mental limitations a better opportunity to provide for them selves.

The simple fact so many employed recive low education and wages. Plus the consistent unemployment levels being so high tells me nothing less than govornments are incopitant and have failed in their administrative duties! Then there are profit orrientated who exploit so many with no regard to social issues that effect individuals.
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Re: We cannot afford to ignore 1 million youth unemployed

Postby Guest » Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:47 am

LordRaven wrote:
Guest wrote:
Trapezerjohn wrote:Why not? the government are.


They would be vilified by the gutter press, the same gutter press that avoids news stories about tax avoiders


That is indeed a very very good point and one that deserves far more airtime.

Well said. :thumbsup:


If the richest elites just paid their dues Raven we wouldn't have a half of the debt in 4 years and in ten no one would pay any tax who is on under £21,000 basic.

Trouble is the Tory media pay incredible little Corp Tax, their paymasters pay no tax, some directors of the *snigger* TaxPayers Alliance don't pay any tax and the TPA has NEVER issued a call for any Govt to fully collect tax, close all loopholes, tax havens etc.
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Re: We cannot afford to ignore 1 million youth unemployed

Postby Mark » Fri Nov 18, 2011 10:36 am

how many of these poor sods are also saddled with thousands of debt, due to being convinced to go to Uni to do a worthless degree?

maybe if they were told the truth

that consecutive Govts will always appease the corps, the tax dodgers, the ruling class

by allowing cheap willing labour to pour in for decades, all for profit, meaning that these kids would have very little chance of getting work
then maybe they wouldn't have been se easily conned eh.


lol

couldn't we send em all to eastern europe for a bit of work experience?
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Re: We cannot afford to ignore 1 million youth unemployed

Postby Cactus Jack » Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:50 am

Mark wrote:how many of these poor sods are also saddled with thousands of debt, due to being convinced to go to Uni to do a worthless degree?

maybe if they were told the truth

that consecutive Govts will always appease the corps, the tax dodgers, the ruling class

by allowing cheap willing labour to pour in for decades, all for profit, meaning that these kids would have very little chance of getting work
then maybe they wouldn't have been se easily conned eh.


lol

couldn't we send em all to eastern europe for a bit of work experience?
If you read the opening post that's not too far off what I was suggesting. The EU has many infrastructure projects waiting in the wings and bring some of these forward with apprenticeships open to young people from every country in the EU would help the EU and help us. A win win
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Re: We cannot afford to ignore 1 million youth unemployed

Postby Text » Mon Nov 21, 2011 5:27 pm

OP, 'course we can't afford to!! 1 million economically unproductive, restless youngsters ?? NOT good!! :shake head:
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