New Year stab fest

[TeamRighty]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... rders.html


By ALEX PEAKE, BEN CUSACK and ANTHONY FRANCE



Published: Today




THE New Year got off to a violent start yesterday with four suspected murders and an attempted killing of a cop.


They were the worst in a string of horrific incidents across Britain — just hours into 2012.


A 42-year-old man died after being stabbed in the chest at a New Year house party in LUTON, Beds.


Police believe the victim, who has not been named, died of a heart attack — less than an hour after being wounded at around 3am. Last night a boy of 15 and a 16-year-old girl were being quizzed on suspicion of murder.


Neighbours claimed the victim had been co-hosting the bash with his girlfriend Mandy O'Neill. They said they heard screaming coming from the house and then police and paramedics arrived.


The man is thought to have staggered out of the semi-detached home and collapsed in the front garden. A Bedfordshire Police spokesman said: "Unfortunately everyone at the party was fairly drunk and it has been difficult to try to piece together what led up to the assault."


Mandy is thought to live at the house with two teenage daughters.Neighbours said her boyfriend was German, called Michael and lived nearby, but often stayed with her.


A man celebrating his 22nd birthday was shot dead early yesterday in CLERKENWELL, London. He was blasted twice in the chest in front of two female pals.







Cops launched a murder probe after a man died following a fight at a party in SHEFFIELD city centre.They were called to the Stars and Mayfair Party Suites at 2.47am.


And a man and a woman, both 21, were held on suspicion of murder after a 29-year-old man died of head injuries after being attacked in a car park at CLACTON, Essex, at 4.30am.


A PC was crushed against his own patrol car by thieves in a stolen taxi in MILTON KEYNES, Bucks. The Volkswagen Passat minicab was reversed into the officer shortly after 3am. Thames Valley Police were yesterday treating the incident as attempted murder and were quizzing a 29-year-old man.


Last night the PC was in a "serious but stable" condition in hospital.


A boy of 17 was yesterday being questioned over the rape of a 20-year-old woman as she walked home from a party in SOUTHAMPTON, Hants, at around 4am. In NORFOLK a man in his 20s died after an incident outside a pub in the village of Toft Monks at 3.15am.


A man was killed and a woman injured when struck by a van while walking home from a party in HERNE BAY, Kent — an hour into 2012.


Paramedics dealt with 14 stabbings in GREATER MANCHESTER, ten in MERSEYSIDE and CHESHIRE and six in LANCASHIRE and CUMBRIA.


Two young women were killed when their car crashed into a wall near CAERNARFON, North Wales.Police were yesterday scouring the River Tyne for a man who jumped from the Tyne Bridge in full view of thousands of revellers in NEWCASTLE.


A woman aged 48 died after falling from a balcony in PORTSMOUTH, Hants, around two hours before midnight. Deborah Nash's death is not being treated as suspicious.


In a separate tragedy, a 49-year-old man on holiday with his family died yesterday after falling out of a canoe into the River Fowey at Draynes, CORNWALL.






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this is what costs the NHS not smoking and drinking.
where has all this knife stuff come from??????

[wutang]

where has all this knife stuff come from??????

People/gangs using knifes? totally modern phenomenon...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scuttlers

[TeamRighty]

where has all this knife stuff come from??????

People/gangs using knifes? totally modern phenomenon...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scuttlers

i know, but the knifings are daily now, its happening allover the place, dont you think its on the increase?

[Ali]

They weren't all down to knifing TR, but I bet some of them were down to drinking though.

[TeamRighty]

They weren't all down to knifing TR, but I bet some of them were down to drinking though.

yes i expect they were all down to drinking as it was new year

[wutang]

i know, but the knifings are daily now, its happening allover the place, dont you think its on the increase?

Got any comparable stats?


Also, a search for "knife" in the British Newspaper Articles comes up with over 38,000 pages of results... the vast majority being 1850-1950 (before the fabled 'start of mass immigration')... lots of knife crime in british history

http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.u ... lse&page=1

[TeamRighty]

i know, but the knifings are daily now, its happening allover the place, dont you think its on the increase?

Got any comparable stats?


Also, a search for "knife" in the British Newspaper Articles comes up with over 38,000 pages of results... the vast majority being 1850-1950 (before the fabled 'start of mass immigration')... lots of knife crime in british history

http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.u ... lse&page=1

we asked canny for pre 1950 stats he didnt return, and who said anything about immigrants? what have they got to do with it?

[wutang]

we asked canny for pre 1950 stats he didnt return,

Whats that got to do with me, take that up with him. Still waiting for some comparable data to see if knife crime is increasing... 10 years, 20 years, 50 years... you still need some reference points.

and who said anything about immigrants? what have they got to do with it?

Nothing... that was my point.

[TeamRighty]

we asked canny for pre 1950 stats he didnt return,

Whats that got to do with me, take that up with him. Still waiting for some comparable data to see if knife crime is increasing... 10 years, 20 years, 50 years... you still need some reference points.

and who said anything about immigrants? what have they got to do with it?

Nothing... that was my point.

it appears to be on the increase, i dont know if its because its in the press more, but we didnt hear about this much knife crime even in the 80s and 90s.

its very puzzling wutang

[Vicky]

Four people found shot dead in a house in England this morning, one man and three women, in what looks like a murder suicide police said.

[Cannydc]

Murders in the UK (2010 figures - 619)

1946 347

1947 371

1948 341

1949 298

1950 346

1951 328

1952 400

1953 327

1954 311

1955 279

1956 315

1957 321

1958 261

1959 266

1960 282

1961 265

1962 299

1963 307

1964 296

1965 325

1966 364

1967 414

1968 420

1969 395

1970 396

1971 459


Plenty of murder around, despite the death penalty - an average of one a day.

Pretty much in line with murders today, given the comparative rise in population.

There is no evidence that the proportion of murders per 100,000 people has actually risen since WW2.

Happy now, D-D ?

[TeamRighty]

Murders in the UK (2010 figures - 619)

1946 347

1947 371

1948 341

1949 298

1950 346

1951 328

1952 400

1953 327

1954 311

1955 279

1956 315

1957 321

1958 261

1959 266

1960 282

1961 265

1962 299

1963 307

1964 296

1965 325

1966 364

1967 414

1968 420

1969 395

1970 396

1971 459


Plenty of murder around, despite the death penalty - an average of one a day.

Pretty much in line with murders today, given the comparative rise in population.

There is no evidence that the proportion of murders per 100,000 people has actually risen since WW2.

Happy now, D-D ?

you dick head, now put the other stats, i remember your stats after 1970 that you posted were in the 500s and 600s, come on canny i dare ya

[Cannydc]

Get them off the other thread and post them yourself, Lazy Get !!

[TeamRighty]

Cannydc wrote:
For the last 20 - 30 years the UK has averaged around 600 - 700 murders a year.

That is 2 a day.

Because Christmas is a slow news period, murders tend to move up the schedule and be reported in more depth.

There are no more murders this Christmas than any other, is my guess.

1979 546
1980 549
1981 499
1982 557
1983 482
1984 537
1985 536
1986 563
1987 599
1988 547
1989 525
1990 555
1991 623
1992 581
1993 565
1994 632
1995 663
1996 584
1997 650
1998 629
1999 760
2000 792
2001 891
2002 876
2003 853
2004 868
2005 765
2006 759
2007 753
2008 651

Murders have steadily FALLEN since 2001....




OH DEAR CANNY, DOESNT ADD UP DOES IT? CLOSE THE DOOR ON YOUR WAY OUT

[Ali]

Now compare those on a pro-rata basis Tr and you will likely find there is little difference between the numbers of murders per 100,000 of the population now than there was then.