Europe needs now to pay for its Defence

[LordRaven]

America withdrawing Cold War Troops from Europe.

Now the EU Gravy Train needs to stop and rethink.

And not before time.

[Cannydc]

Why do you think an EU Army has been mooted ?

[LordRaven]

Why do you think an EU Army has been mooted ?

At last imo Canny. For too long now The EU/NATO has basked under the security of the US Armed Forces Umbrella and used all the money that should have been spent on defence for idiotic social experiments and the well covered total abuse by eurocrats in feathering their own nests.

I welcome this as EU will need to get proper auditing in place with proper funding allocated for defence,procurement and manuafacturing,which in itself will lead to opportunities in job creation in all those fields.

About time too.

[Guest]

Why do you think an EU Army has been mooted ?

right wing Tories and the Maily Torygraph when ballistic when that idea was proposed

just sayin

[Maddog]

Why do you think an EU Army has been mooted ?

Why would you need an EU Army?

If you had one, how much do you reckon the Italians would kick in?

The UK would be in the same boat as we are. Paying for the defense of other countries.

[Cannydc]

The Italians have a decent Air Force, for a start.

They would spend LESS on defence than now, if contributing to an EU force while reducing their forces at least in line with that contribution.

And there is little reason not to do that.

[Guest]

Why do you think an EU Army has been mooted ?

Why would you need an EU Army?

If you had one, how much do you reckon the Italians would kick in?

The UK would be in the same boat as we are. Paying for the defense of other countries.

And paying to keep ruthless dictators in power. Bahrain ring any bells?????

[LordRaven]

Why do you think an EU Army has been mooted ?

right wing Tories and the Maily Torygraph when ballistic when that idea was proposed

just sayin

In english please?

[Guest]

Why do you think an EU Army has been mooted ?

right wing Tories and the Maily Torygraph when ballistic when that idea was proposed

just sayin

In english please?

Seeing as it isn't your first language I will lay it out on a plate.

The EU proposed an EU Army. The Mail and Telegraph, which are two tax dodging right wing gutter rags who print various lies about the EU, went mental...saying the idea was stupid and unworkable.

[LordRaven]

Why do you think an EU Army has been mooted ?

Why would you need an EU Army?

If you had one, how much do you reckon the Italians would kick in?

The UK would be in the same boat as we are. Paying for the defense of other countries.

No offence but EU has No Defence

This American move is something I have been hoping for because now all the EU common policies will have to be rethought.

We still have Ivan facing us with formidable forces but i would now prefer to think they would be more inclined to ally themselves with us against the common threat.

However Defence Spending in an allocated budget by the EU would ensure jobs in Defence(Armed Forces),Procurement,Research & Development and Manuafacturing and that is why it would be a great thing for EU.

Europes Manuafacturing and Exporting quality hardware--and some amazing Civilian spin offs come from R&D--would enable us to grow stronger,for at the moment we are a bloated,overly expensive,non-working conglomerate with lack of money and unworkable social programmes.

A bit of fear would focus the mind on innovation and rearmament and we really do need that--as EU lacks focus and is floundering

[Guest]

Why do you think an EU Army has been mooted ?

Why would you need an EU Army?

If you had one, how much do you reckon the Italians would kick in?

The UK would be in the same boat as we are. Paying for the defense of other countries.

No offence but EU has No Defence

This American move is something I have been hoping for because now all the EU common policies will have to be rethought.

We still have Ivan facing us with formidable forces but i would now prefer to think they would be more inclined to ally themselves with us against the common threat.

However Defence Spending in an allocated budget by the EU would ensure jobs in Defence(Armed Forces),Procurement,Research & Development and Manuafacturing and that is why it would be a great thing for EU.

Europes Manuafacturing and Exporting quality hardware--and some amazing Civilian spin offs come from R&D--would enable us to grow stronger,for at the moment we are a bloated,overly expensive,non-working conglomerate with lack of money and unworkable social programmes.

A bit of fear would focus the mind on innovation and rearmament and we really do need that--as EU lacks focus and is floundering

Last time I looked ALL EU countries are also NATO countries.

Do we need a duplication of military warmongers?

[LordRaven]

It seems many people on here have NOT got a clue.

e.g. The British Army would not fill Wembley Stadium and only France has bigger armed forces than we do.

Truth is NATO is 90% American for the proper Dilbert who mentioned EU and Nato countries being one and the same.

Death Machines?? What a plank!

We could not defend the Isle of Wight from an Invasion without US help.

And now that is gone,who will defend Europe Dilbert??

[Maddog]

It seems many people on here have NOT got a clue.

e.g. The British Army would not fill Wembley Stadium and only France has bigger armed forces than we do.

Truth is NATO is 90% American for the proper Dilbert who mentioned EU and Nato countries being one and the same.

Death Machines?? What a plank!

We could not defend the Isle of Wight from an Invasion without US help.

And now that is gone,who will defend Europe Dilbert??

We have more deployable troops in Fort Hood Texas, then the rest of NATO combined. Lets say Poland was invaded. None of the other NATO countries would have any troops to spare to defend Poland. They would have to keep them home in case they were needed there.

[trini]

You'll end up hiring PMC's like me from the retired military.

Don't laugh; the Private Military Company I work for is from London.

Wake up, its already happening.

BTW you've noticed we're not getting rid of any of our Aircraft Carriers

[Guest]

It seems many people on here have NOT got a clue.

e.g. The British Army would not fill Wembley Stadium and only France has bigger armed forces than we do.

Truth is NATO is 90% American for the proper Dilbert who mentioned EU and Nato countries being one and the same.

Death Machines?? What a plank!

We could not defend the Isle of Wight from an Invasion without US help.

And now that is gone,who will defend Europe Dilbert??

We have more deployable troops in Fort Hood Texas, then the rest of NATO combined. Lets say Poland was invaded. None of the other NATO countries would have any troops to spare to defend Poland. They would have to keep them home in case they were needed there.

What fucking rubbish. What a plank!