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Re: Margaret Fleming.

Postby Vicky » Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:49 am

Guest wrote:They should throw away the key. These cruel bastards had her tied up for two months before killing that poor vulnerable women. Whole life tariff for these two inhumane cunts, nothing less.


Sadly a whole life tariff isn't an option in Scotland.

However he's 76 so thirty years will do and as she's 56 give her forty years.
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Re: Margaret Fleming.

Postby Vicky » Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:57 am

It seems a few years ago the Scottish Government considered bringing in American style sentences of 100 years here, because we don't have a whole life tariff.

However they later decided against it.

There's a female prisoner here called Rita Davidson, who's been locked up for 51 years.

She must be the longest serving female prisoner in the UK.
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Davidson and her boyfriend murdered a Postmistress for £5 and two packets of cigarettes.
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Re: Margaret Fleming.

Postby Guest » Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:00 am

Vicky wrote:
Guest wrote:They should throw away the key. These cruel bastards had her tied up for two months before killing that poor vulnerable women. Whole life tariff for these two inhumane cunts, nothing less.


Sadly a whole life tariff isn't an option in Scotland.

However he's 76 so thirty years will do and as she's 56 give her forty years.


So long as it's long enough that they come out in a box, that'll do.
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Postby Guest » Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:03 am

Vicky wrote:Davidson and her boyfriend murdered a Postmistress for £5 and two packets of cigarettes.


Wow that does seem a bit extreme, I'm wondering if she committed further crimes while inside and if that's what's lengthened her sentence? Or was she given 50 odd years? Also is her boyfriend still in jail?
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Vicky wrote:Davidson and her boyfriend murdered a Postmistress for £5 and two packets of cigarettes.


Wow that does seem a bit extreme, I'm wondering if she committed further crimes while inside and if that's what's lengthened her sentence? Or was she given 50 odd years? Also is her boyfriend still in jail?


At the murder trial the court heard that her co-accused Edward Gallagher was the driving force behind the crime and he had a history of violence towards women.

The court also heard that Rita had attended a special school, was suffering from mental health problems and was of low intelligence.

Despite that, her and Gallagher were both given a life sentence.

Rita Davidson's health deteriorated in prison and she was transferred to the State Hospital at Carstairs.

Edward Gallagher was paroled a long time ago, Rita has now been moved from the State Hospital, but still remains locked up.
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Vicky wrote:Davidson and her boyfriend murdered a Postmistress for £5 and two packets of cigarettes.


Wow that does seem a bit extreme, I'm wondering if she committed further crimes while inside and if that's what's lengthened her sentence? Or was she given 50 odd years? Also is her boyfriend still in jail?


At the murder trial the court heard that her co-accused Edward Gallagher was the driving force behind the crime and he had a history of violence towards women.

The court also heard that Rita had attended a special school, was suffering from mental health problems and was of low intelligence.

Despite that, her and Gallagher were both given a life sentence.

Rita Davidson's health deteriorated in prison and she was transferred to the State Hospital at Carstairs.

Edward Gallagher was paroled a long time ago, Rita has now been moved from the State Hospital, but still remains locked up.


Thank you for that information Victoria. What a total injustice and sadly no one is fighting for that woman with special needs. It sickens me that he's been free for a long time and she is left to rot because she doesn't have the intelligence to fight for her rights.
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Re: Margaret Fleming.

Postby Vicky » Thu Nov 09, 2017 9:20 am

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Vicky wrote:
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Vicky wrote:Davidson and her boyfriend murdered a Postmistress for £5 and two packets of cigarettes.


Wow that does seem a bit extreme, I'm wondering if she committed further crimes while inside and if that's what's lengthened her sentence? Or was she given 50 odd years? Also is her boyfriend still in jail?


At the murder trial the court heard that her co-accused Edward Gallagher was the driving force behind the crime and he had a history of violence towards women.

The court also heard that Rita had attended a special school, was suffering from mental health problems and was of low intelligence.

Despite that, her and Gallagher were both given a life sentence.

Rita Davidson's health deteriorated in prison and she was transferred to the State Hospital at Carstairs.

Edward Gallagher was paroled a long time ago, Rita has now been moved from the State Hospital, but still remains locked up.


Thank you for that information Victoria. What a total injustice and sadly no one is fighting for that woman with special needs. It sickens me that he's been free for a long time and she is left to rot because she doesn't have the intelligence to fight for her rights.


It's sad to think Rita Davidson is still locked up, when people who've committed crimes that are far worse have been freed.

Do you remember the case of Stefan Kiszko, who was jailed for murdering an eleven year old girl?

That was described as the worst miscarriage of justice in British Criminal History.

At least he had is mum fighting for him.

Terrible he spend sixteen years locked up and only had eighteen months of freedom after his conviction was overturned.
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Re: Margaret Fleming.

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Re: Margaret Fleming.

Postby Guest » Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:25 am

Vicky wrote:

It's sad to think Rita Davidson is still locked up, when people who've committed crimes that are far worse have been freed.

Do you remember the case of Stefan Kiszko, who was jailed for murdering an eleven year old girl?

That was described as the worst miscarriage of justice in British Criminal History.

At least he had is mum fighting for him.

Terrible he spend sixteen years locked up and only had eighteen months of freedom after his conviction was overturned.


Yes another terrible injustice against a person with special needs, how heartbreaking. The stress of all those years in prison is probably what caused his heart attack just a short time after he was freed. I just googled and see that Ronald Castree was (many years later) convicted of her brutal rape and murder, hopefully that scum will die before his due parole date at the age of 84.
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Re: Margaret Fleming.

Postby Vicky » Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:49 am

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Vicky wrote:

It's sad to think Rita Davidson is still locked up, when people who've committed crimes that are far worse have been freed.

Do you remember the case of Stefan Kiszko, who was jailed for murdering an eleven year old girl?

That was described as the worst miscarriage of justice in British Criminal History.

At least he had is mum fighting for him.

Terrible he spend sixteen years locked up and only had eighteen months of freedom after his conviction was overturned.


Yes another terrible injustice against a person with special needs, how heartbreaking. The stress of all those years in prison is probably what caused his heart attack just a short time after he was freed. I just googled and see that Ronald Castree was (many years later) convicted of her brutal rape and murder, hopefully that scum will die before his due parole date at the age of 84.


I read a book recently called the Clydach Murders and that's another case, where an innocent man has been locked up for a long time.

David Morris was convicted of killing an eighty year old woman, her 34 year old daughter and her two grandchildren.

Reading through the book it becomes pretty obvious 34 year old Mandy Power was murdered by her lesbian lover Alison Lewis, who was a former policewoman.

Lewis was aided and abetted by her husband (A police sargent) and his brother (A police Inspector)

South Wales didn't want a scandal on their hands, so they fitted up Morris.
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Re: Margaret Fleming.

Postby Vicky » Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:53 am

A woman close to the scene of the murders saw a man hurrying away and gave the police a artists impression of what he looked like.

Despite appearing on Crimewatch the photo wasn't shown and it wasn't made public for a long time.

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Sargent Stephen Lewis and the photo fit.
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Re: Margaret Fleming.

Postby Guest » Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:54 pm

Vicky wrote:A woman close to the scene of the murders saw a man hurrying away and gave the police a artists impression of what he looked like.

Despite appearing on Crimewatch the photo wasn't shown and it wasn't made public for a long time.

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Sargent Stephen Lewis and the photo fit.


Wow it's almost like someone was looking at him while sketching him! I googled (again) and see his case was turned down on appeal and his lawyers have refiled again, this should be heard by the end of August this year, though I can't find if it was successful or not. Yet another terrible injustice, South Wales police should be thoroughly ashamed and be made to reopen this case
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Re: Margaret Fleming.

Postby Vicky » Fri Nov 10, 2017 10:37 am

Guest wrote:
Vicky wrote:A woman close to the scene of the murders saw a man hurrying away and gave the police a artists impression of what he looked like.

Despite appearing on Crimewatch the photo wasn't shown and it wasn't made public for a long time.

Image

Sargent Stephen Lewis and the photo fit.


Wow it's almost like someone was looking at him while sketching him! I googled (again) and see his case was turned down on appeal and his lawyers have refiled again, this should be heard by the end of August this year, though I can't find if it was successful or not. Yet another terrible injustice, South Wales police should be thoroughly ashamed and be made to reopen this case


The only thing was a fiasco.

Listen to this.

David Morris's lawyer was also the lawyer for the Lewis brothers so it meant, the lawyer never asked any questions in court, which could have incriminated them.

Any other lawyer would have said to their client " Can you think of anyone else who might have done this?"

But the lawyer couldn't, because that would have dropped the Lewis's in it.

The lawyer was sacked a year or so later.
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