Wonderful things happening after the referendum and A50

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Re: Wonderful things happening after the referendum and A50

Postby Guest » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:12 pm

I never thought I would ever support the DUP, how times have changed,

Theresa faces a battle on both sides and could end up a " Has Been" PM. if the DUP walk out of Parliament

Even Duncan Smith is saying we should back out and forget about Brexit

Interesting times.
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Re: Wonderful things happening after the referendum and A50

Postby Stooo » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:29 pm

Guest wrote:I never thought I would ever support the DUP, how times have changed,

Theresa faces a battle on both sides and could end up a " Has Been" PM. if the DUP walk out of Parliament

Even Duncan Smith is saying we should back out and forget about Brexit

Interesting times.


Why would you support the DUP? Is it the anti gay stuff, abortions or the hatred of the Pope?
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Re: Wonderful things happening after the referendum and A50

Postby Guest » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:39 pm

Do you remember the Brexit debate

May 2016 wrote:
Brexiter wrote:
Remainer wrote:A hard border in Ireland would throw the Northern Irish situation into turmoil. That alone makes Brexit all but impossible.

NONSENSE - PROJECT FEAR.

May 2017 wrote:
Brexiter wrote:
Remainer wrote:Have you sorted out that Ireland problem yet.

It's nothing to worry about, a child could resolve it.
It can wait

Nov 2017 wrote:
Brexiter wrote:
Remainer wrote:You haven't mentioned how you solved the Irish question.

It just needs someone to get creative with solutions.
Not us obviously just someone in general terms

Dec 2016 wrote:
Remainer wrote:
Brexiter wrote:This Irish border question has turned out to be very complex. It could completely derail Brexit

Who knew
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Re: Wonderful things happening after the referendum and A50

Postby Viper » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:41 pm

Guest wrote:I never thought I would ever support the DUP, how times have changed,

Theresa faces a battle on both sides and could end up a " Has Been" PM. if the DUP walk out of Parliament

Even Duncan Smith is saying we should back out and forget about Brexit

Interesting times.


Ids of course isnt saying that. He is saying sack off negotiation and wto it. Because he is a sensible man. Who understands democracy.
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Re: Wonderful things happening after the referendum and A50

Postby Guest » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:42 pm

Stooo wrote:
Guest wrote:I never thought I would ever support the DUP, how times have changed,

Theresa faces a battle on both sides and could end up a " Has Been" PM. if the DUP walk out of Parliament

Even Duncan Smith is saying we should back out and forget about Brexit

Interesting times.


Why would you support the DUP? Is it the anti gay stuff, abortions or the hatred of the Pope?


None of the above,

They could be the ones that put a halt on the forthcoming Economic Suicide called Brexit
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Re: Wonderful things happening after the referendum and A50

Postby Stooo » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:44 pm

Guest wrote:
Stooo wrote:
Guest wrote:I never thought I would ever support the DUP, how times have changed,

Theresa faces a battle on both sides and could end up a " Has Been" PM. if the DUP walk out of Parliament

Even Duncan Smith is saying we should back out and forget about Brexit

Interesting times.


Why would you support the DUP? Is it the anti gay stuff, abortions or the hatred of the Pope?


None of the above,

They could be the ones that put a halt on the forthcoming Economic Suicide called Brexit


That's as cunning as fuck, they're all a bit fick though :dunno:
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Re: Wonderful things happening after the referendum and A50

Postby Guest » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:46 pm

Viper wrote:
Guest wrote:I never thought I would ever support the DUP, how times have changed,

Theresa faces a battle on both sides and could end up a " Has Been" PM. if the DUP walk out of Parliament

Even Duncan Smith is saying we should back out and forget about Brexit

Interesting times.


Ids of course isnt saying that. He is saying sack off negotiation and wto it. Because he is a sensible man. Who understands democracy.

WTO would say put in a hard border - because those are the WTO rules and the UK would have to abide by them.

The first customs post that goes up would be attacked within a week.
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Re: Wonderful things happening after the referendum and A50

Postby Viper » Tue Dec 05, 2017 8:09 pm

Guest wrote:
Viper wrote:
Guest wrote:I never thought I would ever support the DUP, how times have changed,

Theresa faces a battle on both sides and could end up a " Has Been" PM. if the DUP walk out of Parliament

Even Duncan Smith is saying we should back out and forget about Brexit

Interesting times.


Ids of course isnt saying that. He is saying sack off negotiation and wto it. Because he is a sensible man. Who understands democracy.

WTO would say put in a hard border - because those are the WTO rules and the UK would have to abide by them.

The first customs post that goes up would be attacked within a week.


Hi sorcha.

Please dont threaten criminal violence on behalf of NI.

Maybe more prisons needed?
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Re: Wonderful things happening after the referendum and A50

Postby McAz » Tue Dec 05, 2017 8:13 pm

Guest wrote:
Viper wrote:
Guest wrote:I never thought I would ever support the DUP, how times have changed,

Theresa faces a battle on both sides and could end up a " Has Been" PM. if the DUP walk out of Parliament

Even Duncan Smith is saying we should back out and forget about Brexit

Interesting times.


Ids of course isnt saying that. He is saying sack off negotiation and wto it. Because he is a sensible man. Who understands democracy.

WTO would say put in a hard border - because those are the WTO rules and the UK would have to abide by them.

The first customs post that goes up would be attacked within a week.



Quite so, it would play right into the hands of the men of violence - more unnecessary death and suffering. :shake head:
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Re: Wonderful things happening after the referendum and A50

Postby Guest » Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:51 pm

Viper wrote:
Guest wrote:WTO would say put in a hard border - because those are the WTO rules and the UK would have to abide by them.

The first customs post that goes up would be attacked within a week.


Hi sorcha.

Please dont threaten criminal violence on behalf of NI.

Maybe more prisons needed?

Don't be such a fucking moron.

British customs houses have been targets for Irish Republicans since long before either of us were born and it won't change should they be reintroduced.

WTO rules - and remember the UK is not presently a member of the WTO as all that is handled by the EU and the UK would not become a member in its own right for at least two years - state that if the UK is outside of the customs union then there must be customs posts along the border.

Interestingly what was proposed BY THE UK was called parallel harmonisation of regulations, a formula by which the UK was not a member of the customs union but gave a legally binding undertaking to 'harmonise' all of its tariffs and regulations with the EU, this would be accomplished by a mechanism called a Royal Prerogative - essentially giving Brussels the power to make British law without reference to the British Parliament (something that could never happen while Britain is a member of the EU). What the DUP objected to was an amendment, inserted by the British, that made this a part of the powers of the devolved administration in Northern Ireland so the EU's power over customs and tariffs would only apply to Northern Ireland and would set up a 'hard border' between Northern Ireland and the rest of the UK.

Essentially, in the eyes of the DUP, it handed sovereignty over Northern Ireland to Brussels.
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Re: Wonderful things happening after the referendum and A50

Postby Viper » Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:22 pm

Guest wrote:
Viper wrote:
Guest wrote:WTO would say put in a hard border - because those are the WTO rules and the UK would have to abide by them.

The first customs post that goes up would be attacked within a week.


Hi sorcha.

Please dont threaten criminal violence on behalf of NI.

Maybe more prisons needed?

Don't be such a fucking moron.

British customs houses have been targets for Irish Republicans since long before either of us were born and it won't change should they be reintroduced.

WTO rules - and remember the UK is not presently a member of the WTO as all that is handled by the EU and the UK would not become a member in its own right for at least two years - state that if the UK is outside of the customs union then there must be customs posts along the border.

Interestingly what was proposed BY THE UK was called parallel harmonisation of regulations, a formula by which the UK was not a member of the customs union but gave a legally binding undertaking to 'harmonise' all of its tariffs and regulations with the EU, this would be accomplished by a mechanism called a Royal Prerogative - essentially giving Brussels the power to make British law without reference to the British Parliament (something that could never happen while Britain is a member of the EU). What the DUP objected to was an amendment, inserted by the British, that made this a part of the powers of the devolved administration in Northern Ireland so the EU's power over customs and tariffs would only apply to Northern Ireland and would set up a 'hard border' between Northern Ireland and the rest of the UK.

Essentially, in the eyes of the DUP, it handed sovereignty over Northern Ireland to Brussels.

Tl;dr
Lol remoaner wall of text. Not a citation in sight.

Brexit :cuppaT:

Anyone seen canny today? He was convinced of a soft/non brexit and corbyn winning a GE in 10 days yesterday :pmsl:

Ges been quiet today.
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Re: Wonderful things happening after the referendum and A50

Postby Stooo » Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:31 pm

Whistling past the graveyard...
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Re: Wonderful things happening after the referendum and A50

Postby McAz » Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:37 pm

'We can't go on like this': mood of resignation in EU as Brexit talks stutter

One EU ambassador told the Guardian the failure to reach a deal on Northern Ireland was a microcosm of a wider problem. “At root the problem is that [May] seems incapable of making a decision and is afraid of her own shadow,” the source said.

“We cannot go on like this, with no idea what the UK wants. She just has to have the conversation with her own cabinet, and if that upsets someone, or someone resigns, so be it. She has to say what kind of trading relationship she is seeking. We cannot do it for her, and she cannot defer forever.”

“They have to solve this thing 100% by themselves but unfortunately it looks impossible. We really don’t want to the negotiations to fall down, we don’t want the British government to fall apart, but what can we do?” said Petri Sarvamaa, a Finnish centre-right MEP who is a vice-chair of the European parliament’s budgets committee.


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/dec/05/we-cant-go-on-like-this-mood-of-resignation-in-eu-as-brexit-talks-stutter

This is sounding dangerous - depleted morale and panic can lead to rash decisions.
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Re: Wonderful things happening after the referendum and A50

Postby Guest » Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:29 pm

Viper wrote:
Guest wrote:
Viper wrote:
Guest wrote:WTO would say put in a hard border - because those are the WTO rules and the UK would have to abide by them.

The first customs post that goes up would be attacked within a week.


Hi sorcha.

Please dont threaten criminal violence on behalf of NI.

Maybe more prisons needed?

Don't be such a fucking moron.

British customs houses have been targets for Irish Republicans since long before either of us were born and it won't change should they be reintroduced.

WTO rules - and remember the UK is not presently a member of the WTO as all that is handled by the EU and the UK would not become a member in its own right for at least two years - state that if the UK is outside of the customs union then there must be customs posts along the border.

Interestingly what was proposed BY THE UK was called parallel harmonisation of regulations, a formula by which the UK was not a member of the customs union but gave a legally binding undertaking to 'harmonise' all of its tariffs and regulations with the EU, this would be accomplished by a mechanism called a Royal Prerogative - essentially giving Brussels the power to make British law without reference to the British Parliament (something that could never happen while Britain is a member of the EU). What the DUP objected to was an amendment, inserted by the British, that made this a part of the powers of the devolved administration in Northern Ireland so the EU's power over customs and tariffs would only apply to Northern Ireland and would set up a 'hard border' between Northern Ireland and the rest of the UK.

Essentially, in the eyes of the DUP, it handed sovereignty over Northern Ireland to Brussels.

Tl;dr
Lol remoaner wall of text. Not a citation in sight.

Brexit :cuppaT:

Anyone seen canny today? He was convinced of a soft/non brexit and corbyn winning a GE in 10 days yesterday :pmsl:

Ges been quiet today.

No wonder everyone has left this forum - you're a classic example of an inverse ratio between the size of the mouth and the size of the brain and seem completely uninformed on what is common knowledge.
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Re: Wonderful things happening after the referendum and A50

Postby Guest » Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:36 pm

Guest wrote:
Stooo wrote:
Guest wrote:The denialists will still have their blinkers on and say it will be alright, it'll be like 1975

25% inflation
foreign investment in UK minimal etc etc


Loads of strikes, sick man of Europe.


Had to laugh, saw this 'debate' on ITV this morning and people still think we ONLY trade with the EU.

Why can't we trade with Australia and 'Merica? Er we do ya dozy twonks, FFS. :facepalm:

Who said we only trade with Europe - I don't recall anyone saying that.

I do recall Donald Trump saying that he wanted to take American jobs back to America so I guess the Ford Factory, which was only here because it gave access to the Single Market, won't be needed to produce American cars to sell to America.
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