America Launches Air Strikes Against Syria.

Re: America Launches Air Strikes Against Syria.

Postby Guest » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:57 am

Si_Crewe wrote:
rollup wrote:
Si_Crewe wrote:Step away from the tin-foil hat website.

It's guaranteed you believed the Iraq bullshit the Libya bullshit the Afghani bullshit and the Syria bullshit too.
When cruise missiles slam into Tehran out of the blue you'll believe the BBC version that the people are having an uprising.
Jock Mcpea brain Crewe strikes again.


Whereas, you'll just swallow any old shite that somebody on the internet says they heard from somebody else as if it's a verified fact if it's something you believed anyway.

"Hey, look! I saw a website where some guy says he talked to some other guy who thinks unicorns exist so UNICORNS EXIST MUTHAFUCKA!!!!!!!" :off head: :off head: :off head:

Seriously, get a fucking grip. You only make yourself look like a fucking troofa when you post streams of shit like this. :shake head:


:link: to any tin foil hat sites that says unicorns exist :off head: :off head:
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Re: America Launches Air Strikes Against Syria.

Postby Big Fat Frosty » Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:41 am

Si_Crewe wrote:
rollup wrote:
Si_Crewe wrote:Step away from the tin-foil hat website.

It's guaranteed you believed the Iraq bullshit the Libya bullshit the Afghani bullshit and the Syria bullshit too.
When cruise missiles slam into Tehran out of the blue you'll believe the BBC version that the people are having an uprising.
Jock Mcpea brain Crewe strikes again.


Whereas, you'll just swallow any old shite that somebody on the internet says they heard from somebody else as if it's a verified fact if it's something you believed anyway.

"Hey, look! I saw a website where some guy says he talked to some other guy who thinks unicorns exist so UNICORNS EXIST MUTHAFUCKA!!!!!!!" :off head: :off head: :off head:

Seriously, get a fucking grip. You only make yourself look like a fucking troofa when you post streams of shit like this. :shake head:

so why are the pentagon commenting on it in congress if its a false story....
your one of the main offenders on here spreading bullshit

Testifying before Congress US Defense Secretary Mattis explained:
“As far as the Tanf situation, that was another operating area that we had. I did not anticipate that the Russians would move there. We knew it was a possibility. I did not anticipate it at that time but it was not a surprise to our intelligence people who saw the potential for them to move out in that direction.”
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Re: America Launches Air Strikes Against Syria.

Postby wutang » Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:08 am

Desperate for a war

US warns Syria over 'potential' plan for chemical attack

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40413563



Officials at the state department and the Department of Defense were caught off guard by the White House announcement, suggesting it was not discussed in advance with other national security agencies, US media report.


Maybe because last time he was told there was no evidence.

US Ambassador Nikki Haley: [i]Any further attacks done to the people of Syria will be blamed on Assad, but also on Russia & Iran who support him killing his own people.[/i]

I love the implication of that comment - 'regardless of who does it we will blame it on our enemies.'
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Re: America Launches Air Strikes Against Syria.

Postby Guest » Tue Jun 27, 2017 11:11 am

Wutang twisting things to suit his agenda. No surprise there.

What they've ACTUALLY said is 'launch another chemical attack on your own people and there will be consequences '.

Normal people will have no problem with that, Wutang.
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Re: America Launches Air Strikes Against Syria.

Postby rollup » Tue Jun 27, 2017 11:13 am

Si_Crewe wrote:
rollup wrote:
Si_Crewe wrote:Step away from the tin-foil hat website.

It's guaranteed you believed the Iraq bullshit the Libya bullshit the Afghani bullshit and the Syria bullshit too.
When cruise missiles slam into Tehran out of the blue you'll believe the BBC version that the people are having an uprising.
Jock Mcpea brain Crewe strikes again.


Whereas, you'll just swallow any old shite that somebody on the internet says they heard from somebody else as if it's a verified fact if it's something you believed anyway.

"Hey, look! I saw a website where some guy says he talked to some other guy who thinks unicorns exist so UNICORNS EXIST MUTHAFUCKA!!!!!!!" :off head: :off head: :off head:

Seriously, get a fucking grip. You only make yourself look like a fucking troofa when you post streams of shit like this. :shake head:

Do these guys read sites that believe in unicorns?
These kind of troofas ......
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Re: America Launches Air Strikes Against Syria.

Postby wutang » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:01 pm

Guest wrote:Wutang twisting things to suit his agenda. No surprise there.

What they've ACTUALLY said is 'launch another chemical attack on your own people and there will be consequences '.

Normal people will have no problem with that, Wutang.



Nikki Haleys own tweet:

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ANY attack on the Syrian people will be blamed on Assad (and Russia/Iran)
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Re: America Launches Air Strikes Against Syria.

Postby wutang » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:04 pm

Doesn't make sense for Assad to launch a chemical weapon attack, which would almost guarantee the USA ramps up their military action against him, when things are going well for him

Syria's more confident Assad gives Eid prayers in Hama

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mide ... SKBN19G06K



Syrian President Bashar al-Assad delivered prayers for Islam's Eid al-Fitr holiday in Hama on Sunday, the furthest he has traveled inside Syria in years, showing his growing confidence.

State television broadcast footage of Assad standing to pray in a large mosque in Hama behind its imam, with other clerics standing alongside and a large crowd of worshippers.

State news agency SANA quoted the preacher as saying that Assad's presence in the city for Eid showed that victory and the return of security were only "a few steps" away.

Syria's civil war has turned to Assad's favor since 2015, when Russia sent its jets to help his army and allied Shi'ite militias backed by Iran turn back rebels and win new ground.
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Re: America Launches Air Strikes Against Syria.

Postby Guest » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:17 pm

Guest wrote:Wutang twisting things to suit his agenda. No surprise there.

What they've ACTUALLY said is 'launch another chemical attack on your own people and there will be consequences '.

Normal people will have no problem with that, Wutang.


Because of your absolute twattishness you have been owned
Do some research next time. Moron
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Re: America Launches Air Strikes Against Syria.

Postby Guest » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:31 pm

Change in confidence in US President, Obama to Trump:

Germany -75%
S Korea -71%
France -70%
Canada -61%
UK -57%
Japan -54% :shake head:

Russia +42% :gigglesnshit:
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Re: America Launches Air Strikes Against Syria.

Postby Si_Crewe » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:53 pm

rollup wrote:Do these guys read sites that believe in unicorns?
These kind of troofas ......
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http://patriotsquestion911.com/military


I have no idea if they do or not.

If they're the sort of people who are asserting that something is true simply because they heard about a guy who knows a guy who thinks it's true then, yeah. They are.

Beyond that, if they're suggesting that US foreign policy assisted the people who carried out the 9/11 attacks or even that, perhaps, the US were remiss in the way they dealt with the 9/11 attacks then they might have a point.
If, OTOH, they support anything involving space lasers, thermite, holographic planes, or planes filled with explosives and flown by CIA agents then they're obviously mad as a box of frogs.

Let's face it, being an architect, firefighter or soldier doesn't preclude a person from being a nutcase as well.
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Re: America Launches Air Strikes Against Syria.

Postby rollup » Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:41 pm

Legendary investigative reporter Seymour Hersh is challenging the Trump administration’s version of events surrounding the April 4 “chemical weapons attack” on the northern Syrian town of Khan Sheikhoun – though Hersh had to find a publisher in Germany to get his information out.

In the Sunday edition of Die Welt, Hersh reports that his national security sources offered a distinctly different account, revealing President Trump rashly deciding to launch 59 Tomahawk missiles against a Syrian airbase on April 6 despite the absence of intelligence supporting his conclusion that the Syrian military was guilty.

Russia and Syrian Air Force officers gave details of the flight path to and from Khan Sheikhoun in English, Hersh reported. The target was a two-story cinderblock building in which senior leaders – “high-value targets” – of the two jihadist groups controlling the town were about to hold a meeting. Because of the perceived importance of the mission, the Russians took the unusual step of giving the Syrian air force a GPS-guided bomb to do the job, but the explosives were conventional, not chemical, Hersh reported.

The meeting place was on the floor above the basement of the building, where a source whom Hersh described as “a senior adviser to the U.S. intelligence community,” told Hersh: “The basement was used as storage for rockets, weapons, and ammunition … and also chlorine-based decontaminates for cleansing the bodies of the dead before burial.”
More here >>>>> https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/06/26 ... ia-attack/
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Re: America Launches Air Strikes Against Syria.

Postby Stooo » Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:43 pm

Well this is awkward...

On April 6, United States President Donald Trump authorized an early morning Tomahawk missile strike on Shayrat Air Base in central Syria in retaliation for what he said was a deadly nerve agent attack carried out by the Syrian government two days earlier in the rebel-held town of Khan Sheikhoun. Trump issued the order despite having been warned by the U.S. intelligence community that it had found no evidence that the Syrians had used a chemical weapon.

The available intelligence made clear that the Syrians had targeted a jihadist meeting site on April 4 using a Russian-supplied guided bomb equipped with conventional explosives. Details of the attack, including information on its so-called high-value targets, had been provided by the Russians days in advance to American and allied military officials in Doha, whose mission is to coordinate all U.S., allied, Syrian and Russian Air Force operations in the region.

Some American military and intelligence officials were especially distressed by the president's determination to ignore the evidence. "None of this makes any sense," one officer told colleagues upon learning of the decision to bomb. "We KNOW that there was no chemical attack ... the Russians are furious. Claiming we have the real intel and know the truth ... I guess it didn't matter whether we elected Clinton or Trump.“

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In a series of interviews, I learned of the total disconnect between the president and many of his military advisers and intelligence officials, as well as officers on the ground in the region who had an entirely different understanding of the nature of Syria’s attack on Khan Sheikhoun. I was provided with evidence of that disconnect, in the form of transcripts of real-time communications, immediately following the Syrian attack on April 4. In an important pre-strike process known as deconfliction, U.S. and Russian officers routinely supply one another with advance details of planned flight paths and target coordinates, to ensure that there is no risk of collision or accidental encounter (the Russians speak on behalf of the Syrian military). This information is supplied daily to the American AWACS surveillance planes that monitor the flights once airborne. Deconfliction’s success and importance can be measured by the fact that there has yet to be one collision, or even a near miss, among the high-powered supersonic American, Allied, Russian and Syrian fighter bombers.
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Russian and Syrian Air Force officers gave details of the carefully planned flight path to and from Khan Shiekhoun on April 4 directly, in English, to the deconfliction monitors aboard the AWACS plane, which was on patrol near the Turkish border, 60 miles or more to the north.

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One reason for the Russian message to Washington about the intended target was to ensure that any CIA asset or informant who had managed to work his way into the jihadist leadership was forewarned not to attend the meeting. I was told that the Russians passed the warning directly to the CIA. “They were playing the game right,” the senior adviser said.

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“It was a totally Trump show from beginning to end,” the senior adviser said. “A few of the president’s senior national security advisers viewed the mission as a minimized bad presidential decision, and one that they had an obligation to carry out. But I don’t think our national security people are going to allow themselves to be hustled into a bad decision again. If Trump had gone for option three, there might have been some immediate resignations.”


https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/art ... -Line.html

And today:

The White House has said it believes the Syrian government is planning a chemical weapons attack and warned Bashar al-Assad that his regime will “pay a heavy price” if it does so.

However, several US defence officials have said they are not familiar with the intelligence that informed the statement.

“The United States has identified potential preparations for another chemical weapons attack by the Assad regime that would likely result in the mass murder of civilians, including innocent children,” the White House said in a statement on Monday night, claiming the planning was similar in nature to the steps taken before the 4 April sarin gas attack in Khan Sheikhoun that killed dozens of civilians.

The incident prompted US President Donald Trump to launch a “one-off” retaliatory cruise missile strike on a Syrian airbase – the first direct intervention by the US in more than six years of the Syrian civil war.

“If Mr Assad conducts another mass murder attack using chemical weapons, he and his military will pay a heavy price,” the White House continued.

The Syrian government has consistently denied that it carried out the attack or that it possesses any chemical weapons after giving up its stocks to international inspectors in 2013.

White House officials did not respond to requests for comment on Monday night on the allegations or what form US retaliation would take. Several sources across the US State Department, Pentagon and Central Command, which oversees the country’s military operations in Syria and Iraq – said that they did not know what had prompted the unprecedented threat to the Assad regime.

An official at Central Command told BuzzFeed News they had “no idea” what prompted the statement.

Several policy advisers at the State Department appeared not to have been briefed before the White House statement went out, learning about the news from reporters instead.

On Tuesday, the White House said it wanted to "clarify that all relevant agencies... were involved in the process from the beginning," spokesperson Sarah Sanders said, noting that the State Department, Pentagon, CIA and Office of the Director of National Intelligence were involved.

"Anonymous leaks to the contrary are false," she added in an emailed statement to Reuters.

There had been “abnormal” activity at an airbase where the Syrian government is suspected of hiding or creating new chemical weapons agents, the Pentagon said on Tuesday, shedding light on the initially unsubstantiated claims.

Although the intelligence was not considered conclusive, the administration issued the swift public warning about the consequences of another chemical attack in an attempt to deter such action, officials said.

Mr Trump himself, who took to Twitter shortly after the statement was published, did not address the threat made to Syria, writing instead about a Fox News report on Barack Obama’s failure to stop Russian interference in the 2016 general election.

The warning to the Syrian government comes three days after US army Colonel Ryan Dillon, spokesperson for the international coalition against Isis, told reporters in Baghdad that the US would welcome concerted efforts from Syria and its Iranian and Russian allies to eliminate the extremists in the east of the country.

Tensions have escalated between Donald Trump and the Assad regime in the last three months after the US’s strike on an airbase near Homs and several mostly defensive actions against Syrian and Iranian forces.


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Re: America Launches Air Strikes Against Syria.

Postby Stooo » Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:44 pm

rollup wrote:Legendary investigative reporter Seymour Hersh is challenging the Trump administration’s version of events surrounding the April 4 “chemical weapons attack” on the northern Syrian town of Khan Sheikhoun – though Hersh had to find a publisher in Germany to get his information out.

In the Sunday edition of Die Welt, Hersh reports that his national security sources offered a distinctly different account, revealing President Trump rashly deciding to launch 59 Tomahawk missiles against a Syrian airbase on April 6 despite the absence of intelligence supporting his conclusion that the Syrian military was guilty.

Russia and Syrian Air Force officers gave details of the flight path to and from Khan Sheikhoun in English, Hersh reported. The target was a two-story cinderblock building in which senior leaders – “high-value targets” – of the two jihadist groups controlling the town were about to hold a meeting. Because of the perceived importance of the mission, the Russians took the unusual step of giving the Syrian air force a GPS-guided bomb to do the job, but the explosives were conventional, not chemical, Hersh reported.

The meeting place was on the floor above the basement of the building, where a source whom Hersh described as “a senior adviser to the U.S. intelligence community,” told Hersh: “The basement was used as storage for rockets, weapons, and ammunition … and also chlorine-based decontaminates for cleansing the bodies of the dead before burial.”
More here >>>>> https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/06/26 ... ia-attack/


Just been reading that Jack, didn't intend to piss on your matches :oops:
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Re: America Launches Air Strikes Against Syria.

Postby rollup » Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:52 pm

Stooo wrote:
rollup wrote:Legendary investigative reporter Seymour Hersh is challenging the Trump administration’s version of events surrounding the April 4 “chemical weapons attack” on the northern Syrian town of Khan Sheikhoun – though Hersh had to find a publisher in Germany to get his information out.

In the Sunday edition of Die Welt, Hersh reports that his national security sources offered a distinctly different account, revealing President Trump rashly deciding to launch 59 Tomahawk missiles against a Syrian airbase on April 6 despite the absence of intelligence supporting his conclusion that the Syrian military was guilty.

Russia and Syrian Air Force officers gave details of the flight path to and from Khan Sheikhoun in English, Hersh reported. The target was a two-story cinderblock building in which senior leaders – “high-value targets” – of the two jihadist groups controlling the town were about to hold a meeting. Because of the perceived importance of the mission, the Russians took the unusual step of giving the Syrian air force a GPS-guided bomb to do the job, but the explosives were conventional, not chemical, Hersh reported.

The meeting place was on the floor above the basement of the building, where a source whom Hersh described as “a senior adviser to the U.S. intelligence community,” told Hersh: “The basement was used as storage for rockets, weapons, and ammunition … and also chlorine-based decontaminates for cleansing the bodies of the dead before burial.”
More here >>>>> https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/06/26 ... ia-attack/


Just been reading that Jack, didn't intend to piss on your matches :oops:

I've not heard it put like that before! :mrgreen:
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Re: America Launches Air Strikes Against Syria.

Postby rollup » Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:58 pm

None of this makes any sense. We KNOW that there was no chemical attack. The Syrians struck a weapons cache (a legitimate military target) and there was collateral damage. That's it. They did not conduct any sort of a chemical attack.

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AS: And now we’re shoving a shit load of TLAMs (tomahawks) up their ass.
SA: There has been a hidden agenda all along. This is about trying to ultimately go after Iran. What the people around Trump do not understand is that the Russians are not a paper tiger and that they have more robust military capability than we do.

AS: I don't know what the Russians are going to do. They might hang back and let the Syrians defend their own borders, or they might provide some sort of tepid support, or they might blow us the fuck out of the airspace and back into Iraq. I honestly don't know what to expect right now. I feel like anything is possible. The russian air defense system is capable of taking out our TLAMs. this is a big fucking deal...we are still all systems go...

SA: You are so right. Russia is not going to take this lying down

SA: Who is pushing this? Is it coming from Votel (General Joseph L. Votel, Commander of United States Central Command, editor‘s note) ? >>>>>> https://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/art ... oblem.html
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