Our Acceptable Hate Preachers

[McAz]

Those on the left are so desperate to downplay the threat from islam, that newspaper editors are now being called' hate preachers' and isis are being compared to football hooligans.

LoL that people genuinely believe this shit.

And yet here you are here defending BNP/EDL/Britain First scum - why is that?

LoL.

[Keyser]

This isn't dissimilar to when those on the liberal left try and compare the BNP with Isis as being like for like.

Ultra liberal left police.

English Defence League and British National Party as dangerous as Isis, warn Derbyshire Police

The English Defence League and the British National Party are "just as much of a real threat" as Islamic State (Isis), Derbyshire Police have said. Sergeant John Brooker said that his police force treat far-right groups the same way they would treat Isis.

"The biggest threat is very much centred on Syria and Iraq based on groups such as Islamic State, however, we certainly can't ignore the right-wing issues and the far-right issues that do exist in our communities and are just as much of a real threat in terms of community division, hatred and deplorable acts as anything else."

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/english-defence-league-british-national-party-dangerous-isis-warn-derbyshire-police-1544728

Sorry Az but that is PC bullshit.

They are just a group of pissed up racist hooligans - how can they be compared to a massive organisation like Daesh and all of the atrocities they have committed in Syria and inspired around the globe - not least here recently?

They can't in my opinion.

In terms of the power/influence they currently yield you are correct - but in terms of their authoritarian ideology you are not. They even share training films:

British Nazi Jihadis: Fanatics use ISIS training video to prepare to fight race war



British neo-nazi fanatics are holding paramilitary-style boot camps to train recruits for a bloody race war.

Shocking footage obtained by the Sunday Mirror shows Craig Fraser, the leader of a far-right group called Sigurd Legion, bragging about screening a jihadist film at a training session next month.

In a conversation with the notorious self-proclaimed “white nationalist” Kai Murras, powerfully-built Fraser says: “One of the videos we’re going to show at the next Sigurd camp, we’re going to get a projector up and project a jihadis training for ISIS over in Syria, showing them how they train”.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/british-nazi-jihadis-mirror-investigation-4847059

All I see is a group of sad bastards who might be handy with their fists down the pub.

You cannot compare that to people being slowly beheaded with a small knife, burned alive or thrown off buildings etc etc.

We will agree to disagree on this and the authorities are so terrified of being accused of 'Islamophobia' that they come up with utter bollocks like that copper.

He should be ashamed.

[McAz]

This isn't dissimilar to when those on the liberal left try and compare the BNP with Isis as being like for like.

Ultra liberal left police.

English Defence League and British National Party as dangerous as Isis, warn Derbyshire Police

The English Defence League and the British National Party are "just as much of a real threat" as Islamic State (Isis), Derbyshire Police have said. Sergeant John Brooker said that his police force treat far-right groups the same way they would treat Isis.

"The biggest threat is very much centred on Syria and Iraq based on groups such as Islamic State, however, we certainly can't ignore the right-wing issues and the far-right issues that do exist in our communities and are just as much of a real threat in terms of community division, hatred and deplorable acts as anything else."

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/english-defence-league-british-national-party-dangerous-isis-warn-derbyshire-police-1544728

Sorry Az but that is PC bullshit.

They are just a group of pissed up racist hooligans - how can they be compared to a massive organisation like Daesh and all of the atrocities they have committed in Syria and inspired around the globe - not least here recently?

They can't in my opinion.

In terms of the power/influence they currently yield you are correct - but in terms of their authoritarian ideology you are not. They even share training films:

British Nazi Jihadis: Fanatics use ISIS training video to prepare to fight race war



British neo-nazi fanatics are holding paramilitary-style boot camps to train recruits for a bloody race war.

Shocking footage obtained by the Sunday Mirror shows Craig Fraser, the leader of a far-right group called Sigurd Legion, bragging about screening a jihadist film at a training session next month.

In a conversation with the notorious self-proclaimed “white nationalist” Kai Murras, powerfully-built Fraser says: “One of the videos we’re going to show at the next Sigurd camp, we’re going to get a projector up and project a jihadis training for ISIS over in Syria, showing them how they train”.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/british-nazi-jihadis-mirror-investigation-4847059

All I see is a group of sad bastards who might be handy with their fists down the pub.

You cannot compare that to people being slowly beheaded with a small knife, burned alive or thrown off buildings etc etc.

We will agree to disagree on this and the authorities are so terrified of being accused of 'Islamophobia' that they come up with utter bollocks like that copper.

He should be ashamed.

I'm not comparing, Derbyshire police are - and rightly so imv. All the separates the far-right from ISIS is that our home-grown fascists are shit at it.

[Stooo]

Those on the left are so desperate to downplay the threat from islam, that newspaper editors are now being called' hate preachers' and isis are being compared to football hooligans.

They are telling people who to hate, like it or not and it's been proved many times.

LoL that people genuinely believe this shit.

Yeah, lol that they believe the social wisdom of billionaires. Envy? Nah, I just want us to have a fair society.

[Guest]

The UK has thousands of these type of blokes

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bradford/8460696.stm

A man who admitted making nail bombs at his West Yorkshire home has been jailed for 11 years.
Terence Gavan, 38, who the Old Bailey heard showed a strong hostility towards immigrants, was arrested by police in a raid at his home in May 2009.
The bus driver's arsenal of weapons and explosives included home-made shotguns, pen guns and pistols.
Gavan, from Batley, also pleaded guilty to six counts of having or collecting documents useful in terrorism.
Sentencing Gavan, Mr Justice Calvert-Smith said his case was "unique" because of his long and persistent manufacture of guns and explosives.
Gavan, who the court heard was a former member of the BNP, pleaded guilty to 22 charges at Woolwich Crown Court in November.
Police discovered 12 firearms and 54 improvised explosive devices,

which included nail bombs and a booby-trapped cigarette packet, at the home Gavan shared with his mother.

[Stooo]

All I see is a group of sad bastards who might be handy with their fists down the pub.

You cannot compare that to people being slowly beheaded with a small knife, burned alive or thrown off buildings etc etc.

We will agree to disagree on this and the authorities are so terrified of being accused of 'Islamophobia' that they come up with utter bollocks like that copper.

He should be ashamed.

The only small knife executions that I've seen are South American, diesh tend to use those bullshit combat knives that you see in army surplus shops, gay as fuck. That said, the cartels are fond of chainsaws as well

As for burning people alive, ahem...

[Guest]

Those on the left are so desperate to downplay the threat from islam, that newspaper editors are now being called' hate preachers' and isis are being compared to football hooligans.

They are telling people who to hate, like it or not and it's been proved many times.

LoL that people genuinely believe this shit.

Yeah, lol that they believe the social wisdom of billionaires. Envy? Nah, I just want us to have a fair society.

Red doesn't support that ideology

[McAz]

The UK has thousands of these type of blokes

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bradford/8460696.stm

A man who admitted making nail bombs at his West Yorkshire home has been jailed for 11 years.
Terence Gavan, 38, who the Old Bailey heard showed a strong hostility towards immigrants, was arrested by police in a raid at his home in May 2009.
The bus driver's arsenal of weapons and explosives included home-made shotguns, pen guns and pistols.
Gavan, from Batley, also pleaded guilty to six counts of having or collecting documents useful in terrorism.
Sentencing Gavan, Mr Justice Calvert-Smith said his case was "unique" because of his long and persistent manufacture of guns and explosives.
Gavan, who the court heard was a former member of the BNP, pleaded guilty to 22 charges at Woolwich Crown Court in November.
Police discovered 12 firearms and 54 improvised explosive devices,

which included nail bombs and a booby-trapped cigarette packet, at the home Gavan shared with his mother.

No, probably a leftie in disguise...

.. desperate to downplay the threat from islam...

LoL

[Red Okktober]

And yet here you are here defending BNP/EDL/Britain First scum - why is that?

LoL.

Who's defending the BNP/EDL? - I just called them 'pissed up hooligans'. I didn't even mention Britain First. Do you just type the first thing that comes into your head? Or are you unable to tell the difference between defending someone and laughing at a ridiculous comparison?

You still haven't told us why 'the Tories' were 'bigging up' the Finsbury park attack. Perhaps you should count to 10 before you press 'submit'?

Anyway, we have it in black and white now that you are of the opinion that Isis are comparable to football hooligans.

[McAz]

And yet here you are here defending BNP/EDL/Britain First scum - why is that?

LoL.

Who's defending the BNP/EDL? - I just called them 'pissed up hooligans'. I didn't even mention Britain First. Do just type the first thing that comes into your head? Or are you unable to tell the difference between defending someone and laughing at a ridiculous comparison?

You still haven't told us why 'the Tories' were 'bigging up' the Finsbury park attack. Perhaps you should count to 10 before you press 'submit'?

Anyway, we have it in black and white now that you are of the opinion that Isis are comparable to football hooligans.

BNP/EDL may well be pissed up holligans (I don't drink with them so wouldn't know) - doesn't mean they are not dangerous fascists, firestarter.

And what was that, Islamic fascists are different from British fascists - how so?

Who are "us" BTW - who do you represent?

[Red Okktober]

Those on the left are so desperate to downplay the threat from islam, that newspaper editors are now being called' hate preachers' and isis are being compared to football hooligans.

They are telling people who to hate, like it or not and it's been proved many times.

LoL that people genuinely believe this shit.

Yeah, lol that they believe the social wisdom of billionaires. Envy? Nah, I just want us to have a fair society.

Fair enough, if you want to believe newspaper editors are hate preachers, that's your prerogative. Funny as fuck though.

What next, people that daub graffiti on mosques, are what...comparable to suicide bombers? Punching someone in the face is just as bad as beheading someone?

That's how surreal this thread has become.

[Stooo]

Those on the left are so desperate to downplay the threat from islam, that newspaper editors are now being called' hate preachers' and isis are being compared to football hooligans.

They are telling people who to hate, like it or not and it's been proved many times.

LoL that people genuinely believe this shit.

Yeah, lol that they believe the social wisdom of billionaires. Envy? Nah, I just want us to have a fair society.

Fair enough, if you want to believe newspaper editors are hate preachers, that's your prerogative. Funny as fuck though.

What next, people that daub graffiti on mosques, are what...comparable to suicide bombers? Punching someone in the face is just as bad as beheading someone?

That's how surreal this thread has become.

I'm simply reinforcing the OP, you just seem to want to attack other posters rather than address the fact that's staring you in the face.

[McAz]

Fair enough, if you want to believe newspaper editors are hate preachers, that's your prerogative. Funny as fuck though.

What next, people that daub graffiti on mosques, are what...comparable to suicide bombers? Punching someone in the face is just as bad as beheading someone?

That's how surreal this thread has become.

If only far-right fascist Thomas Mair and Islamophobic fascist Darren Osborne had confined their activities to surreal daubings on mosques.

[wutang]

Far-Right on the rise warns Security Minister

The Government’s security minister has warned of the rise of far-Right extremism in Britain, as the latest Home Office figures showed a sharp rise in arrests for domestic terrorism offences.

The number people held for suspected domestic terror offences jumped nearly five-fold in the past 12 months in Great Britain.

Far-Right terrorist suspects drove the increase, security sources told the Telegraph.

Aaron Winter, an academic at the University of East London who researches far-Right extremism, said neo-Nazi groups had increasingly pushed an anti-Muslim agenda.

He said: “In the past number of years, from 7/7 but also more recently, there’s been organisation around anti-Muslim activism.

“There’s an increasing mobilisation against Muslims."

He said recent years had seen "increased activism and plots, increased public statements about calling for violence", from Right-wing extremists, but police had also been paying more attention to their activities.

He said there had been an increase in hate crimes such as arsons at mosques, as anti-Muslim rhetoric became more prevalent.

Police in London recorded a spike in the number of Islamophobic incidents after the London Bridge terrorist attack earlier this month, with 20 recorded on June 6 - compared with a daily average of 3.5.

The tally was the highest this year and more than after the Paris attacks in November 2015, and the murder of Lee Rigby in May 2013.

Its there, but some people are choosing not to see it.

[wutang]

Fair enough, if you want to believe newspaper editors are hate preachers, that's your prerogative. Funny as fuck though.

What next, people that daub graffiti on mosques, are what...comparable to suicide bombers? Punching someone in the face is just as bad as beheading someone?

That's how surreal this thread has become.

If only far-right fascist Thomas Mair and Islamophobic fascist Darren Osborne had confined their activities to surreal daubings on mosques.

Muslims should just accept the hate, abuse, vandalism, death threats, and assaults against them that are on the increase says someone who is isnt affected by it