So much for Strong and Stable

So much for Strong and Stable

Postby Theresa Maynot » Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:01 am

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... rade-talks

David Davies just got has ass handed back to him.

The idea that Europe was going to be pushed around was always a complete nonsense.
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Re: So much for Strong and Stable

Postby rollup » Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:16 am

The idea that this government actually had any plans to deal with a yes vote were also a complete nonsense.
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Re: So much for Strong and Stable

Postby Keyser » Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:08 pm

rollup wrote:The idea that this government actually had any plans to deal with a yes vote were also a complete nonsense.


The entire cabinet is complete nonsense - if Gove or Boris are your big saviours then that says it all!
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Re: So much for Strong and Stable

Postby Si_Crewe » Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:41 pm

Remember, folks: Hard Brexit can't happen as long as Kommisar Jeremy refuses to accept it.

There's nothing to worry about.
If the EU offers us a shit deal then Jeremy will just refuse to endorse it and that will solve everything. :twirl:
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Re: So much for Strong and Stable

Postby Guest » Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:45 pm

Si_Crewe wrote:Remember, folks: Hard Brexit can't happen as long as Kommisar Jeremy refuses to accept it.

There's nothing to worry about.
If the EU offers us a shit deal then Jeremy will just refuse to endorse it and that will solve everything. :twirl:

When the EU offer us a shit deal because of Tory arrogance we'll all have to eat shit and call it chocolate.
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Re: So much for Strong and Stable

Postby Guest » Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:35 pm

Si_Crewe wrote:Remember, folks: Hard Brexit can't happen as long as Kommisar Jeremy refuses to accept it.

There's nothing to worry about.
If the EU offers us a shit deal then Jeremy will just refuse to endorse it and that will solve everything. :twirl:


What are you twattering on about?
JC isn't in the negotiating team.
Where do you get your info from?
Don't you think staying in the EU will save us from WTO 18% tariffs etc?
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Re: So much for Strong and Stable

Postby rollup » Tue Jun 20, 2017 6:07 pm

Guest wrote:
Si_Crewe wrote:Remember, folks: Hard Brexit can't happen as long as Kommisar Jeremy refuses to accept it.

There's nothing to worry about.
If the EU offers us a shit deal then Jeremy will just refuse to endorse it and that will solve everything. :twirl:


What are you twattering on about?
JC isn't in the negotiating team.
Where do you get your info from?
Don't you think staying in the EU will save us from WTO 18% tariffs etc?

Ignore Crewe.
He'll tell you he's been a Labour voter all his life while endlessly slagging off Corbyn and anyone else who leans to the left.
He's a Blairite style Tory simple as.
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Re: So much for Strong and Stable

Postby Guest » Tue Jun 20, 2017 6:27 pm

rollup wrote:
Guest wrote:
Si_Crewe wrote:Remember, folks: Hard Brexit can't happen as long as Kommisar Jeremy refuses to accept it.

There's nothing to worry about.
If the EU offers us a shit deal then Jeremy will just refuse to endorse it and that will solve everything. :twirl:


What are you twattering on about?
JC isn't in the negotiating team.
Where do you get your info from?
Don't you think staying in the EU will save us from WTO 18% tariffs etc?

Ignore Crewe.
He'll tell you he's been a Labour voter all his life while endlessly slagging off Corbyn and anyone else who leans to the left.
He's a Blairite style Tory simple as.


Blairites are a toxic bunch as their ideology has proven over time
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Re: So much for Strong and Stable

Postby Si_Crewe » Tue Jun 20, 2017 6:57 pm

Guest wrote:What are you twattering on about?
JC isn't in the negotiating team.
Where do you get your info from?
Don't you think staying in the EU will save us from WTO 18% tariffs etc?


What a fine ideologue you are.

"WTO tarifs etc"?
Don't give a flying fuck about them, TBH.
More interested in putting an end to foreign interference in British affairs.
Any price which might have to be paid for that is acceptable.

It's bizarre that so many people who paint themselves as left-wing are now in favour of the EU, considering the Labour party has spent the last 40 years saying the common market and, subsequently, the EU is a bad thing for British workers.

Piss weak.
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Re: So much for Strong and Stable

Postby McAz » Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:03 pm

Si_Crewe wrote:
Guest wrote:What are you twattering on about?
JC isn't in the negotiating team.
Where do you get your info from?
Don't you think staying in the EU will save us from WTO 18% tariffs etc?


What a fine ideologue you are.

"WTO tarifs etc"?
Don't give a flying fuck about them, TBH.
More interested in putting an end to foreign interference in British affairs.
Any price which might have to be paid for that is acceptable.

It's bizarre that so many people who paint themselves as left-wing are now in favour of the EU, considering the Labour party has spent the last 40 years saying the common market and, subsequently, the EU is a bad thing for British workers.

Piss weak.


Any price?

Now you see why many of us who champion the poor and disadvantaged take a different view.
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Re: So much for Strong and Stable

Postby Viper » Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:06 pm

rollup wrote:
Guest wrote:
Si_Crewe wrote:Remember, folks: Hard Brexit can't happen as long as Kommisar Jeremy refuses to accept it.

There's nothing to worry about.
If the EU offers us a shit deal then Jeremy will just refuse to endorse it and that will solve everything. :twirl:


What are you twattering on about?
JC isn't in the negotiating team.
Where do you get your info from?
Don't you think staying in the EU will save us from WTO 18% tariffs etc?

Ignore Crewe.
He'll tell you he's been a Labour voter all his life while endlessly slagging off Corbyn and anyone else who leans to the left.
He's a Blairite style Tory simple as.


Oh dear. How very intolerant. I thought labour was 'a broad church'? So are you saying actually labour is now just hard left?
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Re: So much for Strong and Stable

Postby Viper » Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:07 pm

McAz wrote:
Si_Crewe wrote:
Guest wrote:What are you twattering on about?
JC isn't in the negotiating team.
Where do you get your info from?
Don't you think staying in the EU will save us from WTO 18% tariffs etc?


What a fine ideologue you are.

"WTO tarifs etc"?
Don't give a flying fuck about them, TBH.
More interested in putting an end to foreign interference in British affairs.
Any price which might have to be paid for that is acceptable.

It's bizarre that so many people who paint themselves as left-wing are now in favour of the EU, considering the Labour party has spent the last 40 years saying the common market and, subsequently, the EU is a bad thing for British workers.

Piss weak.


Any price?

Now you see why many of us who champion the poor and disarranged take a different view.


...unless they have mental health issues..then you hate them.
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Re: So much for Strong and Stable

Postby McAz » Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:10 pm

Viper wrote:
McAz wrote:
Si_Crewe wrote:
Guest wrote:What are you twattering on about?
JC isn't in the negotiating team.
Where do you get your info from?
Don't you think staying in the EU will save us from WTO 18% tariffs etc?


What a fine ideologue you are.

"WTO tarifs etc"?
Don't give a flying fuck about them, TBH.
More interested in putting an end to foreign interference in British affairs.
Any price which might have to be paid for that is acceptable.

It's bizarre that so many people who paint themselves as left-wing are now in favour of the EU, considering the Labour party has spent the last 40 years saying the common market and, subsequently, the EU is a bad thing for British workers.

Piss weak.


Any price?

Now you see why many of us who champion the poor and disadvantaged take a different view.


...unless they have mental health issues..then you hate them.


Have I not shown you enough affection? :dunno:
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Re: So much for Strong and Stable

Postby rollup » Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:22 pm

Viper wrote:
rollup wrote:
Guest wrote:
Si_Crewe wrote:Remember, folks: Hard Brexit can't happen as long as Kommisar Jeremy refuses to accept it.

There's nothing to worry about.
If the EU offers us a shit deal then Jeremy will just refuse to endorse it and that will solve everything. :twirl:


What are you twattering on about?
JC isn't in the negotiating team.
Where do you get your info from?
Don't you think staying in the EU will save us from WTO 18% tariffs etc?

Ignore Crewe.
He'll tell you he's been a Labour voter all his life while endlessly slagging off Corbyn and anyone else who leans to the left.
He's a Blairite style Tory simple as.


Oh dear. How very intolerant. I thought labour was 'a broad church'? So are you saying actually labour is now just hard left?

Did I say hard left?
Labour is supposed to be a left wing party unlike New Labour that was centre right .... most of the time and centre the rest of it.
The centre ground is dead ground.
People actually want choice .... real choice.
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Re: So much for Strong and Stable

Postby Si_Crewe » Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:23 pm

McAz wrote:Any price?

Now you see why many of us who champion the poor and disadvantaged take a different view.


Yep, any price.

Appeasement has never been something I approve of.

This whole "We should stay in the EU cos leaving might cause hardship" mentality strikes me as very similar to the mindset of an abuse victim who keeps telling themselves that they aren't being treated that badly and staying in an abusive relationship is probably better than being on their own.
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