More than half of Brits are now godless.

Re: More than half of Brits are now godless.

Postby Trapper John » Thu Sep 14, 2017 5:44 pm

Religion is and always was just a tool of slightly more intelligent and world savvy individuals, used to control the masses of pig ignorant humanity.

Take Moses and the ten commandments for example. Moses was full of smarts, by some considerable margin the brightest of all the hebrews he led out of Egypt. He would have been well aware that this mass of humanity, freed from hundreds of years of slavery needed to be controlled in some way. Conflict and strife would have been a daily occurance during the Exodus and it would only get worse the longer it went on, not to mention once it arrived in the promised land.

Knowing that the draconian methods used by the Egyptians to maintain law and order wouldn't work and even less inclined to use them to enforce his will on the hebrew horde, lest they accused him of being as bad or worse than the tyrant they had fled, he devised the whole 'ten commandment' scenario.

Moses was world wise, in Pharoah's court he would have looked upon the pagan religion of Egypt with derision as he most likely did all religion. Yet he would have seen just how powerful a tool it could be in controlling masses of people.

Many of the commandments supposedly handed down to him by god were not new, they had been part of the law and codes of older civilisations like those of Mesopotamia for centuries, Moses Egyptian education would have taught him that.

Like the great politician he was, he filched these and added some personal preferences then conducted the pantomime we know of today, thus was born one of the great world religions.
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Re: More than half of Brits are now godless.

Postby Guest » Thu Sep 14, 2017 5:48 pm

Trapper John wrote:Religion is and always was just a tool of slightly more intelligent and world savvy individuals, used to control the masses of pig ignorant humanity.

Take Moses and the ten commandments for example. Moses was full of smarts, by some considerable margin the brightest of all the hebrews he led out of Egypt. He would have been well aware that this mass of humanity, freed from hundreds of years of slavery needed to be controlled in some way. Conflict and strife would have been a daily occurance during the Exodus and it would only get worse the longer it went on, not to mention once it arrived in the promised land.

Knowing that the draconian methods used by the Egyptians to maintain law and order wouldn't work and even less inclined to use them to enforce his will on the hebrew horde, lest they accused him of being as bad or worse than the tyrant they had fled, he devised the whole 'ten commandment' scenario.

Moses was world wise, in Pharoah's court he would have looked upon the pagan religion of Egypt with derision as he most likely did all religion. Yet he would have seen just how powerful a tool it could be in controlling masses of people.

Many of the commandments supposedly handed down to him by god were not new, they had been part of the law and codes of older civilisations like those of Mesopotamia for centuries, Moses Egyptian education would have taught him that.

Like the great politician he was, he filched these and added some personal preferences then conducted the pantomime we know of today, thus was born one of the great world religions.


Did he?
Did you read the reports on your tablet?
I knew you are getting on but didn't know you were around when Moses was alive.
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Re: More than half of Brits are now godless.

Postby Keyser » Thu Sep 14, 2017 5:57 pm

Trapper John wrote:Religion is and always was just a tool of slightly more intelligent and world savvy individuals, used to control the masses of pig ignorant humanity.

Take Moses and the ten commandments for example. Moses was full of smarts, by some considerable margin the brightest of all the hebrews he led out of Egypt. He would have been well aware that this mass of humanity, freed from hundreds of years of slavery needed to be controlled in some way. Conflict and strife would have been a daily occurance during the Exodus and it would only get worse the longer it went on, not to mention once it arrived in the promised land.

Knowing that the draconian methods used by the Egyptians to maintain law and order wouldn't work and even less inclined to use them to enforce his will on the hebrew horde, lest they accused him of being as bad or worse than the tyrant they had fled, he devised the whole 'ten commandment' scenario.

Moses was world wise, in Pharoah's court he would have looked upon the pagan religion of Egypt with derision as he most likely did all religion. Yet he would have seen just how powerful a tool it could be in controlling masses of people.

Many of the commandments supposedly handed down to him by god were not new, they had been part of the law and codes of older civilisations like those of Mesopotamia for centuries, Moses Egyptian education would have taught him that.

Like the great politician he was, he filched these and added some personal preferences then conducted the pantomime we know of today, thus was born one of the great world religions.


There are far more in depth articles but I don't have time atm so I will just post this link - Moses never existed and Exodus never happened.

For a start Egyptologists would have noticed. :thumbsup:

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Evidence_for_the_Exodus
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Re: More than half of Brits are now godless.

Postby Keyser » Thu Sep 14, 2017 5:58 pm

Guest wrote:
Trapper John wrote:Religion is and always was just a tool of slightly more intelligent and world savvy individuals, used to control the masses of pig ignorant humanity.

Take Moses and the ten commandments for example. Moses was full of smarts, by some considerable margin the brightest of all the hebrews he led out of Egypt. He would have been well aware that this mass of humanity, freed from hundreds of years of slavery needed to be controlled in some way. Conflict and strife would have been a daily occurance during the Exodus and it would only get worse the longer it went on, not to mention once it arrived in the promised land.

Knowing that the draconian methods used by the Egyptians to maintain law and order wouldn't work and even less inclined to use them to enforce his will on the hebrew horde, lest they accused him of being as bad or worse than the tyrant they had fled, he devised the whole 'ten commandment' scenario.

Moses was world wise, in Pharoah's court he would have looked upon the pagan religion of Egypt with derision as he most likely did all religion. Yet he would have seen just how powerful a tool it could be in controlling masses of people.

Many of the commandments supposedly handed down to him by god were not new, they had been part of the law and codes of older civilisations like those of Mesopotamia for centuries, Moses Egyptian education would have taught him that.

Like the great politician he was, he filched these and added some personal preferences then conducted the pantomime we know of today, thus was born one of the great world religions.


Did he?
Did you read the reports on your tablet?
I knew you are getting on but didn't know you were around when Moses was alive.


Moses was never alive.
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Re: More than half of Brits are now godless.

Postby Euripides » Thu Sep 14, 2017 6:18 pm

Keyser wrote:
Guest wrote:
Trapper John wrote:Religion is and always was just a tool of slightly more intelligent and world savvy individuals, used to control the masses of pig ignorant humanity.

Take Moses and the ten commandments for example. Moses was full of smarts, by some considerable margin the brightest of all the hebrews he led out of Egypt. He would have been well aware that this mass of humanity, freed from hundreds of years of slavery needed to be controlled in some way. Conflict and strife would have been a daily occurance during the Exodus and it would only get worse the longer it went on, not to mention once it arrived in the promised land.

Knowing that the draconian methods used by the Egyptians to maintain law and order wouldn't work and even less inclined to use them to enforce his will on the hebrew horde, lest they accused him of being as bad or worse than the tyrant they had fled, he devised the whole 'ten commandment' scenario.

Moses was world wise, in Pharoah's court he would have looked upon the pagan religion of Egypt with derision as he most likely did all religion. Yet he would have seen just how powerful a tool it could be in controlling masses of people.

Many of the commandments supposedly handed down to him by god were not new, they had been part of the law and codes of older civilisations like those of Mesopotamia for centuries, Moses Egyptian education would have taught him that.

Like the great politician he was, he filched these and added some personal preferences then conducted the pantomime we know of today, thus was born one of the great world religions.


Did he?
Did you read the reports on your tablet?
I knew you are getting on but didn't know you were around when Moses was alive.


Moses was never alive.


Shut up.
He was fucking brillant for Chelsea last season.
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Re: More than half of Brits are now godless.

Postby Keyser » Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:08 pm

Euripides wrote:
Keyser wrote:
Guest wrote:
Trapper John wrote:Religion is and always was just a tool of slightly more intelligent and world savvy individuals, used to control the masses of pig ignorant humanity.

Take Moses and the ten commandments for example. Moses was full of smarts, by some considerable margin the brightest of all the hebrews he led out of Egypt. He would have been well aware that this mass of humanity, freed from hundreds of years of slavery needed to be controlled in some way. Conflict and strife would have been a daily occurance during the Exodus and it would only get worse the longer it went on, not to mention once it arrived in the promised land.

Knowing that the draconian methods used by the Egyptians to maintain law and order wouldn't work and even less inclined to use them to enforce his will on the hebrew horde, lest they accused him of being as bad or worse than the tyrant they had fled, he devised the whole 'ten commandment' scenario.

Moses was world wise, in Pharoah's court he would have looked upon the pagan religion of Egypt with derision as he most likely did all religion. Yet he would have seen just how powerful a tool it could be in controlling masses of people.

Many of the commandments supposedly handed down to him by god were not new, they had been part of the law and codes of older civilisations like those of Mesopotamia for centuries, Moses Egyptian education would have taught him that.

Like the great politician he was, he filched these and added some personal preferences then conducted the pantomime we know of today, thus was born one of the great world religions.


Did he?
Did you read the reports on your tablet?
I knew you are getting on but didn't know you were around when Moses was alive.


Moses was never alive.


Shut up.
He was fucking brillant for Chelsea last season.


Fair point - well made! :mrgreen:
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Re: More than half of Brits are now godless.

Postby Major » Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:20 pm

On our island more and more mosques are in use, 1000s of them
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Re: More than half of Brits are now godless.

Postby McAz » Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:52 pm

Only one in my area - and this is it...

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...we don't do god much round here. :cuppaT:
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Re: More than half of Brits are now godless.

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:32 pm

Mosque in Llandudno.
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Re: More than half of Brits are now godless.

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:33 pm

Mosque in Rhyl
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Re: More than half of Brits are now godless.

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:34 pm

Seems to me one God moves out another moves in.
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Re: More than half of Brits are now godless.

Postby McAz » Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:36 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:Mosque in Llandudno.

Looks like a disused church - ours are mostly discount carpet warehouses - the money god will be the last one standing.
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Re: More than half of Brits are now godless.

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:37 pm

Then we have the Major complaining this is a Christian country!
Well if that's what he thinks then it's him and people like him to blame for the Muslims taking over the churches and chapels because they stopped using them.
The Major stopped being a Christian if he ever was one and therefore allowed somonelses God to move in.
So Major best to shut up I think.
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Re: More than half of Brits are now godless.

Postby Guest » Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:39 pm

Major Starbold wrote:On our island more and more mosques are in use, 1000s of them


Our Area Mosque was built in 1883 !

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Re: More than half of Brits are now godless.

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:45 pm

Guest wrote:
Major Starbold wrote:On our island more and more mosques are in use, 1000s of them


Our Area Mosque was built in 1883 !

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But not as a Mosque?
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