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Re: Jon Venables.

Postby Stooo » Tue Dec 05, 2017 6:09 pm

guest wrote:Interested in views regarding the anonymity rights of these murderers. In light of Venables' recent violation do you think he should still have the right of anonymity?

Personally I feel he should have lost that blanket the moment his arse was hauled back into jail in 2010.


I think that they both should have been kept anonymous from the start, seriously, what was the point in naming them?
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Re: Jon Venables.

Postby Raggamuffin » Tue Dec 05, 2017 6:15 pm

Stooo wrote:
guest wrote:Interested in views regarding the anonymity rights of these murderers. In light of Venables' recent violation do you think he should still have the right of anonymity?

Personally I feel he should have lost that blanket the moment his arse was hauled back into jail in 2010.


I think that they both should have been kept anonymous from the start, seriously, what was the point in naming them?


I agree. I don't know why the judge named them, but a fortune has been spent on protecting them.
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Re: Jon Venables.

Postby Stooo » Tue Dec 05, 2017 7:08 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Stooo wrote:
guest wrote:Interested in views regarding the anonymity rights of these murderers. In light of Venables' recent violation do you think he should still have the right of anonymity?

Personally I feel he should have lost that blanket the moment his arse was hauled back into jail in 2010.


I think that they both should have been kept anonymous from the start, seriously, what was the point in naming them?


I agree. I don't know why the judge named them, but a fortune has been spent on protecting them.


Because of exactly that.
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Re: Jon Venables.

Postby Guest » Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:57 pm

Stooo wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:
Stooo wrote:
guest wrote:Interested in views regarding the anonymity rights of these murderers. In light of Venables' recent violation do you think he should still have the right of anonymity?

Personally I feel he should have lost that blanket the moment his arse was hauled back into jail in 2010.


I think that they both should have been kept anonymous from the start, seriously, what was the point in naming them?


I agree. I don't know why the judge named them, but a fortune has been spent on protecting them.


Because of exactly that.


Didn't he get into trouble for doing that with the judges' professional governance body? (or whatever it's called in England. I'm sure I read something about it in the papers.
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Re: Jon Venables.

Postby Vicks » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:15 am

Jon Venables has been rumbled inside prison and a price has been put on his head.

No doubt someone would love to make a name for themselves by killing or seriously injuring the baby murdering, sex beast.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5149857/James-Bulger-murderer-price-head-prison.html
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Re: Jon Venables.

Postby Viper » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:28 am

Vicky wrote:Jon Venables has been rumbled inside prison and a price has been put on his head.

No doubt someone would love to make a name for themselves by killing or seriously injuring the baby murdering, sex beast.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5149857/James-Bulger-murderer-price-head-prison.html


Probably best end to this sorry tale and failed liberal experiment.
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Re: Jon Venables.

Postby Lady Murasaki » Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:22 am

Viper wrote:
Vicky wrote:Jon Venables has been rumbled inside prison and a price has been put on his head.

No doubt someone would love to make a name for themselves by killing or seriously injuring the baby murdering, sex beast.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5149857/James-Bulger-murderer-price-head-prison.html


Probably best end to this sorry tale and failed liberal experiment.


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Re: Jon Venables.

Postby Raggamuffin » Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:37 pm

Vicks wrote:Jon Venables has been rumbled inside prison and a price has been put on his head.

No doubt someone would love to make a name for themselves by killing or seriously injuring the baby murdering, sex beast.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5149857/James-Bulger-murderer-price-head-prison.html


Unless they're already in there for their whole life, they can look forward to another life sentence for murder then. Mrs Fergus wasn't the last to know, but why she be told anything anyway?
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Re: Jon Venables.

Postby Major Starbold » Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:45 pm

They committed this heinous crime as children, I cannot understand how such evil can get into their minds being so young.
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Re: Jon Venables.

Postby Raggamuffin » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:05 pm

Major Starbold wrote:They committed this heinous crime as children, I cannot understand how such evil can get into their minds being so young.


I don't think anyone can understand it Major. They probably don't understand it themselves. It's my opinion that Jon Venables is re-living what he did over and over again, and that's why he's interested in child abuse - ie, porn. I don't think he has come to terms with what he did at all.
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Re: Jon Venables.

Postby Major Starbold » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:24 pm

Raggamuffin wrote:
Major Starbold wrote:They committed this heinous crime as children, I cannot understand how such evil can get into their minds being so young.


I don't think anyone can understand it Major. They probably don't understand it themselves. It's my opinion that Jon Venables is re-living what he did over and over again, and that's why he's interested in child abuse - ie, porn. I don't think he has come to terms with what he did at all.


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I want future innocent humans, particularly children to be protected from those such as he but I cannot trust him especially him being interested in child abuse,


I do not believe he will/can ever change, some appear to punish themselves in their own way..

I dunno really.
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Re: Jon Venables.

Postby Raggamuffin » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:28 pm

Major Starbold wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:
Major Starbold wrote:They committed this heinous crime as children, I cannot understand how such evil can get into their minds being so young.


I don't think anyone can understand it Major. They probably don't understand it themselves. It's my opinion that Jon Venables is re-living what he did over and over again, and that's why he's interested in child abuse - ie, porn. I don't think he has come to terms with what he did at all.


Yes Miss Ragga.
I want future innocent humans, particularly children to be protected from those such as he but I cannot trust him especially him being interested in child abuse,


I do not believe he will/can ever change, some appear to punish themselves in their own way..

I dunno really.


I hope they've gone after the people who actually put the porn stuff online in the first place, or those who actually abuse children. We never seem to hear much about that, we only hear about the people who are caught downloading it.

I don't see how he could have a normal life anyway. He had to try to erase the first ten years of his life and pretend to be someone he wasn't. He's afraid of being identified, and yet he clearly finds it difficult to maintain the lie which he's forced to tell about his identity. I think they were let out too early - they were barely adults. Perhaps if he'd gone to an adult prison he might feel he'd been punished properly.
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Re: Jon Venables.

Postby Raggamuffin » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:31 pm

Guest wrote:
Stooo wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:
Stooo wrote:
guest wrote:Interested in views regarding the anonymity rights of these murderers. In light of Venables' recent violation do you think he should still have the right of anonymity?

Personally I feel he should have lost that blanket the moment his arse was hauled back into jail in 2010.


I think that they both should have been kept anonymous from the start, seriously, what was the point in naming them?


I agree. I don't know why the judge named them, but a fortune has been spent on protecting them.


Because of exactly that.


Didn't he get into trouble for doing that with the judges' professional governance body? (or whatever it's called in England. I'm sure I read something about it in the papers.


I can't find anything about that tbh. I think it was a mistake, but I guess he was entitled to lift reporting restrictions. That only applied to their identity though didn't it? I don't think anyone was allowed to say where they were or whatever. He said he allowed them to be named in the public interest, but I really don't see what good it did, or why the general public needed to know who they were.
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Re: Jon Venables.

Postby guest » Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:26 pm

Major Starbold wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:
Major Starbold wrote:They committed this heinous crime as children, I cannot understand how such evil can get into their minds being so young.


I don't think anyone can understand it Major. They probably don't understand it themselves. It's my opinion that Jon Venables is re-living what he did over and over again, and that's why he's interested in child abuse - ie, porn. I don't think he has come to terms with what he did at all.


Yes Miss Ragga.
I want future innocent humans, particularly children to be protected from those such as he but I cannot trust him especially him being interested in child abuse,


I do not believe he will/can ever change, some appear to punish themselves in their own way..

I dunno really.


If his use of child porn is his way of punishing himself then perhaps he's best left behind bars indefinitely. Rehabilitation hasn't worked as the threat of being caught and returned to jail is obviously no deterrent.
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Re: Jon Venables.

Postby Raggamuffin » Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:33 pm

guest wrote:
Major Starbold wrote:
Raggamuffin wrote:
Major Starbold wrote:They committed this heinous crime as children, I cannot understand how such evil can get into their minds being so young.


I don't think anyone can understand it Major. They probably don't understand it themselves. It's my opinion that Jon Venables is re-living what he did over and over again, and that's why he's interested in child abuse - ie, porn. I don't think he has come to terms with what he did at all.


Yes Miss Ragga.
I want future innocent humans, particularly children to be protected from those such as he but I cannot trust him especially him being interested in child abuse,


I do not believe he will/can ever change, some appear to punish themselves in their own way..

I dunno really.


If his use of child porn is his way of punishing himself then perhaps he's best left behind bars indefinitely. Rehabilitation hasn't worked as the threat of being caught and returned to jail is obviously no deterrent.


Do you agree that he might be punishing himself then guest? I've wondered if he looks at this stuff to convince himself that there are others out there which have done things as bad as he's done. I'm not sure how you rehabilitate someone who killed a little kid in such a manner anyway. He hasn't done it again, which I suppose means he's "rehabilitated" to an extent, but I'm never quite sure what it means anyway. If Hindley had been let out of jail, I don't suppose she would have killed another kid, but that didn't matter did it?
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