Katie Rough Murder.

[Vicky]

The fifteen year old girl who murdered seven year old Katie Rough at the beginning of the year, has been jailed for life.

Well to be precise, she's been jailed for a minimum of five years.

So that's what the courts have decided is an adequate punishment for slashing this week girls neck with a Stanley Knife.

Of course the girl who is now sixteen, can't be identified for legal reasons.

However most people know who she is, which makes it even worse, because Katie would have trusted her.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-42112979

[Cannydc]

Seems to be a particular habit on forums, failing to accurately record sentences and then claiming that they are unduly lenient.

A life sentence can be just that, and by setting a minimum term the judge ensures that she will not even be able to apply for probation for 5 years, never mind get it approved.

The reality is that she is likely to remain inside for a lot longer. Probation is never given lightly in these circumstances.

[Vicky]

Seems to be a particular habit on forums, failing to accurately record sentences and then claiming that they are unduly lenient.

A life sentence can be just that, and by setting a minimum term the judge ensures that she will not even be able to apply for probation for 5 years, never mind get it approved.

The reality is that she is likely to remain inside for a lot longer. Probation is never given lightly in these circumstances.

Thank God for you Canny, keeping all us morons right.

I am aware of how things work.

Thank you.

[jp761]

Seems to be a particular habit on forums, failing to accurately record sentences and then claiming that they are unduly lenient.

A life sentence can be just that, and by setting a minimum term the judge ensures that she will not even be able to apply for probation for 5 years, never mind get it approved.

The reality is that she is likely to remain inside for a lot longer. Probation is never given lightly in these circumstances.

Thank God for you Canny, keeping all us morons right.

I am aware of how things work.

Thank you.

Yeah I read that and thought.. YOU DON'T SAY!

[Vicky]

Seems to be a particular habit on forums, failing to accurately record sentences and then claiming that they are unduly lenient.

A life sentence can be just that, and by setting a minimum term the judge ensures that she will not even be able to apply for probation for 5 years, never mind get it approved.

The reality is that she is likely to remain inside for a lot longer. Probation is never given lightly in these circumstances.

Thank God for you Canny, keeping all us morons right.

I am aware of how things work.

Thank you.

Yeah I read that and thought.. YOU DON'T SAY!

I don't like being treated as if i'm a doughball.

[wutang]

A life sentence can be just that, and by setting a minimum term the judge ensures that she will not even be able to apply for probation for 5 years, never mind get it approved.

Yeah Charles Manson was able to apply for parole just 7 years into his sentence (and that was for 9 murders) He still ended up doing 46 years.

[Guest]

Why set the minimal so low, it means that in five years for now Katie's parents will have to go through it all again and then put forward their reasons why she should remain inside

[wutang]

Why set the minimal so low, it means that in five years for now Katie's parents will have to go through it all again and then put forward their reasons why she should remain inside

Maybe because she was convicted of manslaughter by diminished responsibility not murder

[wutang]

The bigger question is why wasn't this girl getting treatment?

The court heard a full psychiatric assessment had been requested for the teenager, and the possibility of psychosis was flagged a month before the killing yet no investigation was carried out. A friend told investigators the teenager self-harmed and liked to talk about death, and that she had said she dreamed of killing someone and heard voices in her head.

Two days before she killed Katie, she had posted a picture to Instagram of self-harm wounds to her arms made with pencil sharpener blades captioned: “Mentally, seriously, not OK”. She was “clearly crying out for help and support”, the teenager’s defence barrister, Nicholas Johnson QC, said at the time.

He said his client had been telling people of “delusional and bizarre thoughts” for many months before the killing, including the “genuine belief in her head that her family and many others were not human and may be controlled by a higher and hostile force”.

The lack of treatment facilities availabe due to underfunding of mental health care in this country is a fucking scandal

[Cannydc]

Why set the minimal so low, it means that in five years for now Katie's parents will have to go through it all again and then put forward their reasons why she should remain inside

Maybe because she was convicted of manslaughter by diminished responsibility not murder

Maybe.

Perhaps the OP missed that small detail too.

[Guest]

Why set the minimal so low, it means that in five years for now Katie's parents will have to go through it all again and then put forward their reasons why she should remain inside

Maybe because she was convicted of manslaughter by diminished responsibility not murder

Nobody will label a child a psychopath but going by your post above this girl certainly has ASPD

[Bella]

The bigger question is why wasn't this girl getting treatment?

The court heard a full psychiatric assessment had been requested for the teenager, and the possibility of psychosis was flagged a month before the killing yet no investigation was carried out. A friend told investigators the teenager self-harmed and liked to talk about death, and that she had said she dreamed of killing someone and heard voices in her head.

Two days before she killed Katie, she had posted a picture to Instagram of self-harm wounds to her arms made with pencil sharpener blades captioned: “Mentally, seriously, not OK”. She was “clearly crying out for help and support”, the teenager’s defence barrister, Nicholas Johnson QC, said at the time.

He said his client had been telling people of “delusional and bizarre thoughts” for many months before the killing, including the “genuine belief in her head that her family and many others were not human and may be controlled by a higher and hostile force”.

The lack of treatment facilities availabe due to underfunding of mental health care in this country is a fucking scandal

Yes, poor family losing losing two girls in dreadful circumstances.

[Bella]

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The fifteen year old girl who murdered seven year old Katie Rough at the beginning of the year, has been jailed for life.

Well to be precise, she's been jailed for a minimum of five years.

So that's what the courts have decided is an adequate punishment for slashing this week girls neck with a Stanley Knife.

Of course the girl who is now sixteen, can't be identified for legal reasons.

However most people know who she is, which makes it even worse, because Katie would have trusted her.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-42112979

The girl who murdered her is mentally ill and psychotic, yes we know who she .

[Vicky]

The fifteen year old girl who murdered seven year old Katie Rough at the beginning of the year, has been jailed for life.

Well to be precise, she's been jailed for a minimum of five years.

So that's what the courts have decided is an adequate punishment for slashing this week girls neck with a Stanley Knife.

Of course the girl who is now sixteen, can't be identified for legal reasons.

However most people know who she is, which makes it even worse, because Katie would have trusted her.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-42112979

The girl who murdered her is mentally ill and psychotic, yes we know who she .

I already know that, so patronise someone else.

Oh i suggest you say "I" not "We" you ain't the Queen.

[Puzzler]

Seems to be a particular habit on forums, failing to accurately record sentences and then claiming that they are unduly lenient.

A life sentence can be just that, and by setting a minimum term the judge ensures that she will not even be able to apply for probation for 5 years, never mind get it approved.

The reality is that she is likely to remain inside for a lot longer. Probation is never given lightly in these circumstances.

Cunt. 5 years minimum for slaughtering a little girl and you think that’s appropriate in any universe? It should have been fucking 50 whether she spends it in prison or fucking broadmoor.