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Re: Race hate attack in West Yorkshire

Postby Fletch » Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:23 pm

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Fletch wrote:I did't ask that did I? The question in the post you replied to was: What evidence do you have that it was a racist attack? Changing the question indicates an unwillingness to answer.


I don't have any evidence she was attacked by anyone, regardless of race.

Why are you asking such dumb fuck questions? I'm just a bloke on an internet forum, not part of Yorkshire CID. What sort of evidence do you think I might have?

At this stage, we can only discuss the story as seen, and as it stands, she claims to have been beaten up by three Asians. That is all we have to go on. For some reason, you seem convinced she's making it up. Tell us why you think she's making it up.

Is it a hunch, or is it because the alleged attackers are Asian? You must have reasons for being so dismissive of her comments, what are they?


I didn't say she was making it up. I offered an alternative explanation based on what's known/reported, one which didn't include it being a racist attack whereas you...

Red Okktober wrote: Yet some poor woman with half her head caved in, because she's white and her alleged attackers Asian,


I wondered what grounds you had to make that claim? It seems from what you've said now that it was simply another of your knee jerk reactions based on your own prejudices.
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Re: Race hate attack in West Yorkshire

Postby Viper » Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:27 pm

Fletch wrote:
Red Okktober wrote:
Fletch wrote:I did't ask that did I? The question in the post you replied to was: What evidence do you have that it was a racist attack? Changing the question indicates an unwillingness to answer.


I don't have any evidence she was attacked by anyone, regardless of race.

Why are you asking such dumb fuck questions? I'm just a bloke on an internet forum, not part of Yorkshire CID. What sort of evidence do you think I might have?

At this stage, we can only discuss the story as seen, and as it stands, she claims to have been beaten up by three Asians. That is all we have to go on. For some reason, you seem convinced she's making it up. Tell us why you think she's making it up.

Is it a hunch, or is it because the alleged attackers are Asian? You must have reasons for being so dismissive of her comments, what are they?


I didn't say she was making it up. I offered an alternative explanation based on what's known/reported, one which didn't include it being a racist attack whereas you...

Red Okktober wrote: Yet some poor woman with half her head caved in, because she's white and her alleged attackers Asian,


I wondered what grounds you had to make that claim? It seems from what you've said now that it was simply another of your knee jerk reactions based on your own prejudices.


Fletch. Glad you agree. Damian green accusations obviously unfounded also. Il keep a keen eye to ensure your consistency of approach to other subjects :thumbsup:
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Re: Race hate attack in West Yorkshire

Postby Red Okktober » Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:35 pm

Fletch wrote:
Red Okktober wrote:
Fletch wrote:I did't ask that did I? The question in the post you replied to was: What evidence do you have that it was a racist attack? Changing the question indicates an unwillingness to answer.


I don't have any evidence she was attacked by anyone, regardless of race.

Why are you asking such dumb fuck questions? I'm just a bloke on an internet forum, not part of Yorkshire CID. What sort of evidence do you think I might have?

At this stage, we can only discuss the story as seen, and as it stands, she claims to have been beaten up by three Asians. That is all we have to go on. For some reason, you seem convinced she's making it up. Tell us why you think she's making it up.

Is it a hunch, or is it because the alleged attackers are Asian? You must have reasons for being so dismissive of her comments, what are they?


I didn't say she was making it up. I offered an alternative explanation based on what's known/reported, one which didn't include it being a racist attack whereas you...

Red Okktober wrote: Yet some poor woman with half her head caved in, because she's white and her alleged attackers Asian,


I wondered what grounds you had to make that claim? It seems from what you've said now that it was simply another of your knee jerk reactions based on your own prejudices.


So you don't think she's making it up? Or do you? Only it sounds like you do to me.

Do you offer up 'alternative explanations' to all alleged racist attacks, or just this one?

You "wondered what grounds I had to make that claim (that it was an alleged racist attack)" How about this from the report:

"Police described the attack, which began when the trio approached Ms Hurst and launched verbal abuse before pushing and kicking her, as 'racially aggravated'"

That'll be the same report you relied on earlier to tell us the woman had 'fallen down'
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Re: Race hate attack in West Yorkshire

Postby Fletch » Fri Dec 01, 2017 11:03 pm

Red Okktober wrote:
Fletch wrote:
Red Okktober wrote:
Fletch wrote:I did't ask that did I? The question in the post you replied to was: What evidence do you have that it was a racist attack? Changing the question indicates an unwillingness to answer.


I don't have any evidence she was attacked by anyone, regardless of race.

Why are you asking such dumb fuck questions? I'm just a bloke on an internet forum, not part of Yorkshire CID. What sort of evidence do you think I might have?

At this stage, we can only discuss the story as seen, and as it stands, she claims to have been beaten up by three Asians. That is all we have to go on. For some reason, you seem convinced she's making it up. Tell us why you think she's making it up.

Is it a hunch, or is it because the alleged attackers are Asian? You must have reasons for being so dismissive of her comments, what are they?


I didn't say she was making it up. I offered an alternative explanation based on what's known/reported, one which didn't include it being a racist attack whereas you...

Red Okktober wrote: Yet some poor woman with half her head caved in, because she's white and her alleged attackers Asian,


I wondered what grounds you had to make that claim? It seems from what you've said now that it was simply another of your knee jerk reactions based on your own prejudices.


So you don't think she's making it up? Or do you? Only it sounds like you do to me.

Do you offer up 'alternative explanations' to all alleged racist attacks, or just this one?

You "wondered what grounds I had to make that claim (that it was an alleged racist attack)" How about this from the report:

"Police described the attack, which began when the trio approached Ms Hurst and launched verbal abuse before pushing and kicking her, as 'racially aggravated'"

That'll be the same report you relied on earlier to tell us the woman had 'fallen down'


Nikki Hurst was left with serious facial injuries and a head wound after she was pushed and kicked in what police are treating as a "racially aggravated" assault.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5029519/r ... yorkshire/

We don't know what makes them think this unless you're one of those who believe any altercation between different race/colour people is automatically a racist attack? There's certainly not enough in the reports to warrant you saying:


Red Okktober wrote: Yet some poor woman with half her head caved in, because she's white and her alleged attackers Asian,


I'm happy to wait and see the outcome but after this long with no leads, no arrests and no further information, one wonders if the 'racist gang' just gave up being racist in the area and nobody knew them anyway? :dunno:
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Re: Race hate attack in West Yorkshire

Postby Red Okktober » Fri Dec 01, 2017 11:33 pm

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Nikki Hurst was left with serious facial injuries and a head wound after she was pushed and kicked in what police are treating as a "racially aggravated" assault.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5029519/r ... yorkshire/

We don't know what makes them think this unless you're one of those who believe any altercation between different race/colour people is automatically a racist attack? There's certainly not enough in the reports to warrant you saying:




You don't know what makes the police think it's a racially aggravated attack, unless I'm 'one of those who believe any altercation between different race/colour people is automatically a racist attack?'

How many times to I have to tell you I'm not part of Yorkshire CID?

What kind of halfwit are you exactly?
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Re: Race hate attack in West Yorkshire

Postby Markey mark » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:32 pm

Typically the same crew will lie and denie the truth . Always making excuses, what has this woman have to gain in not telling the truth .nothing
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Re: Race hate attack in West Yorkshire

Postby Guest » Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:02 pm

Markey mark wrote:Typically the same crew will lie and denie the truth . Always making excuses, what has this woman have to gain in not telling the truth .nothing


What have you got to gain from constantly not telling the truth?
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Re: Race hate attack in West Yorkshire

Postby McAz » Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:09 pm

Markey mark wrote:Typically the same crew will lie and denie the truth . Always making excuses, what has this woman have to gain in not telling the truth .nothing

Nearly 6 weeks and not a shred of evidence, nothing, not even a flicker on CCTV - still, Tommy Robinson has made a few bob out of her suffering. :shake head:
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Re: Race hate attack in West Yorkshire

Postby Viper » Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:32 pm

McAz wrote:
Markey mark wrote:Typically the same crew will lie and denie the truth . Always making excuses, what has this woman have to gain in not telling the truth .nothing

Nearly 6 weeks and not a shred of evidence, nothing, not even a flicker on CCTV - still, Tommy Robinson has made a few bob out of her suffering. :shake head:


You seem convinced she is lying. Why is that?
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Re: Race hate attack in West Yorkshire

Postby McAz » Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:35 pm

Viper wrote:
McAz wrote:
Markey mark wrote:Typically the same crew will lie and denie the truth . Always making excuses, what has this woman have to gain in not telling the truth .nothing

Nearly 6 weeks and not a shred of evidence, nothing, not even a flicker on CCTV - still, Tommy Robinson has made a few bob out of her suffering. :shake head:


You seem convinced she is lying. Why is that?


I'm not convinced she's lying - nor am I convinced she's telling the truth.
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Re: Race hate attack in West Yorkshire

Postby Viper » Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:44 pm

McAz wrote:
Viper wrote:
McAz wrote:
Markey mark wrote:Typically the same crew will lie and denie the truth . Always making excuses, what has this woman have to gain in not telling the truth .nothing

Nearly 6 weeks and not a shred of evidence, nothing, not even a flicker on CCTV - still, Tommy Robinson has made a few bob out of her suffering. :shake head:


You seem convinced she is lying. Why is that?


I'm not convinced she's lying - nor am I convinced she's telling the truth.


You should re-consider your tone then. Your language betrays your intention.
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Re: Race hate attack in West Yorkshire

Postby McAz » Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:46 pm

Viper wrote:
McAz wrote:
Viper wrote:
McAz wrote:
Markey mark wrote:Typically the same crew will lie and denie the truth . Always making excuses, what has this woman have to gain in not telling the truth .nothing

Nearly 6 weeks and not a shred of evidence, nothing, not even a flicker on CCTV - still, Tommy Robinson has made a few bob out of her suffering. :shake head:


You seem convinced she is lying. Why is that?


I'm not convinced she's lying - nor am I convinced she's telling the truth.


You should re-consider your tone then. Your language betrays your intention.

I have no intention other than to expose Tommy Robinson and those of you who follow him as the charlatans you are - that's why I mentioned him. :thumbsup:
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Re: Race hate attack in West Yorkshire

Postby Viper » Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:54 pm

I have no intention other than to expose Tommy Robinson and those of you who follow him as the charlatans you are - that's why I mentioned him. :thumbsup:


Where have i stated i follow Robinson? Oh dear i fear you have failed at first hurdle.
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Re: Race hate attack in West Yorkshire

Postby McAz » Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:01 pm

Viper wrote:
I have no intention other than to expose Tommy Robinson and those of you who follow him as the charlatans you are - that's why I mentioned him. :thumbsup:


Where have i stated i follow Robinson? Oh dear i fear you have failed at first hurdle.

Glad to hear you don't support him - you've passed, well done? :thumbsup:
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