Tories admit Labour did NOT cause the Great Recession

Re: Tories admit Labour did NOT cause the Great Recession

Postby Viper » Sat Dec 16, 2017 10:23 am

wutang wrote:
Viper wrote:Not dissimilar to nazi germany. They concocted a bogeyman to project their endemic failings onto.


Inherent to nationalism.

Look at the present day - EU, Immigrants, Muslims, Asylum seekers, unemployed, etc

All the nations failings dumped onto them rather than facing up to reality :whistle:


I wont deny elements of what you say are correct. But you cannot deny i am correct also. It isnt zero sum.

Lefties and their propensity towards anti semitism is really setting in.
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Re: Tories admit Labour did NOT cause the Great Recession

Postby wutang » Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:44 am

Viper wrote:
wutang wrote:
Viper wrote:Not dissimilar to nazi germany. They concocted a bogeyman to project their endemic failings onto.


Inherent to nationalism.

Look at the present day - EU, Immigrants, Muslims, Asylum seekers, unemployed, etc

All the nations failings dumped onto them rather than facing up to reality :whistle:


I wont deny elements of what you say are correct. But you cannot deny i am correct also. It isnt zero sum.

Lefties and their propensity towards anti semitism is really setting in.



Antisemitism is so ingrained into western history that it pops up everywhere.

But whereas on the left it limited to fringe cranks, who sadly piggyback onto legitimate criticisms of Israel, on the right they are actually in power or influencing those in power.

Trump appointed antisemites like Gorka and Bannon to his white house staff. Neo-Nazi/KKK/Fascists like Duke and Spencer are emboldened and holding rallys and marches in the open. Attacks on Jewish cemeteries are on the rise.

People like Le Pen and the AFD in Germany, and most of the anti-eu parties across eastern europe are anti-semitic as fuck. Look at Ukraine at the mo, when they arent protesting at the EU they are celebrating people who rounded up Jews in the War.

Farage has a habit of hanging around with these types :yikes: :oops:
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Re: Tories admit Labour did NOT cause the Great Recession

Postby Viper » Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:46 pm

wutang wrote:
Viper wrote:
wutang wrote:
Viper wrote:Not dissimilar to nazi germany. They concocted a bogeyman to project their endemic failings onto.


Inherent to nationalism.

Look at the present day - EU, Immigrants, Muslims, Asylum seekers, unemployed, etc

All the nations failings dumped onto them rather than facing up to reality :whistle:


I wont deny elements of what you say are correct. But you cannot deny i am correct also. It isnt zero sum.

Lefties and their propensity towards anti semitism is really setting in.



Antisemitism is so ingrained into western history that it pops up everywhere.

But whereas on the left it limited to fringe cranks, who sadly piggyback onto legitimate criticisms of Israel, on the right they are actually in power or influencing those in power.

Trump appointed antisemites like Gorka and Bannon to his white house staff. Neo-Nazi/KKK/Fascists like Duke and Spencer are emboldened and holding rallys and marches in the open. Attacks on Jewish cemeteries are on the rise.

People like Le Pen and the AFD in Germany, and most of the anti-eu parties across eastern europe are anti-semitic as fuck. Look at Ukraine at the mo, when they arent protesting at the EU they are celebrating people who rounded up Jews in the War.

Farage has a habit of hanging around with these types :yikes: :oops:


Please cite anti semitic policies proposed by le pen so we can look closely at them.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc. ... e-38321401
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Re: Tories admit Labour did NOT cause the Great Recession

Postby Fletch » Sat Dec 16, 2017 1:12 pm

Protester with no legs is shot dead by Israeli troops along with two other Palestinians
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ldier.html

A genuine case of anti Semitism. One that's been going on for 70 odd years. Palestinians, real Semitic people being ruled over and massacred by the Khazars , Russians, Europeans and American people who were enticed there or felt they should go there. Not a drop of Semitic blood amongst them, just colonisers from other countries after the war.

I don't think you two know the real meaning of Semitic people. Religion is not Semitic. Jews are just those who follow the religion of Judaism. It's not a race nor hereditary, despite the daft claims of being so if the Mother was. It's propaganda.

Religion, all religion, is a self identifying choice, or more accurately, something indoctrinated on children from birth by fanatics. They all peddle their own versions of supremacy and try to convince others to join the cause. Criminal factions hide behind religion, it's sold to the public as being the religion, it's not. Hence you have those following the real religion demonstrating against the criminal elements within it. A fact some clearly avoid commenting on for it destroys their claims. That's the problem with propaganda, it gets found out eventually.
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Re: Tories admit Labour did NOT cause the Great Recession

Postby Viper » Sat Dec 16, 2017 1:15 pm

Fletch wrote:Protester with no legs is shot dead by Israeli troops along with two other Palestinians
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ldier.html

A genuine case of anti Semitism. One that's been going on for 70 odd years. Palestinians, real Semitic people being ruled over and massacred by the Khazars , Russians, Europeans and American people who were enticed there or felt they should go there. Not a drop of Semitic blood amongst them, just colonisers from other countries after the war.

I don't think you two know the real meaning of Semitic people. Religion is not Semitic. Jews are just those who follow the religion of Judaism. It's not a race nor hereditary, despite the daft claims of being so if the Mother was. It's propaganda.

Religion, all religion, is a self identifying choice, or more accurately, something indoctrinated on children from birth by fanatics. They all peddle their own versions of supremacy and try to convince others to join the cause. Criminal factions hide behind religion, it's sold to the public as being the religion, it's not. Hence you have those following the real religion demonstrating against the criminal elements within it. A fact some clearly avoid commenting on for it destroys their claims. That's the problem with propaganda, it gets found out eventually.


At least you show yourself. I wonder if the others will now break cover and reveal themselves. Canny mcaz rollup? Agree with Fletch?
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Re: Tories admit Labour did NOT cause the Great Recession

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Sat Dec 16, 2017 1:28 pm

wutang wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:Yes someone else pointed that out not to long ago.


And yet you still use it despite knowing the antisemitic subtext behind it

Rolluplostinspace wrote:You think he wasn't writing from experience?


I think he had internalised a lot of the overt antisemitism of the time (and which permeates this kind of conspiratorial thinking) which is sad when you consider that he was often on the recieving end of that same stuff.


Rolluplostinspace wrote:There is nothing you can do on this earth without money .... which the bankers create and control.


What is money?

Rolluplostinspace wrote:Where do you think this shyte came from then?


Predominately antisemitism. Although as the saying goes 'antisemitism is the socialism of fools', its easier to blame a boogeyman like 'the bankers' than accept that our entire socio-economic system from top to bottom is the problem.

It's aimed at secret societies same as Kennedy's famous speech.
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Re: Tories admit Labour did NOT cause the Great Recession

Postby McAz » Sat Dec 16, 2017 1:29 pm

Viper wrote:
Fletch wrote:Protester with no legs is shot dead by Israeli troops along with two other Palestinians
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ldier.html

A genuine case of anti Semitism. One that's been going on for 70 odd years. Palestinians, real Semitic people being ruled over and massacred by the Khazars , Russians, Europeans and American people who were enticed there or felt they should go there. Not a drop of Semitic blood amongst them, just colonisers from other countries after the war.

I don't think you two know the real meaning of Semitic people. Religion is not Semitic. Jews are just those who follow the religion of Judaism. It's not a race nor hereditary, despite the daft claims of being so if the Mother was. It's propaganda.

Religion, all religion, is a self identifying choice, or more accurately, something indoctrinated on children from birth by fanatics. They all peddle their own versions of supremacy and try to convince others to join the cause. Criminal factions hide behind religion, it's sold to the public as being the religion, it's not. Hence you have those following the real religion demonstrating against the criminal elements within it. A fact some clearly avoid commenting on for it destroys their claims. That's the problem with propaganda, it gets found out eventually.


At least you show yourself. I wonder if the others will now break cover and reveal themselves. Canny mcaz rollup? Agree with Fletch?


"Antisemitism (also spelled anti-Semitism or anti-semitism) is hostility to, prejudice, or discrimination against Jews. A person who holds such positions is called an antisemite. Antisemitism is generally considered to be a form of racism."

Afaik, Fletch, Rolly or Canny are neither racists or anti-Semites. No-one is calling to deny Jews citizenship or to ban their headwear - measures that you supported Viper.

Why did you do that BTW? :dunno:
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Re: Tories admit Labour did NOT cause the Great Recession

Postby Viper » Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:13 pm

McAz wrote:
Viper wrote:
Fletch wrote:Protester with no legs is shot dead by Israeli troops along with two other Palestinians
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ldier.html

A genuine case of anti Semitism. One that's been going on for 70 odd years. Palestinians, real Semitic people being ruled over and massacred by the Khazars , Russians, Europeans and American people who were enticed there or felt they should go there. Not a drop of Semitic blood amongst them, just colonisers from other countries after the war.

I don't think you two know the real meaning of Semitic people. Religion is not Semitic. Jews are just those who follow the religion of Judaism. It's not a race nor hereditary, despite the daft claims of being so if the Mother was. It's propaganda.

Religion, all religion, is a self identifying choice, or more accurately, something indoctrinated on children from birth by fanatics. They all peddle their own versions of supremacy and try to convince others to join the cause. Criminal factions hide behind religion, it's sold to the public as being the religion, it's not. Hence you have those following the real religion demonstrating against the criminal elements within it. A fact some clearly avoid commenting on for it destroys their claims. That's the problem with propaganda, it gets found out eventually.


At least you show yourself. I wonder if the others will now break cover and reveal themselves. Canny mcaz rollup? Agree with Fletch?


"Antisemitism (also spelled anti-Semitism or anti-semitism) is hostility to, prejudice, or discrimination against Jews. A person who holds such positions is called an antisemite. Antisemitism is generally considered to be a form of racism."

Afaik, Fletch, Rolly or Canny are neither racists or anti-Semites. No-one is calling to deny Jews citizenship or to ban their headwear - measures that you supported Viper.

Why did you do that BTW? :dunno:


I dont recall. Please cite these proposed policies and my support of them.

As for your foursome above. Not 1 of them will challenge the anti semitism in the labour party. All content to turn a blind eye. If i am wrong please post a link to anyone of them challenging the labour anti semites.
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Re: Tories admit Labour did NOT cause the Great Recession

Postby Fletch » Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:19 pm

Viper wrote:I dont recall. Please cite these proposed policies and my support of them.

As for your foursome above. Not 1 of them will challenge the anti semitism in the labour party. All content to turn a blind eye. If i am wrong please post a link to anyone of them challenging the labour anti semites.


I think you were told a while ago, maybe this thread, maybe another, that criticising Israel is not anti Semitic.

Watch this for the absurdity of the claims made:

http://www.aljazeera.com/investigations/thelobby/
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Re: Tories admit Labour did NOT cause the Great Recession

Postby McAz » Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:20 pm

Viper wrote:
McAz wrote:"Antisemitism (also spelled anti-Semitism or anti-semitism) is hostility to, prejudice, or discrimination against Jews. A person who holds such positions is called an antisemite. Antisemitism is generally considered to be a form of racism."

Afaik, Fletch, Rolly or Canny are neither racists or anti-Semites. No-one is calling to deny Jews citizenship or to ban their headwear - measures that you supported Viper.

Why did you do that BTW? :dunno:


I dont recall. Please cite these proposed policies and my support of them.


Odd, you remembered well enough yesterday - no matter, always happy to oblige:


"The leader of France’s National Front party has told an Israeli TV channel that she believes French Jews should be banned from wearing a Kippah..." - The Jewish Chronicle, February 5, 2017

"French Jews will have to give up Israeli citizenship, says Le Pen." - The Times of Israel, 10 February 2017


Viper wrote:
Cannydc wrote:....who would you now prefer to win, given what has been said by, and about MLP ?

On balance MLP. (Le Pen)
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Re: Tories admit Labour did NOT cause the Great Recession

Postby Viper » Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:30 pm

McAz wrote:
Viper wrote:
McAz wrote:"Antisemitism (also spelled anti-Semitism or anti-semitism) is hostility to, prejudice, or discrimination against Jews. A person who holds such positions is called an antisemite. Antisemitism is generally considered to be a form of racism."

Afaik, Fletch, Rolly or Canny are neither racists or anti-Semites. No-one is calling to deny Jews citizenship or to ban their headwear - measures that you supported Viper.

Why did you do that BTW? :dunno:


I dont recall. Please cite these proposed policies and my support of them.


Odd, you remembered well enough yesterday - no matter, always happy to oblige:


"The leader of France’s National Front party has told an Israeli TV channel that she believes French Jews should be banned from wearing a Kippah..." - The Jewish Chronicle, February 5, 2017

"French Jews will have to give up Israeli citizenship, says Le Pen." - The Times of Israel, 10 February 2017


Viper wrote:
Cannydc wrote:....who would you now prefer to win, given what has been said by, and about MLP ?

On balance MLP. (Le Pen)


We need links not press tittle tattle. With your propensity for fake news you have to provide more.

Discussion cannot take place without you providing links to le pens anti semitic policies. I would have thought you find such easy to post.

So back it up and we can discuss. I like to discuss.
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Re: Tories admit Labour did NOT cause the Great Recession

Postby Viper » Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:35 pm

The times of Israel certainly quite vocal expressing its concerns about labours anti semitic problem mcaz.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/uks-jewis ... rejudices/
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Re: Tories admit Labour did NOT cause the Great Recession

Postby Fletch » Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:40 pm

Viper wrote:The times of Israel certainly quite vocal expressing its concerns about labours anti semitic problem mcaz.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/uks-jewis ... rejudices/


You haven't watched 'The Lobby' I gave you link for a few posts ago, have you? :shake head:
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Re: Tories admit Labour did NOT cause the Great Recession

Postby McAz » Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:41 pm

Viper wrote:
We need links not press tittle tattle. With your propensity for fake news you have to provide more.


How is it tittle tattle or fake news? You confirmed your support for the anti-Semite Le Pen on this site knowing full well that she intended that;

1) French Jews would have to give up their Israeli citizenship.
2) French Jews would be banned from wearing a Kippah.

Why do you do this? :dunno:
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Re: Tories admit Labour did NOT cause the Great Recession

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:43 pm

Viper wrote:
McAz wrote:
Viper wrote:
Fletch wrote:Protester with no legs is shot dead by Israeli troops along with two other Palestinians
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ldier.html

A genuine case of anti Semitism. One that's been going on for 70 odd years. Palestinians, real Semitic people being ruled over and massacred by the Khazars , Russians, Europeans and American people who were enticed there or felt they should go there. Not a drop of Semitic blood amongst them, just colonisers from other countries after the war.

I don't think you two know the real meaning of Semitic people. Religion is not Semitic. Jews are just those who follow the religion of Judaism. It's not a race nor hereditary, despite the daft claims of being so if the Mother was. It's propaganda.

Religion, all religion, is a self identifying choice, or more accurately, something indoctrinated on children from birth by fanatics. They all peddle their own versions of supremacy and try to convince others to join the cause. Criminal factions hide behind religion, it's sold to the public as being the religion, it's not. Hence you have those following the real religion demonstrating against the criminal elements within it. A fact some clearly avoid commenting on for it destroys their claims. That's the problem with propaganda, it gets found out eventually.


At least you show yourself. I wonder if the others will now break cover and reveal themselves. Canny mcaz rollup? Agree with Fletch?


"Antisemitism (also spelled anti-Semitism or anti-semitism) is hostility to, prejudice, or discrimination against Jews. A person who holds such positions is called an antisemite. Antisemitism is generally considered to be a form of racism."

Afaik, Fletch, Rolly or Canny are neither racists or anti-Semites. No-one is calling to deny Jews citizenship or to ban their headwear - measures that you supported Viper.

Why did you do that BTW? :dunno:


I dont recall. Please cite these proposed policies and my support of them.

As for your foursome above. Not 1 of them will challenge the anti semitism in the labour party. All content to turn a blind eye. If i am wrong please post a link to anyone of them challenging the labour anti semites.

I answered and said there's a lot of anti Zionism in the Labour party but you still refuse to answer my one simple question.
You're obviously out of your depth.
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