The NHS as Canny/Labour desribes it are Bollocks

The NHS as Canny/Labour desribes it are Bollocks

Postby Rocthedog » Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:04 pm

There are pressure points, mostly in inner cities. not in all of them. Three days ago my wife's mother had to call for ambulance, it arrived in 14 minutes, she was taken straight into a ward, ( Minor Stroke) two days later was brought home. After being treated by the doctor British by the way, and two nurses, one dutch one British so two out of three ain't bad. This crisis talk is whipped up by Corbyn and his crew followed up by Corbyn supporters. Like Canny and his type. I do notice no one puts up about population explosion, which has been the cause of this pressure on the NHS and all sorts of government facilities, schools and such. But that don't play well does it. Crisis ye right.
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Re: The NHS as Canny/Labour desribes it are Bollocks

Postby Viper » Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:35 pm

I hope your mum makes a full recovery.
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Postby malamute » Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:59 pm

I had an appointment this morning at our major hospital approx 25 miles away. I had to have an ultrasound on a painful shoulder.

The appointment was for 10am and I was asked to arrive 15 minutes before. I checked in at 9.40 and I was called in at 8 minutes to 10. I was seen by a nurse and a radiologist. He explained what he had found and said I should make an appointment with my GP for more details. I was back in my car by 10.10.

I got home at 12 and at 12.30 my GP Practice rang to make me a GP follow up appointment. I couldnt believe it!

I first saw my GP about this problem less than a month ago and an xray was arranged for me within two weeks. The ultrasound followed that.

I know I wasnt in A and E but I couldnt fault my treatment today.
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Re: The NHS as Canny/Labour desribes it are Bollocks

Postby Cannydc » Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:41 pm

malamute wrote:I had an appointment this morning at our major hospital approx 25 miles away. I had to have an ultrasound on a painful shoulder.

The appointment was for 10am and I was asked to arrive 15 minutes before. I checked in at 9.40 and I was called in at 8 minutes to 10. I was seen by a nurse and a radiologist. He explained what he had found and said I should make an appointment with my GP for more details. I was back in my car by 10.10.

I got home at 12 and at 12.30 my GP Practice rang to make me a GP follow up appointment. I couldnt believe it!

I first saw my GP about this problem less than a month ago and an xray was arranged for me within two weeks. The ultrasound followed that.

I know I wasnt in A and E but I couldnt fault my treatment today.


You seem to have an NHS season ticket.

Very convenient when a story is needed to fit an agenda.

I see that King's Lynn hospital has been operating at "dangerous levels of bed occupancy" in the last couple of weeks. Hardly inner city, is it ?
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Re: The NHS as Canny/Labour desribes it are Bollocks

Postby Cannydc » Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:45 pm

December was the worst month for A&E waiting times in England since records began in 2004.

Plymouth's Derriford Hospital had just two beds free one day last week, according to latest NHS figures. The Department of Health and Social Care acknowledged there were problems.

Emergency department consultants from five South West hospitals are among those to have signed a letter to Prime Minister Theresa May spelling out the danger patients are facing this winter.

The doctors - from Barnstaple, Cornwall, Plymouth, Torbay and Taunton - are among 68 senior A&E doctors nationally saying patients are dying in hospital corridors as safety is compromised by "intolerable" conditions.

Reports have emerged from hospital bosses who are warning they have run out of beds, and people are being left for hours on trolleys in corridors, or in ambulances as emergency teams struggle with the huge demand on services.

Inner City ?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/cp7r8vglnnwt/nhs
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Postby Cannydc » Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:50 pm

Rocthedog wrote:There are pressure points, mostly in inner cities. not in all of them. Three days ago my wife's mother had to call for ambulance, it arrived in 14 minutes, she was taken straight into a ward, ( Minor Stroke) two days later was brought home. After being treated by the doctor British by the way, and two nurses, one dutch one British so two out of three ain't bad. This crisis talk is whipped up by Corbyn and his crew followed up by Corbyn supporters. Like Canny and his type. I do notice no one puts up about population explosion, which has been the cause of this pressure on the NHS and all sorts of government facilities, schools and such. But that don't play well does it. Crisis ye right.


Banbury, Oxford (far from 'inner city')

A SUSPECTED stroke victim was forced to spend 11 hours in a hospital corridor waiting for a bed in A&E - despite being rushed to hospital by ambulance as an emergency.

Brenda Mountford, 77, was blue-lighted to A&E after a fall at home - but spent three hours in the back of the ambulance before the hospital was even able to admit her, say her furious family.

"She was freezing cold. The safety bars were crushing her. They had to keep turning the ambulance on for the heating.

"The corridors were four-a-side. All the cubicles were full, the waiting room was full.

"It's just dreadful. We are worried to death. They've got no beds and we have snow forecast; how are they possibly going to keep up?"

Mrs Mountford was transferred to the corridor at 1.45am, and was only moved into a cubicle at 1pm - 14-and-a-half hours after she fell at 10.30pm the night before.


Sorry about your mum - seems she was in a very fortunate position as far as her treatment was concerned. Many are not so lucky. Hope she recovers soon.

Oh, and the link is from the Sun - deliberate so Viper can see the pictures.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2612359/1 ... er-stroke/
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Re: The NHS as Canny/Labour desribes it are Bollocks

Postby malamute » Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:26 pm

Cannydc wrote:
malamute wrote:I had an appointment this morning at our major hospital approx 25 miles away. I had to have an ultrasound on a painful shoulder.

The appointment was for 10am and I was asked to arrive 15 minutes before. I checked in at 9.40 and I was called in at 8 minutes to 10. I was seen by a nurse and a radiologist. He explained what he had found and said I should make an appointment with my GP for more details. I was back in my car by 10.10.

I got home at 12 and at 12.30 my GP Practice rang to make me a GP follow up appointment. I couldnt believe it!

I first saw my GP about this problem less than a month ago and an xray was arranged for me within two weeks. The ultrasound followed that.

I know I wasnt in A and E but I couldnt fault my treatment today.


You seem to have an NHS season ticket.

Very convenient when a story is needed to fit an agenda.

I see that King's Lynn hospital has been operating at "dangerous levels of bed occupancy" in the last couple of weeks. Hardly inner city, is it ?


Season ticket? You must have the wrong person. I had a torn meniscus last year and this shoulder just now and thats it. My elderly mother though had many problems last year and trips to hospital so maybe thats confusing you.

I actually said “major hospital” not “inner city” and its the N and N Ive been to which is Norfolks major hospital. I dont know why you doubt every word I ever say. :woteva: Not that it really bothers me but it does make me wonder why you feel the need to do this? Would you like to see a photo of my car park ticket from this morning?
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Re: The NHS as Canny/Labour desribes it are Bollocks

Postby Viper » Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:42 pm

Canny has a narrative to sell on the NHS. Not because he cares about it..oh no.. its because he wants to politically weaponise it. Tis the only onterest he has. Tis why he never mentions welsh NHS (labour administrated) being worse.

Malamute i think you and i are similar. Expect the worst hope for the best and make good out of a situation. Glad to hear things went well. :smilin:
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Re: The NHS as Canny/Labour desribes it are Bollocks

Postby Cannydc » Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:13 pm

malamute wrote:
Cannydc wrote:
malamute wrote:I had an appointment this morning at our major hospital approx 25 miles away. I had to have an ultrasound on a painful shoulder.

The appointment was for 10am and I was asked to arrive 15 minutes before. I checked in at 9.40 and I was called in at 8 minutes to 10. I was seen by a nurse and a radiologist. He explained what he had found and said I should make an appointment with my GP for more details. I was back in my car by 10.10.

I got home at 12 and at 12.30 my GP Practice rang to make me a GP follow up appointment. I couldnt believe it!

I first saw my GP about this problem less than a month ago and an xray was arranged for me within two weeks. The ultrasound followed that.

I know I wasnt in A and E but I couldnt fault my treatment today.


You seem to have an NHS season ticket.

Very convenient when a story is needed to fit an agenda.

I see that King's Lynn hospital has been operating at "dangerous levels of bed occupancy" in the last couple of weeks. Hardly inner city, is it ?


Season ticket? You must have the wrong person. I had a torn meniscus last year and this shoulder just now and thats it. My elderly mother though had many problems last year and trips to hospital so maybe thats confusing you.

I actually said “major hospital” not “inner city” and its the N and N Ive been to which is Norfolks major hospital. I dont know why you doubt every word I ever say. :woteva: Not that it really bothers me but it does make me wonder why you feel the need to do this? Would you like to see a photo of my car park ticket from this morning?


I was referring to the idiotic OP quote, that NHS issues are an inner city issue - with a couple of simple quotes from countryside hospitals his stupidity was highlighted. And I included a stroke victim left for 11 hours on a trolley in a hospital (Banbury) not renowned for immigrants...

You usually speak to 'a friend' or have 'several friends' who amazingly corroborate your stance every single time. No wonder many on here must roll their eyes every time they hear it.
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Re: The NHS as Canny/Labour desribes it are Bollocks

Postby Viper » Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:17 pm

Cannydc wrote:
malamute wrote:
Cannydc wrote:
malamute wrote:I had an appointment this morning at our major hospital approx 25 miles away. I had to have an ultrasound on a painful shoulder.

The appointment was for 10am and I was asked to arrive 15 minutes before. I checked in at 9.40 and I was called in at 8 minutes to 10. I was seen by a nurse and a radiologist. He explained what he had found and said I should make an appointment with my GP for more details. I was back in my car by 10.10.

I got home at 12 and at 12.30 my GP Practice rang to make me a GP follow up appointment. I couldnt believe it!

I first saw my GP about this problem less than a month ago and an xray was arranged for me within two weeks. The ultrasound followed that.

I know I wasnt in A and E but I couldnt fault my treatment today.


You seem to have an NHS season ticket.

Very convenient when a story is needed to fit an agenda.

I see that King's Lynn hospital has been operating at "dangerous levels of bed occupancy" in the last couple of weeks. Hardly inner city, is it ?


Season ticket? You must have the wrong person. I had a torn meniscus last year and this shoulder just now and thats it. My elderly mother though had many problems last year and trips to hospital so maybe thats confusing you.

I actually said “major hospital” not “inner city” and its the N and N Ive been to which is Norfolks major hospital. I dont know why you doubt every word I ever say. :woteva: Not that it really bothers me but it does make me wonder why you feel the need to do this? Would you like to see a photo of my car park ticket from this morning?


I was referring to the idiotic OP quote, that NHS issues are an inner city issue - with a couple of simple quotes from countryside hospitals his stupidity was highlighted. And I included a stroke victim left for 11 hours on a trolley in a hospital (Banbury) not renowned for immigrants...

You usually speak to 'a friend' or have 'several friends' who amazingly corroborate your stance every single time. No wonder many on here must roll their eyes every time they hear it.


Who cares if you roll your eyes? A discredited partisan drone :dunno: ...its more an affirmation tbf.
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Postby malamute » Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:27 pm

Cannydc wrote:
malamute wrote:
Cannydc wrote:
malamute wrote:I had an appointment this morning at our major hospital approx 25 miles away. I had to have an ultrasound on a painful shoulder.

The appointment was for 10am and I was asked to arrive 15 minutes before. I checked in at 9.40 and I was called in at 8 minutes to 10. I was seen by a nurse and a radiologist. He explained what he had found and said I should make an appointment with my GP for more details. I was back in my car by 10.10.

I got home at 12 and at 12.30 my GP Practice rang to make me a GP follow up appointment. I couldnt believe it!

I first saw my GP about this problem less than a month ago and an xray was arranged for me within two weeks. The ultrasound followed that.

I know I wasnt in A and E but I couldnt fault my treatment today.


You seem to have an NHS season ticket.

Very convenient when a story is needed to fit an agenda.

I see that King's Lynn hospital has been operating at "dangerous levels of bed occupancy" in the last couple of weeks. Hardly inner city, is it ?


Season ticket? You must have the wrong person. I had a torn meniscus last year and this shoulder just now and thats it. My elderly mother though had many problems last year and trips to hospital so maybe thats confusing you.

I actually said “major hospital” not “inner city” and its the N and N Ive been to which is Norfolks major hospital. I dont know why you doubt every word I ever say. :woteva: Not that it really bothers me but it does make me wonder why you feel the need to do this? Would you like to see a photo of my car park ticket from this morning?


I was referring to the idiotic OP quote, that NHS issues are an inner city issue - with a couple of simple quotes from countryside hospitals his stupidity was highlighted. And I included a stroke victim left for 11 hours on a trolley in a hospital (Banbury) not renowned for immigrants...

You usually speak to 'a friend' or have 'several friends' who amazingly corroborate your stance every single time. No wonder many on here must roll their eyes every time they hear it.


You always trot out this old thing about “friends”. As Ive told you before, I’m a middle aged person with adult children and weve lived in this area now for 30+ years and we run a business so isnt it normal for me to know a lot of people and have a lot of friends? I have friends from when my kids went to school, I have former work colleagues, I have friends from various organisations and groups Ive been involved with and so on. Dont you have any friends? Maybe thats why you doubt just about everything that other people say? :dunno:
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Postby Viper » Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:41 pm

malamute wrote:
Cannydc wrote:
malamute wrote:
Cannydc wrote:
malamute wrote:I had an appointment this morning at our major hospital approx 25 miles away. I had to have an ultrasound on a painful shoulder.

The appointment was for 10am and I was asked to arrive 15 minutes before. I checked in at 9.40 and I was called in at 8 minutes to 10. I was seen by a nurse and a radiologist. He explained what he had found and said I should make an appointment with my GP for more details. I was back in my car by 10.10.

I got home at 12 and at 12.30 my GP Practice rang to make me a GP follow up appointment. I couldnt believe it!

I first saw my GP about this problem less than a month ago and an xray was arranged for me within two weeks. The ultrasound followed that.

I know I wasnt in A and E but I couldnt fault my treatment today.


You seem to have an NHS season ticket.

Very convenient when a story is needed to fit an agenda.

I see that King's Lynn hospital has been operating at "dangerous levels of bed occupancy" in the last couple of weeks. Hardly inner city, is it ?


Season ticket? You must have the wrong person. I had a torn meniscus last year and this shoulder just now and thats it. My elderly mother though had many problems last year and trips to hospital so maybe thats confusing you.

I actually said “major hospital” not “inner city” and its the N and N Ive been to which is Norfolks major hospital. I dont know why you doubt every word I ever say. :woteva: Not that it really bothers me but it does make me wonder why you feel the need to do this? Would you like to see a photo of my car park ticket from this morning?


I was referring to the idiotic OP quote, that NHS issues are an inner city issue - with a couple of simple quotes from countryside hospitals his stupidity was highlighted. And I included a stroke victim left for 11 hours on a trolley in a hospital (Banbury) not renowned for immigrants...

You usually speak to 'a friend' or have 'several friends' who amazingly corroborate your stance every single time. No wonder many on here must roll their eyes every time they hear it.


You always trot out this old thing about “friends”. As Ive told you before, I’m a middle aged person with adult children and weve lived in this area now for 30+ years and we run a business so isnt it normal for me to know a lot of people and have a lot of friends? I have friends from when my kids went to school, I have former work colleagues, I have friends from various organisations and groups Ive been involved with and so on. Dont you have any friends? Maybe thats why you doubt just about everything that other people say? :dunno:


:pmsl: spot on.
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Postby Cannydc » Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:45 pm

Ohhh look - Viper has got a gang....



lolol
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Re: The NHS as Canny/Labour desribes it are Bollocks

Postby malamute » Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:17 pm

Cannydc wrote:Ohhh look - Viper has got a gang....



lolol



Deflection as usual. :gigglesnshit:
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Re: The NHS as Canny/Labour desribes it are Bollocks

Postby Lambert » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:16 pm

Rocthedog wrote:There are pressure points, mostly in inner cities. not in all of them. Three days ago my wife's mother had to call for ambulance, it arrived in 14 minutes, she was taken straight into a ward, ( Minor Stroke) two days later was brought home. After being treated by the doctor British by the way, and two nurses, one dutch one British so two out of three ain't bad. This crisis talk is whipped up by Corbyn and his crew followed up by Corbyn supporters. Like Canny and his type. I do notice no one puts up about population explosion, which has been the cause of this pressure on the NHS and all sorts of government facilities, schools and such. But that don't play well does it. Crisis ye right.


Surely it shouldn't have to be explained to you that one person's experience doesn't reflect the current state of the NHS?

Agree with you about population growth though, it's a factor rarely addressed properly.
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