The NHS as Canny/Labour desribes it are Bollocks

The NHS as Canny/Labour desribes it are Bollocks

Postby Rocthedog » Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:04 pm

There are pressure points, mostly in inner cities. not in all of them. Three days ago my wife's mother had to call for ambulance, it arrived in 14 minutes, she was taken straight into a ward, ( Minor Stroke) two days later was brought home. After being treated by the doctor British by the way, and two nurses, one dutch one British so two out of three ain't bad. This crisis talk is whipped up by Corbyn and his crew followed up by Corbyn supporters. Like Canny and his type. I do notice no one puts up about population explosion, which has been the cause of this pressure on the NHS and all sorts of government facilities, schools and such. But that don't play well does it. Crisis ye right.
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Re: The NHS as Canny/Labour desribes it are Bollocks

Postby Guest » Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:50 pm

Or we could go with the science backed and evidence, not anecdotally, backed theory that the crisis is worse this year than for many previous years because the seasonal flu this year is a particularly nasty strain and not enough people have immunised.
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Re: The NHS as Canny/Labour desribes it are Bollocks

Postby Major » Sat Jan 13, 2018 1:37 pm

Guest wrote:Or we could go with the science backed and evidence, not anecdotally, backed theory that the crisis is worse this year than for many previous years because the seasonal flu this year is a particularly nasty strain and not enough people have immunised.


We upon OUR island have been immunised against a particular strain of flu which we will not get, we may get a cold but NOT that flu.

We could get Aussie flu .

We have had flu jabs since 1968.
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Re: The NHS as Canny/Labour desribes it are Bollocks

Postby McAz » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:09 pm

Major wrote:
Guest wrote:Or we could go with the science backed and evidence, not anecdotally, backed theory that the crisis is worse this year than for many previous years because the seasonal flu this year is a particularly nasty strain and not enough people have immunised.


We upon OUR island have been immunised against a particular strain of flu which we will not get, we may get a cold but NOT that flu.

We could get Aussie flu .

We have had flu jabs since 1968.


You don't have an island starbold - and you never will. More importantly, the flu jab does little to immunize, especially people of you age - it helps reduce the risk of flu by about 40% to 60%.
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Re: The NHS as Canny/Labour desribes it are Bollocks

Postby Punk » Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:05 am

Guest wrote:Or we could go with the science backed and evidence, not anecdotally, backed theory that the crisis is worse this year than for many previous years because the seasonal flu this year is a particularly nasty strain and not enough people have immunised.


or that 16,000 NHS beds have been cut since July 2010.
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Re: The NHS as Canny/Labour desribes it are Bollocks

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:07 am

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Re: The NHS as Canny/Labour desribes it are Bollocks

Postby Viper » Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:20 am

Labour are running a sub standard NHS in Wales (with higher funding per head).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-38670356
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Re: The NHS as Canny/Labour desribes it are Bollocks

Postby Viper » Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:45 pm

Patients wait 5 hrs in A&E whilst nurses..book holidays on admissions computer :yikes:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5346171/n ... day-break/
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Re: The NHS as Canny/Labour desribes it are Bollocks

Postby Punk » Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:53 pm

More fake news from the Scum. Whose phone did they hack to get that piece of garbage?
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Re: The NHS as Canny/Labour desribes it are Bollocks

Postby Punk » Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:24 pm

Major wrote:
Guest wrote:Or we could go with the science backed and evidence, not anecdotally, backed theory that the crisis is worse this year than for many previous years because the seasonal flu this year is a particularly nasty strain and not enough people have immunised.


We upon OUR island have been immunised against a particular strain of flu which we will not get, we may get a cold but NOT that flu.

We could get Aussie flu .

We have had flu jabs since 1968.


Why did the Tories vote AGAINST NHS jabs throughout the 1960s? :hand:
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Re: The NHS as Canny/Labour desribes it are Bollocks

Postby Guest » Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:12 pm

McAz wrote:
Major wrote:
Guest wrote:Or we could go with the science backed and evidence, not anecdotally, backed theory that the crisis is worse this year than for many previous years because the seasonal flu this year is a particularly nasty strain and not enough people have immunised.


We upon OUR island have been immunised against a particular strain of flu which we will not get, we may get a cold but NOT that flu.

We could get Aussie flu .

We have had flu jabs since 1968.


You don't have an island starbold - and you never will. More importantly, the flu jab does little to immunize, especially people of you age - it helps reduce the risk of flu by about 40% to 60%.

It's far more important that carer's are get shots - the math are complex but it makes a lot more difference to excess winter deaths that just giving shots to the vulnerable themselves
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Re: The NHS as Canny/Labour desribes it are Bollocks

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:22 pm

Guest wrote:
McAz wrote:
Major wrote:
Guest wrote:Or we could go with the science backed and evidence, not anecdotally, backed theory that the crisis is worse this year than for many previous years because the seasonal flu this year is a particularly nasty strain and not enough people have immunised.


We upon OUR island have been immunised against a particular strain of flu which we will not get, we may get a cold but NOT that flu.

We could get Aussie flu .

We have had flu jabs since 1968.


You don't have an island starbold - and you never will. More importantly, the flu jab does little to immunize, especially people of you age - it helps reduce the risk of flu by about 40% to 60%.

It's far more important that carer's are get shots - the math are complex but it makes a lot more difference to excess winter deaths that just giving shots to the vulnerable themselves

I've read there's an 11% to 40% success rate with the flu jab.
Those figures of course must be made up.
How can an accurate figure be arrived at?
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Re: The NHS as Canny/Labour desribes it are Bollocks

Postby Guest » Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:28 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:
Guest wrote:
McAz wrote:
Major wrote:
Guest wrote:Or we could go with the science backed and evidence, not anecdotally, backed theory that the crisis is worse this year than for many previous years because the seasonal flu this year is a particularly nasty strain and not enough people have immunised.


We upon OUR island have been immunised against a particular strain of flu which we will not get, we may get a cold but NOT that flu.

We could get Aussie flu .

We have had flu jabs since 1968.


You don't have an island starbold - and you never will. More importantly, the flu jab does little to immunize, especially people of you age - it helps reduce the risk of flu by about 40% to 60%.

It's far more important that carer's are get shots - the math are complex but it makes a lot more difference to excess winter deaths that just giving shots to the vulnerable themselves

I've read there's an 11% to 40% success rate with the flu jab.
Those figures of course must be made up.
How can an accurate figure be arrived at?

By calculating contagion rates with and without the jab - obviously
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