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Re: Korea

Postby Maddog » Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:23 am

I though my post was pretty self explanatory.

Lets try it again.

I disagree with it most of the time.

We should bring everyone home and let the shithole countries go at like they did in the past. Or let the Europeans deal with it.


Any questions?
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Re: Korea

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:05 am

Maddog wrote:I though my post was pretty self explanatory.

Lets try it again.

I disagree with it most of the time.

We should bring everyone home and let the shithole countries go at like they did in the past. Or let the Europeans deal with it.


Any questions?

Like they did in the past?
Like this you mean ....... You mean like Syria could still be a prosperous trading nation?
A million Iraqis could still be alive and three million crippled people could still be walking and working?
Libya could still be one of the wealthiest populations ever seen on the face of this planet?
The Shah of Iran could never have tortured and killed all those people .... people being kept from the oil wealth?
All those hundreds of thousands of buildings farms road bridges etc would still be standing?
The estimated twenty to forty million civilians America have mutilated and killed since the end of WW2 would never have died?
That kind of stop interfering?

Iraq had a prosperous and organised nation.
War like nutter at the helm who allowed Jews and Christians to live side by side with the Muzzies.
Bars night clubs and the best thing in the Arab world to defy extreme Islam.
Wanting to be very western.

Libya incredibly wealthy and highly educated population with one of the best leaders going against extreme Islam.

Syria where the husband and wife team are free from two opposing sides of Islam which they used to bring the countries Muslims Christians and Jews together.

Afghanistan where the Taliban had eradicated 90% of the worlds illegal heroin before the Americans turned up and created more illegal heroin than the world had ever seen before.

Oh how the people of the world would benefit from you staying home and stoping the bullshit.
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Re: Korea

Postby Maddog » Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:19 am

Rolluplostinspace wrote:
Maddog wrote:I though my post was pretty self explanatory.

Lets try it again.

I disagree with it most of the time.

We should bring everyone home and let the shithole countries go at like they did in the past. Or let the Europeans deal with it.


Any questions?

Like they did in the past?
Like this you mean ....... You mean like Syria could still be a prosperous trading nation?
A million Iraqis could still be alive and three million crippled people could still be walking and working?
Libya could still be one of the wealthiest populations ever seen on the face of this planet?
The Shah of Iran could never have tortured and killed all those people .... people being kept from the oil wealth?
All those hundreds of thousands of buildings farms road bridges etc would still be standing?
The estimated twenty to forty million civilians America have mutilated and killed since the end of WW2 would never have died?
That kind of stop interfering?

Iraq had a prosperous and organised nation.
War like nutter at the helm who allowed Jews and Christians to live side by side with the Muzzies.
Bars night clubs and the best thing in the Arab world to defy extreme Islam.
Wanting to be very western.

Libya incredibly wealthy and highly educated population with one of the best leaders going against extreme Islam.

Syria where the husband and wife team are free from two opposing sides of Islam which they used to bring the countries Muslims Christians and Jews together.

Afghanistan where the Taliban had eradicated 90% of the worlds illegal heroin before the Americans turned up and created more illegal heroin than the world had ever seen before.

Oh how the people of the world would benefit from you staying home and stoping the bullshit.



So would the people of the US. :dafinger:
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Re: Korea

Postby Guest » Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:37 am

Maddog wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:The last two on the kill list N Korea and Iran.
Funny how those two are in the news daily now.



They are always in the news you numptie.







And jack never ever mentions Britain's involvement in these wars, Unless pulled up like now. The uk has been selling arms all over the world for the last centuary. The old empire fucked a lot of countries on this planet and to this day some have never recovered.
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Re: Korea

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:36 am

Guest wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:The last two on the kill list N Korea and Iran.
Funny how those two are in the news daily now.



They are always in the news you numptie.







And jack never ever mentions Britain's involvement in these wars, Unless pulled up like now. The uk has been selling arms all over the world for the last centuary. The old empire fucked a lot of countries on this planet and to this day some have never recovered.

Yes Jac does and refers to it as the Anglo American empire.
I've referred to history books about England owning the opim trade for 250 year but now it's the Anglo American opium trade.
Loads of stuff loads of times.
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Re: Korea

Postby Trapper John » Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:06 am

Maddog wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:
Maddog wrote:
Rolluplostinspace wrote:

It ebbs and flows. That happens with shithole countries. :leer:

Have you ever disagreed with American foreign policy in twenty years?



I disagree with it most of the time.

We should bring everyone home and let the shithole countries go at like they did in the past. Or let the Europeans deal with it.

I hope you don't include the UK in that. I agree with you I think the world works much better when you just leave the fuckers to sort things out themselves. Trouble is the bleeding heart liberals demand change when human rights are ignored, genocides take place when murder, starvation, famine take hold in these places - then moan when someone tries to do something about it.

Where Korea is concerned I doubt it is any coincidence that in the almost 70 years since it's partition nothing much has happened or changed until Trump came to power.

Whether people like him or not he wants to get things done and where N.Korea is concerned, his percieved reputation has obviously worked by giving the North reason to believe that the bloke running the most powerful military on Earth is maybe just as nuts as their boss. :laughing:
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Re: Korea

Postby Fletch » Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:08 pm

Trapper John wrote:I hope you don't include the UK in that. I agree with you I think the world works much better when you just leave the fuckers to sort things out themselves. Trouble is the bleeding heart liberals demand change when human rights are ignored, genocides take place when murder, starvation, famine take hold in these places - then moan when someone tries to do something about it.

Where Korea is concerned I doubt it is any coincidence that in the almost 70 years since it's partition nothing much has happened or changed until Trump came to power.

Whether people like him or not he wants to get things done and where N.Korea is concerned, his percieved reputation has obviously worked by giving the North reason to believe that the bloke running the most powerful military on Earth is maybe just as nuts as their boss. :laughing:


Another right winger who trades on msm propaganda rather than facts. As I said, Trump had very little (I'd suggest nothing) to do with this. The reason was the election of a less US centric president who wishes proper engagement with the North, not some sort of war game psyops and threats compilation.

South Korea set to change policy on North as liberal wins election

Moon Jae-in, a left-leaning liberal who favours engagement with North Korea, has won South Korea’s presidential election, raising hopes of a potential rapprochement with Pyongyang.

The former human rights lawyer won 41.4% of the vote, according to an exit poll cited by the Yonhap news agency, placing him comfortably ahead of his nearest rivals, the centrist software entrepreneur Ahn Cheol-soo and the conservative hardliner Hong Joon-pyo, both of whom have conceded defeat.

South Koreans who backed Moon, 64, will be hoping the election result will mark a clean break from the corruption scandal surrounding his disgraced predecessor Park Geun-hye.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... -president
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Re: Korea

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:09 pm

Rolluplostinspace wrote:America cannot handle the possibility of peace breaking out.
They have planned for a long time for the destruction of the North.
Peace breaking out could be very dangerous.


U.S. Humiliates South Korea, Threatens North Korea. Trump Undermines North-South Dialogue

Fearing that peace might break out with the two Koreas talking to each other, Washington instructed South Korean President Moon Jae-in to keep the message about anything but peace. It is not just Trump. A former top official for the Obama administration warned Moon that South Korea was not going to get anywhere with the North Koreans unless they have the “US behind them”. Humiliating, that is like saying that Moon’s “button” is not as big as Kim’s. The metaphor is exactly how the Washington elite see South Korea: as Washington’s obedient proxy state. The official went on to say,

“If South Koreans are viewed as running off the leash, it will exacerbate tension within the alliance”.

Running off the leash! Now more humiliation, is South Korea a US poodle? Instead President Moo............ https://www.globalresearch.ca/u-s-humil ... ue/5626501
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Re: Korea

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:19 pm

This from late last year ....... September 8, 2017 You wouldn’t know it if you were to turn on your television every day or simply skim the media’s headlines, but North Korea has continuously offered to freeze its nuclear program.

http://www.realnews24.com/media-silence ... eir-nukes/
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Re: Korea

Postby Rolluplostinspace » Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:39 pm

Trump Considers “Bloody Nose” Strike on North Korea

The Trump administration, or a powerful military-intelligence faction within it, is pushing for a pre-emptive military strike on North Korea, in the wake of, or possibly even during, the Winter Olympics due to start in South Korea on Friday.
The “bloody nose” option—a limited attack on the North Korean nuclear missile arsenal and infrastructure—is supposed to overawe the Pyongyang regime and bully it into surrendering to Washington’s demands to denuclearise.
Unprovoked US aggression, however, would almost certainly trigger retaliation, rather than submission, with incalculable consequences. Even if nuclear weapons were not immediately used, the death toll in South Korea alone is estimated in the tens of thousands on the first day, in a conflict that could rapidly draw in nuclear-armed powers such as China and Russia.
Yet, such an act of recklessness and savagery is precisely what is being discussed, debated and prepared in the upper echelons of the White House and the US security-intelligence apparatus. Within top military-foreign policy circles, the advanced nature of the plans is so well known that it is generating fears and opposition.

Last week, the Trump administration abruptly dumped its appointee for US ambassador to South Korea, Victor Cha, after he voiced opposition to a pre-emptive strike on North Korea. Cha subsequently went public, penning a comment in the Washington Post in which he warned that a US attack would put 230,000 Americans in South Korea at risk—equivalent to a medium-sized city like Pittsburgh or Cincinnati.
A letter to Trump last Friday signed by 18 Democratic senators, including Martin Heinrich, who sits on the Senate Armed Services Committee, expressed concern that Cha had been passed over. It declared that to take military action before exhausting diplomatic options would be not only “extremely irresponsible” but would lack “either a Constitutional basis or legal authority.”
The letter warned that “it is an enormous gamble to believe that a particular type of limited, pre-emptive strike will not be met with an escalatory respon.......... http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/02 ... s-f06.html
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Re: Korea

Postby Major » Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:46 pm

North Korea must be stopped from having the means to first strike/ attack the civilised world with nuclear bombs.
Kim is a nutter who cannot be controlled, some of you anti USA /Brits may not agree ad say Trump is a nutter but I know where my trust/ patriotism is.
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Re: Korea

Postby Snookerballs » Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:47 pm

Major wrote:North Korea must be stopped from having the means to first strike/ attack the civilised world with nuclear bombs.
Kim is a nutter who cannot be controlled, some of you anti USA /Brits may not agree ad say Trump is a nutter but I know where my trust/ patriotism is.


Your Patriotism should lie with hoping Team GB get some Gold Medals at the Winter Olympics in South Korea.

I watched the opening ceremony of the Winter Olympics I was struck by the fact that Sport can overcome all diplomatic relations and join two nations together, South Korean and North Korean Athletes standing side by side, The First time the two nations have come together since 1945
Kim Jong Un has a fine balancing act with the Asian Politics, with China and Russia.
The last thing that is wanted is Trump wading in with his " Gung Ho" attitude

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/olympics/winter-olympics/pyeongchang-2018-winter-olympics-north-south-korea-unified-team-ice-hockey-ioc-olympic-movement-a8201101.html
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Re: Korea

Postby Major » Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:09 am

Snookerballs wrote:
Major wrote:North Korea must be stopped from having the means to first strike/ attack the civilised world with nuclear bombs.
Kim is a nutter who cannot be controlled, some of you anti USA /Brits may not agree ad say Trump is a nutter but I know where my trust/ patriotism is.


Your Patriotism should lie with hoping Team GB get some Gold Medals at the Winter Olympics in South Korea.

I watched the opening ceremony of the Winter Olympics I was struck by the fact that Sport can overcome all diplomatic relations and join two nations together, South Korean and North Korean Athletes standing side by side, The First time the two nations have come together since 1945
Kim Jong Un has a fine balancing act with the Asian Politics, with China and Russia.
The last thing that is wanted is Trump wading in with his " Gung Ho" attitude

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/olympics/winter-olympics/pyeongchang-2018-winter-olympics-north-south-korea-unified-team-ice-hockey-ioc-olympic-movement-a8201101.html



It do

but does yours???? doubt it.
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Re: Korea

Postby Trapper John » Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:34 am

Fletch wrote:
Trapper John wrote:I hope you don't include the UK in that. I agree with you I think the world works much better when you just leave the fuckers to sort things out themselves. Trouble is the bleeding heart liberals demand change when human rights are ignored, genocides take place when murder, starvation, famine take hold in these places - then moan when someone tries to do something about it.

Where Korea is concerned I doubt it is any coincidence that in the almost 70 years since it's partition nothing much has happened or changed until Trump came to power.

Whether people like him or not he wants to get things done and where N.Korea is concerned, his percieved reputation has obviously worked by giving the North reason to believe that the bloke running the most powerful military on Earth is maybe just as nuts as their boss. :laughing:


Another right winger who trades on msm propaganda rather than facts. As I said, Trump had very little (I'd suggest nothing) to do with this.
The reason was the election of a less US centric president who wishes proper engagement with the North, not some sort of war game psyops and threats compilation.

South Korea set to change policy on North as liberal wins election

Moon Jae-in, a left-leaning liberal who favours engagement with North Korea, has won South Korea’s presidential election, raising hopes of a potential rapprochement with Pyongyang.

The former human rights lawyer won 41.4% of the vote, according to an exit poll cited by the Yonhap news agency, placing him comfortably ahead of his nearest rivals, the centrist software entrepreneur Ahn Cheol-soo and the conservative hardliner Hong Joon-pyo, both of whom have conceded defeat.

South Koreans who backed Moon, 64, will be hoping the election result will mark a clean break from the corruption scandal surrounding his disgraced predecessor Park Geun-hye.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... -president


......says the world's foremost political and military analyst. :roll:
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