THATCHER - THE TRUE FACE EMERGES

[Cannydc]

Sir Patrick Wright’s diaries reveal a disturbing picture of the woman

Her views on apartheid in South Africa were unsurprising, given her reluctance to agree with sanctions. She wanted a return to pre-1910 South Africa, with a white mini-state partitioned from neighbouring black states. She talked about partition as a solution to South Africa. All her (and Denis’s) instincts were in favour of the South African Whites. She revelled in her isolated position of opposing sanctions on South Africa.

Thatcher showed regular signs of her Germanophobia… she seemed to be obsessed by a feeling that German-speakers were going to dominate the community. Any talk of German reunification is anathema to her. Douglas Hurd remarked: ‘Cabinet now consists of three items: parliamentary affairs; home affairs; and xenophobia.’ Her loathing of the Germans and the European Commission was such that she apparently started to refer to the Commission as being in Bonn. She was even angered that Austria had applied to join the European Community, expressing dislike of the thought of ‘another German’ joining the club.

Thatcher was ‘at her worst’ during 1989’s Vietnamese boat people crisis. He says Howe told him she favoured ‘a policy of “pushing off” – refusing to allow them to land, oblivious of appalling implications… with photographs of sinking boats and drowning children’.

John Major talked quite angrily about Thatcher, saying that most of the press attacks on his ‘dithering’ came directly, or indirectly, from her; he really thought that she had become unbalanced.

I think he was 100% correct.

[Lady Murasaki]

She didn't really hide that awful side of herself. This just seems more of the same. But Major speaking out is interesting.

[Cannydc]

She didn't really hide that awful side of herself. This just seems more of the same. But Major speaking out is interesting.

I don't remember her on News At Ten telling the country how much she wanted to see refugee children from Vietnam drowning.

Must have missed that one.

[Lady Murasaki]

She didn't really hide that awful side of herself. This just seems more of the same. But Major speaking out is interesting.

I don't remember her on News At Ten telling the country how much she wanted to see refugee children from Vietnam drowning.

Must have missed that one.

Doesn't surprise me though. She was that type. Spitting Image had her down pretty well.

[Fletch]

John Major was the only decent Tory prime minister, Mrs T. and May are similar in outlook and behaviour. It's endemic in the Tory party, very few are decent people who want the best for the country or care for the less fortunate. Their interest is money, empire building and investment/directorship portfolios. The various right wing think tanks, especially US centric ones encourage that sort of thinking so even well meaning new MP's get swayed to the private interests personal wealth line of thinking. They also get their donations and lobbying goodies from big business so have to be 'onside' when it comes to policies that benefit them. Xenophobia and bigotry, if not out and out racism, are never far away. The US is a horribly racist and divided country and the Tory party is very influenced by the US. It's the nature of the beast I'm afraid.

[Lady Murasaki]

John Major was the only decent Tory prime minister, Mrs T. and May are similar in outlook and behaviour. It's endemic in the Tory party, very few are decent people who want the best for the country or care for the less fortunate. Their interest is money, empire building and investment/directorship portfolios. The various right wing think tanks, especially US centric ones encourage that sort of thinking so even well meaning new MP's get swayed to the private interests personal wealth line of thinking. They also get their donations and lobbying goodies from big business so have to be 'onside' when it comes to policies that benefit them. Xenophobia and bigotry, if not out and out racism, are never far away. The US is a horribly racist and divided country and the Tory party is very influenced by the US. It's the nature of the beast I'm afraid.

Indeed, well put.

[Cannydc]

John Major was the only decent Tory prime minister, Mrs T. and May are similar in outlook and behaviour. It's endemic in the Tory party, very few are decent people who want the best for the country or care for the less fortunate. Their interest is money, empire building and investment/directorship portfolios. The various right wing think tanks, especially US centric ones encourage that sort of thinking so even well meaning new MP's get swayed to the private interests personal wealth line of thinking. They also get their donations and lobbying goodies from big business so have to be 'onside' when it comes to policies that benefit them. Xenophobia and bigotry, if not out and out racism, are never far away. The US is a horribly racist and divided country and the Tory party is very influenced by the US. It's the nature of the beast I'm afraid.

I quite liked Sir Alec Douglas-Home.


(Kidding)

[Guest]

John Major was the only decent Tory prime minister, Mrs T. and May are similar in outlook and behaviour. It's endemic in the Tory party, very few are decent people who want the best for the country or care for the less fortunate. Their interest is money, empire building and investment/directorship portfolios. The various right wing think tanks, especially US centric ones encourage that sort of thinking so even well meaning new MP's get swayed to the private interests personal wealth line of thinking. They also get their donations and lobbying goodies from big business so have to be 'onside' when it comes to policies that benefit them. Xenophobia and bigotry, if not out and out racism, are never far away. The US is a horribly racist and divided country and the Tory party is very influenced by the US. It's the nature of the beast I'm afraid.

There still are some decent Tories around but they do tend to be first on the altar when the party demands ritual sacrifices.

We need only look to the most recent reshuffle when David Davies who had demonstrably lied to Parliament stayed in his post, Boorish Johnson whose antics had endangered the life and taken the liberty of a British Citizen in Iran stayed in his post, Jeremy Hunt who had presided over the biggest NHS crisis in a decade stayed in his post and Justine Greening who had turned around the Education Department and made it functional again after Gove and Morgan had taken turns poisoning every well was sacked because Theresa May had a personal grudge against her.

[Trapper John]

Because South Africa has been doing swimmingly since all black rule, still I suppose no-one minds a country collapsing in on itself and the thousands of deaths every week amid the chaos created by the ANC, as long as they do it to themselves, it's absolutely fine.

Same philosophy used to such great success in Rhodesia/Zimbabwe.

Seems like she wasn't that wrong afterall.

[Rolluplostinspace]

Because South Africa has been doing swimmingly since all black rule, still I suppose no-one minds a country collapsing in on itself and the thousands of deaths every week amid the chaos created by the ANC, as long as they do it to themselves, it's absolutely fine.

Same philosophy used to such great success in Rhodesia/Zimbabwe.

Seems like she wasn't that wrong afterall.

All the capital is still owned by the whites because Mandela sold out.
All his promises of nationalising the mines etc ditched as soon as he was freed.
Diamond gold chrome, manganese, platinum, vanadium and vermiculite ilmenite, palladium, rutile and zirconium coal iron ore.
He sold out.
After all those years in nick it's not really surprising.
From terrorist to darling of the establishment overnight.
If he'd stayed true to his promises there would be no way the Clintons etc of this world would have been keen to be seen at his funeral.
From revolutionary to media pop star at the turn of a key.
The blacks can now catch the bus but they still work for the same boss.
Worse conditions lower pay and poorer than ever.

[Trapper John]

Because South Africa has been doing swimmingly since all black rule, still I suppose no-one minds a country collapsing in on itself and the thousands of deaths every week amid the chaos created by the ANC, as long as they do it to themselves, it's absolutely fine.

Same philosophy used to such great success in Rhodesia/Zimbabwe.

Seems like she wasn't that wrong afterall.

All the capital is still owned by the whites because Mandela sold out.
All his promises of nationalising the mines etc ditched as soon as he was freed.
Diamond gold chrome, manganese, platinum, vanadium and vermiculite ilmenite, palladium, rutile and zirconium coal iron ore.
He sold out.
After all those years in nick it's not really surprising.
From terrorist to darling of the establishment overnight.
If he'd stayed true to his promises there would be no way the Clintons etc of this world would have been keen to be seen at his funeral.
From revolutionary to media pop star at the turn of a key.
The blacks can now catch the bus but they still work for the same boss.
Worse conditions lower pay and poorer than ever.

So like I said, if it aint broke don't fix it. Unfortunately the ultra liberal wankpots who hold so much sway in this world don't understand that concept.

You can't still blame Mandela either, he's been dead a long time now, plenty of time for the black elite to reform. They won't of course because at the end of the day, they hold about as much care and respect of black South Africans as they accused the white man of during apartheid.

Like I've always said, replace one draconian regime, you normally get another one thats worse, particularly in Africa. It's like the proverbial 'giving the lunatics the keys to the asylum'.

[Rolluplostinspace]

White South Africans only view Mandela as a hero while the rest of blacks are viewed as criminals, vagabonds, thieves and so forth.
Mandela did ok out of it.

[Trapper John]

White South Africans only view Mandela as a hero while the rest of blacks are viewed as criminals, vagabonds, thieves and so forth.
Mandela did ok out of it.

And the ANC still are at the expense of the ordinary black south African, wonder why the white liberal who spent so much time protesting and trying to dismantle white south Africa is silent now?

[Trapper John]

For an example of how the Liberal uptopia of a black run south Africa is working out, take a look at a township like Diepsloot.

Unlike the flagship Soweto which has become almost a brand name because of it's prominence during the apartheid struggle and has seen investment and mass improvement for public and worldwide consumption, Diepsloot is a more typical slum township just north of Johannesburg which sees nothing of the same.

An alchol and drug riddled community where law and order barely exists, it has around 15 rapes a day and thats only the reported cases as many don't even bother.

Further to that, 40% of rapes reported are committed against children younger than 15, the worst being a case so awful it brought outrage from all quarters and levels of the country, two little girls, cousins aged two and three who were abducted from their homes, gang raped and their broken bodies dumped in an open sewer, so much for child rape being the sole preserve of the white man eh?

South Africa has more reported rapes amongst it's 52 million people than India, another country with high rape instances, has with it's population of over a billion.

That's the legacy of the white liberal, interfere to effect the change they require, then fuck off to interfere in something else whilst their latest 'success' crashes and burns and hurts more people than the original regime they toppled ever did.

[Red Okktober]

Mrs Thatcher was the best PM this country's ever had. Thank goodness she was at number 10, and not you canny, otherwise this country would already be a festering third world shithole overrun with far more immigrants than we already have.

She said if 10,000 boat people were given council houses ahead of indigenous Brits on the waiting list, there would be riots. How times have changed, we now just roll over and accept it. She was right to be firm at the time.

In any case, they were eventually let in. Also, British merchant ships picked up tens of thousands of them and took them to the then British colony of Hong Kong. So what's your problem?

Who's next on your anti-tory list canny - do you have any dirt on William Pitt the Younger or the Earl of Bute?